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I think it’s hard to tell how well this team will shoot based on that sample size and people that have already determined that this team can’t shoot we’re just waiting for the first opportunity to complain about this team. Their mind has been made up before the team has played a game. That’s just ridiculous.
If you see it that way fine, I’m looking for us to “look” different. Kinda like when Cignetti took over and IU football looked different.
 
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If you see it that way fine, I’m looking for us to “look” different. Kinda like when Cignetti took over and IU football looked different.
I’m looking for that too. It’s not happening this year. I’m excited to watch this team play and hoping for a successful season anyway.

The original argument is getting off track. A group of posters in this thread have decided that this team can’t shoot. After watching a glorified practice for 12 minutes. I think that’s a little early to be jumping to conclusions like that. I stand by that.
 
I’m looking for that too. It’s not happening this year. I’m excited to watch this team play and hoping for a successful season anyway.

The original argument is getting off track. A group of posters in this thread have decided that this team can’t shoot. After watching a glorified practice for 12 minutes. I think that’s a little early to be jumping to conclusions like that. I stand by that.
I get it and I’m one that said we still can’t shoot. Which I think was a major concern with who we brought in. I hope we have a great season but I don’t see it happening under Woody
 
I’m looking for that too. It’s not happening this year. I’m excited to watch this team play and hoping for a successful season anyway.

The original argument is getting off track. A group of posters in this thread have decided that this team can’t shoot. After watching a glorified practice for 12 minutes. I think that’s a little early to be jumping to conclusions like that. I stand by that.
My concern isn’t whether or not we’ll be able to make the outside shots we end up creating… I think we’ll knock down a better percentage than last year.

My concern is even if we do hit at a decent clip, like we did TJDs senior year… we still won’t be good enough offensively with this style of offense, to be a contending team.

Just 12 minutes, Im sure Woody didn’t run any plays or anything. But I suspect, and worry, that what we saw is our base offense.

And our talent level will allow us to be solid with it. And we’ll get a “I told you all so” from Woodson when we have the 30-40 ish ranked offense. Better than 100 or so which is what his bad teams have been. But not Good enough to contend for much of anything.
 
My concern isn’t whether or not we’ll be able to make the outside shots we end up creating… I think we’ll knock down a better percentage than last year.

My concern is even if we do hit at a decent clip, like we did TJDs senior year… we still won’t be good enough offensively with this style of offense, to be a contending team.

Just 12 minutes, Im sure Woody didn’t run any plays or anything. But I suspect, and worry, that what we saw is our base offense.

And our talent level will allow us to be solid with it. And we’ll get a “I told you all so” from Woodson when we have the 30-40 ish ranked offense. Better than 100 or so which is what his bad teams have been. But not Good enough to contend for much of anything.
Last season was a dumpster fire, no doubt. I, like many others thought it was bad enough for Woodson to get the boot. Woodson leaned on the excuses of lack of talent at the guard position. As the head coach it is his job to bring in guard talent.

This team has lots of talent and that’s obvious. There are no excuses left for Woodson. The pressure is on. This team made the AP preseason poll. They’ve been picked to finish second in the conference. Andy Katz picked them as his dark horse final four team.

This team has to play at a high level and contend for Woodson to keep his job. I sure as hell hope that we’re not going to dump it in the post and stand around this year. I hope we take and make more 3s. I hope we push the pace. I don’t know if we will or not.

I’m not gonna let the scrimmage at Hoosier hysteria determine my thoughts about this team or the way it’s being coached. I wanna see them play some games first. I’d like to see them against some tough competition in the Bahamas to see what the team will look like this season.
 
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Last season was a dumpster fire, no doubt. I, like many others thought it was bad enough for Woodson to get the boot. Woodson leaned on the excuses of lack of talent at the guard position. As the head coach it is his job to bring in guard talent.

This team has lots of talent and that’s obvious. There are no excuses left for Woodson. The pressure is on. This team made the AP preseason poll. They’ve been picked to finish second in the conference. Andy Katz picked them as his dark horse final four team.

This team has to play at a high level and contend for Woodson to keep his job. I sure as hell hope that we’re not going to dump it in the post and stand around this year. I hope we take and make more 3s. I hope we push the pace. I don’t know if we will or not.

I’m not gonna let the scrimmage at Hoosier hysteria determine my thoughts about this team or the way it’s being coached. I wanna see them play some games first. I’d like to see them against some tough competition in the Bahamas to see what the team will look like this season.
Agreed. Gotta see them in games. Just a bummer to not see really anything different stylistically in the scrimmage.
 
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We need a Coaching hire for the basketball program like Dolson did for Football program!
It’s time to trade in the old truck for a new one.
 
No kidding. I’m just not ready to decide that this team can’t shoot yet based on one inter squad scrimmage. That just proves you’re a chronic complainer and have already made up your mind about the team before the season even started.
Fletcher Loyer was 6-17 and Braden Smith 6-18 in their final intra-squad scrimmage, according to Nathan Baird. ... can't shoot either!
 
Fletcher Loyer was 6-17 and Braden Smith 6-18 in their final intra-squad scrimmage, according to Nathan Baird. ... can't shoot either!
I think Loyer is in for a tough year. Gonna be difficult for him to find open shots this year.
 
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Yeah, same exact team right? The discussion has been about this teams shooting ability in case you missed it.
To be fair he promised Mullins and his family a new offense. Looks like they were correct in not believing him.
 
We need a Coaching hire for the basketball program like Dolson did for Football program!
It’s time to trade in the old truck for a new one.
Happiness in life is proportional to how you post here. If you always say everything will come up roses, and that we are awesome, you are happiest in life. If you think IU is a dumpster fire, obviously you are miserable.
 
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^^^this, just 12 minutes but they ran what they will run during the season. Still looks like no shooting and no movement away from the ball.
This has always been my concern with the offense. You look at teams like UConn and Purdue and those guys are pressing hard to create chaos off the ball. That generates defensive switches, which can help forge passing lanes that eventually opens up driving lanes and/or open looks at baskets. The ball tends to stick in each players hands as opposed to speeding up the defensive positioning using continual crisp ball movement.

It's a small sample size and it's a meaningless scrimmage so I certainly won't vilify CMW based on H.H. performance.....but it felt like a team going through the motions. Personally, I think you need to practice like you play.
 
This has always been my concern with the offense. You look at teams like UConn and Purdue and those guys are pressing hard to create chaos off the ball. That generates defensive switches, which can help forge passing lanes that eventually opens up driving lanes and/or open looks at baskets. The ball tends to stick in each players hands as opposed to speeding up the defensive positioning using continual crisp ball movement.

It's a small sample size and it's a meaningless scrimmage so I certainly won't vilify CMW based on H.H. performance.....but it felt like a team going through the motions. Personally, I think you need to practice like you play.
Thank you! Has Woodson ever mentioned anything about toughness?
 
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Hey, just out of curiosity, how many “actual” formal practices have they had? Just spitballing here but maybe they haven’t had a lot of time to work on the offense? Seems like I heard woody say that he wants to set the defense side first and then the offense
 
Hey, just out of curiosity, how many “actual” formal practices have they had? Just spitballing here but maybe they haven’t had a lot of time to work on the offense? Seems like I heard woody say that he wants to set the defense side first and then the offense
Have they worked on shooting?
 
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I would imagine on their own but again, in an actual formal practice? No since they were just allowed to start having them…..hey, maybe they can’t shoot, maybe this will be the worst shooting team in the history of the game, so? I’m still gonna follow them just won’t like it
 
Fletcher Loyer was 6-17 and Braden Smith 6-18 in their final intra-squad scrimmage, according to Nathan Baird. ... can't shoot either!
2023-24 History says: Loyer 44.4%, Smith 43.1%, Heide 45% and Colvin 41.4%. Returning team % is 44%! Opponents shot=31.5% (281m, 893a).
IU last year: 32.4%, with new players history: 33.4%! Opponents shot= 34.3% (284m, 829a)
One of the above teams accomplished those stats against a top 5 schedule, one did not!
History is a indication of what players are capable of and what one might expect!
Intra-squad scrimmages tell us very little about either team. Both teams will have growing pains. Purdue will have to grow up quick because of their tough non-conference schedule. IU has more of a cushion, with soft schedule!
 
2023-24 History says: Loyer 44.4%, Smith 43.1%, Heide 45% and Colvin 41.4%. Returning team % is 44%! Opponents shot=31.5% (281m, 893a).
IU last year: 32.4%, with new players history: 33.4%! Opponents shot= 34.3% (284m, 829a)
One of the above teams accomplished those stats against a top 5 schedule, one did not!
History is a indication of what players are capable of and what one might expect!
Intra-squad scrimmages tell us very little about either team. Both teams will have growing pains. Purdue will have to grow up quick because of their tough non-conference schedule. IU has more of a cushion, with soft schedule!
No one cares.
 
2023-24 History says: Loyer 44.4%, Smith 43.1%, Heide 45% and Colvin 41.4%. Returning team % is 44%! Opponents shot=31.5% (281m, 893a).
IU last year: 32.4%, with new players history: 33.4%! Opponents shot= 34.3% (284m, 829a)
One of the above teams accomplished those stats against a top 5 schedule, one did not!
History is a indication of what players are capable of and what one might expect!
Intra-squad scrimmages tell us very little about either team. Both teams will have growing pains. Purdue will have to grow up quick because of their tough non-conference schedule. IU has more of a cushion, with soft schedule!
calm down Martha, my point was that even good shooters can have bad games/exhibitions and not to overreact to a 12 minute scrimmage that was a show. But, to your point, one of those teams also "accomplished" those stats with a 2X NPOY who typically drew 2-3 defenders giving them more open looks, and one did not! Braden, Fletch and TKR are all about to find out what it's like to be guarded straight up as a primary scorer/player, and I think they'll find it a lot tougher to do. Wanna bet that both Braden and Fletcher's 3 pt % drop this year?
 
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This has always been my concern with the offense. You look at teams like UConn and Purdue and those guys are pressing hard to create chaos off the ball. That generates defensive switches, which can help forge passing lanes that eventually opens up driving lanes and/or open looks at baskets. The ball tends to stick in each players hands as opposed to speeding up the defensive positioning using continual crisp ball movement.

It's a small sample size and it's a meaningless scrimmage so I certainly won't vilify CMW based on H.H. performance.....but it felt like a team going through the motions. Personally, I think you need to practice like you play.
HH is not a practice. It's a pep rally. No coach is going to be pushing their team to "leave it on the floor" in a midnight madness event. It's a celebration for the fans to generate interest for the season and team.
 
HH is not a practice. It's a pep rally. No coach is going to be pushing their team to "leave it on the floor" in a midnight madness event. It's a celebration for the fans to generate interest for the season and team.
They use anything to push their narrative...
 
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2023-24 History says: Loyer 44.4%, Smith 43.1%, Heide 45% and Colvin 41.4%. Returning team % is 44%! Opponents shot=31.5% (281m, 893a).
IU last year: 32.4%, with new players history: 33.4%! Opponents shot= 34.3% (284m, 829a)
One of the above teams accomplished those stats against a top 5 schedule, one did not!
History is a indication of what players are capable of and what one might expect!
Intra-squad scrimmages tell us very little about either team. Both teams will have growing pains. Purdue will have to grow up quick because of their tough non-conference schedule. IU has more of a cushion, with soft schedule!
The only question that needs answered is how will they play now without Edey. "Historically", they haven't been particularly good without him, or when the other team played them straight up. So your numbers are meaningless at this point.
 
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