Stop that. Gard’s numbers have all come in the B1G, right?Gard 207- 112 .649 Cronin 499-232 .683 another former coach big ten ties 483-201 .706 Thad Matta.
Stop that. Gard’s numbers have all come in the B1G, right?Gard 207- 112 .649 Cronin 499-232 .683 another former coach big ten ties 483-201 .706 Thad Matta.
Much longer than that - he was an assistant for Ryan for 23 years, going back to D3 Platteville.He's been there 10 years. … And he's from Wisconsin. He's home.
So in all that time he's never been enticed to leave the state. I don't think he starts now with a rebuild job at IU.Much longer than that - he was an assistant for Ryan for 23 years, going back to D3 Platteville.
I would never say never, but …
Rebuild job? Dusty rebuilt Michigan in one season. With the right coach “rebuilding” is not a big issue.So in all that time he's never been enticed to leave the state. I don't think he starts now with a rebuild job at IU.
Ranking of recruiting classes s/b irrelevant in the hiring process. The results matter. I'm confident Greg Gard's recruiting classes rarely cracked the top 25.Mic Cronin When it comes to recruiting, while he has ties to the region, he hasn't proven to be a masterful recruiter. Out of his 18 recruiting classes between Cincy and UCLA, just three of them cracked the top 25, along with eight sub-top 50 finishes including this cycle's class - which comes in at No. 83 with just one signee.
I think this can be skewed a bit as well. Yes he didn't recruit at a high level at Cincy but it was Cincy. In the past the factors that helped coaches recruit (facilities, tradition, fan support....etc) aren't as important as NIL. I don't know what UCLA is providing in their NIL pool but if Mick has IU NIL money to go around?Mic Cronin When it comes to recruiting, while he has ties to the region, he hasn't proven to be a masterful recruiter. Out of his 18 recruiting classes between Cincy and UCLA, just three of them cracked the top 25, along with eight sub-top 50 finishes including this cycle's class - which comes in at No. 83 with just one signee.
Prolly cause he beats our ass every year! Hire him.I’m not sure why but, I automatically root against Wisconsin since Gard has become the Coach. Just something about him turns me off.
Soooo you’re saying he’s usually IN the tournament? Pretty hard to win it sitting at home like we have become accustomed to.Looking at Gard's NCAA Tournament history....not that impressive. He has a 6-6 record, with half of his losses coming to lower-seeded teams.
2015–16 Season:
2016–17 Season:
- Seed: No. 7
- First Round: Defeated No. 10 seed Pittsburgh, 47–43.
- Second Round: Defeated No. 2 seed Xavier, 66–63, on a buzzer-beater by Bronson Koenig.
- Sweet Sixteen: Lost to No. 6 seed Notre Dame, 61–56.
2018–19 Season:
- Seed: No. 8
- First Round: Defeated No. 9 seed Virginia Tech, 84–74.
- Second Round: Upset No. 1 seed and defending national champion Villanova, 65–62.
- Sweet Sixteen: Lost to No. 4 seed Florida, 84–83, in overtime on a last-second shot.
2020–21 Season:
- Seed: No. 5
- First Round: Upset by No. 12 seed Oregon, 72–54.
2021–22 Season:
- Seed: No. 9
- First Round: Defeated No. 8 seed North Carolina, 85–62.
- Second Round: Lost to No. 1 seed and eventual national champion Baylor, 76–63.
2023–24 Season:
- Seed: No. 3
- First Round: Defeated No. 14 seed Colgate, 67–60.
- Second Round: Upset by No. 11 seed Iowa State, 54–49.
- Seed: No. 5
- First Round: Upset by No. 12 seed James Madison, 72–61.
I think Gard is a average coach. I don't see a great recruiter or a great coach since Bo Ryan left the program has dipped.Ranking of recruiting classes s/b irrelevant in the hiring process. The results matter. I'm confident Greg Gard's recruiting classes rarely cracked the top 25.
the difference is Gard wins with less talent. If he had Sam Dekker, he'd win more.Yes Gard is 207-112 .649 in big ten Matta was 337-123 .733 Cronin is 19-8 .704 first year in the big ten was .687 in the Pac 10 overall 134-61 .687 at UCLA.
Age 54 Greg Gard 6-6 in the tournament 2 big ten titles.
Age 57 Thad Matta 24-13 in the tournament 5 big ten titles 4 big ten tournament titles 2 final four.
Age 53 Mic Cronin 15-14 in the tournament 1 pac 10 regular season championship 1 final four.
Matta is not the same since he had to step away for his health. I'd pass on him at this point.the difference is Gard wins with less talent. If he had Sam Dekker, he'd win more.
I don't dislike Matta- I think he is a very good coach. My only concern with Matta is his health and whether he has "lost a step".