Health Insurance - This is Insane
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It’s totally broken
1. Prices
2. Healthcare system
3. Public safety/border
4. Job creation
5. Reduce gov spending
6. Lift SS caps
That is a platform. Ukraine we’re done. Zelensky don’t come back. We’re going to support you at the level of whatever marker. NATO percentage. Whatever. That’s it. No more. And loans not grants. Like everyone else
Indiana...
Insurance company denied payment for life-saving air ambulance, claiming unconscious patient failed to get preapproval
At least this was all fixed.
Insurance company denied payment for life-saving air ambulance, claiming unconscious patient failed to get preapproval
At least this was all fixed.
A.I. denying claims. This is what Elon envisages for the future.
You don’t envision AI being an integral part of this & all facets of life in “the future”?
It seems like it is the Ambulance company that is penalizing them for having insurance.
It’s very common to have different prices for self-pay and insurance paid.
We would do ourselves a lot of favors to stop relying on 3rd party payers for healthcare goods/services.
But we don’t think we would.
Agreed. The nonsensical tweet about California is just that - nonsensical.
I would lawyer up with a friend that’s a lawyer and go to war.
Agreed but the ambulance company is being unreasonable at those amounts. I don’t know any judge that would disagree.It’s very common to have different prices for self-pay and insurance paid.
We would do ourselves a lot of favors to stop relying on 3rd party payers for healthcare goods/services.
But we don’t think we would.
Totally agree. Was merely commenting that it seems like it's the ambulance company that set the different prices.
Stopped using dental insurance for anything other than catastrophic needs for just this reason.
I fully agree. But that kind of delta is not the least bit surprising to me.
Yeah that’s the thing. Many ambulance companies are separate from the hospitals. Take an ambulance. Haven’t gotten your final med bills and the ambulance co has already sued you on their bulk collection docket
Helicopter is really bad. That’s about $40k
Not sure what medic rules are but in my office we charge a flat $80 for uninsured. If I see an insured patient and their copay or allowed charge is > $80 we are committing insurance fraud if we charge the uninsured rate. Healthcare laws and insurance are insane
I ran into a similar situation with my dad and his nursing home, after he died. I won't bore you with the details, but I promptly paid them the out of pocket billing, but when they tried to come back with the nonsense about insurance "allowing" them to bill more I told them to pound sand. They threatened to sue, and turned me (technically my mom) over to collections. Old family friend/attorney wrote them a letter saying he looked forward to seeing them in court and that was the end of it.
Eventually, yes. And it will save us all a lot of money and enrich those who own the capital immensely.
At some point, though:
I’m sure I’m reading this wrong. Wouldn’t you be committing insurance fraud if you billed the insurance company more than your $80 fee for an office visit?
With pharmacy everyone has to be billed U&C even though only uninsured are paying that number.
My situation with my dad's nursing home was bizzaro world. They insisted that that's how things are done, and that if I couldn't understand then maybe that was my problem. That was a mistake. I would have spent the whole estate fighting them if it was necessary.
Good grief…and I thought pharmacy billing was screwed up.
It’s official…we would be infinitely better with no third party payors outside of hospitizations, surgeries, and the like.
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