Gonzaga…need to get them on the pre conf schedule

[B1G_Fan]

Yes, that's where you're wrong, everybody wants it to be 1987 and nobody wants less

That sounds like what you want. I want to get back to being a perineal tournament team that has a shot to make a deep run every couple years.

 

[go_iu]

They played the hardest non-conference schedule by a mile last year. Where on Earth are you getting that they don't play anybody for 6 months?

Because, and I'm going to assume you are correct in your assessment of "They played the hardest non-conference schedule by a mile last year" Yes, then, they don't play anybody for 6 months until they go undefeated in their shitshow for half a year, and you wonder why they choke?

 

[HoosierTim]

Well, they're not in a P5 conference genius, please pick up a textbook or something

You’re acting like it’s Gonzaga who is refusing to join a P5 conference. It’s quite literally the opposite.

 

[B1G_Fan]

Well, they're not in a P5 conference genius, please pick up a textbook or something

I can’t tell if you are drunk, or just a moron.

No shit they aren’t in a P5, dumbass. That’s why I asked what P5 would take them for basketball only. There is no financial upside for a P5 conference to take them.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

Hell, the WCC might even be better than the ACC this year.

I might agree with that.

 

[go_iu]

Because, and I'm going to assume you are correct in your assessment of "They played the hardest non-conference schedule by a mile last year" Yes, then, they don't play anybody for 6 months until they go undefeated in their shitshow for half a year, and you wonder why they choke?

Maybe we just have different opinions on how bball works. My thoughts and things th

Culturally they fit in the Big east but that wouldn’t work.

I don't know where they fit anywhere, but certainly not in the B10 or Big East, shouldn't we take that as they're just right there where they belong

 

[.Gerdis]

They played the hardest non-conference schedule by a mile last year. Where on Earth are you getting that they don't play anybody for 6 months?

It’s actually seven months. April-October.

 

[HoosierTim]

I don't know where they fit anywhere, but certainly not in the B10 or Big East, shouldn't we take that as they're just right there where they belong

Big East makes the most sense. The original Big East split and ultimately disbanded when the schools with FBS football programs bolted for better conferences. The new Big East is compromised of smaller Catholic/Jesuit schools without FBS football programs and still maintains a basketball first mantra (which is rare). Gonzaga being a small Catholic school without a football program makes some sense if you’re the Big East. They extended all the way out to Omaha to add Creighton.

 

[go_iu]

I can’t tell if you are drunk, or just a moron.

No shit they aren’t in a P5, dumbass. That’s why I asked what P5 would take them for basketball only. There is no financial upside for a P5 conference to take them.

If they want to play with the big boys, I think the PAC-10 would take them, and that's what I said. BTW, pussy

Agree.

Quietly find myself rooting for Gonzaga when it doesn't impact IU which for the last 5 or 6 years has been never. Gonzaga would have won every major conference this year just as they would have last year. They're not only the most talented team in the country this year, but also one of the best coached teams in the country.

And you are correct about the PAC-12. Gonzaga brings nothing to the table for the PAC-12 nor do they have a football team. PAC-12 would shoot their request down before it was even formally written.

Maybe, you need to self examine I'd cheer for Purdue to cut down the nets over Gonzaga

 

[B1G_Fan]

If they want to play with the big boys, I think the PAC-10 would take them, and that's what I said. BTW, pussy

The Pac-12 wouldn't take them. Only a moron would think so.

 

[go_iu]

Big East makes the most sense. The original Big East split and ultimately disbanded when the schools with FBS football programs bolted for better conferences. The new Big East is compromised of smaller Catholic/Jesuit schools without FBS football programs and still maintains a basketball first mantra (which is rare). Gonzaga being a small Catholic school without a football program makes some sense if you’re the Big East. They extended all the way out to Omaha to add Creighton.

They'd be like the east river in the big east, I like what the Big East did, they'd pollute it, and they'd probably get the shit kicked out of them as soon as they were playing against not boys club

 

[Coach Geez]

If they want to play with the big boys, I think the PAC-10 would take them, and that's what I said. BTW, pussy

The only way anybody would continue to operate under that premise is if that didn't understand simple business and finance, which for you, may be an actual issue.

Gonzaga's basketball program generates about $12million in revenue a year but due to large overhead, no big TV deal, etc only profits between $3-4mil/yr. That's tough considering Gonzaga has one of the best basketball programs in the country. With no football program, it is their single largest source of revenue stream from any one athletic program and likely isn't enough to fund the rest of Gonzaga's 15 other men's and women's athletic programs.

Washington State, who easily has the smallest athletic department in the PAC 12, still generated over $70mil in revenue during the last cycle and their football program alone generated $45 million while only paying out $22 million in expenses.

Again, why on Earth would the rest of the PAC 12 members invite a school whose athletic revenue stream is 5-6x smaller than any other school in the conference? How are the rest of the member schools supposed to split a revenue share equally with another school that is nothing but dead weight?

 

[elijawon]

Define choke…

In their last 6 tournaments, they have 2 Runner Ups, 2 Elite 8s, and two Sweet 16s. We would absolutely kill for a run like that.

I guess choke means not winning the championship. So can we say they partially choked then?🙂

 

[go_iu]

That sounds like what you want. I want to get back to being a perineal tournament team that has a shot to make a deep run every couple years.

It's a true revelation on the program that you don't even know what you are asking for. It's BIG10 championship every year, then we go fishing. I'm sorry you're too young to expect that, but that's what we do

 

[B1G_Fan]

It's a true revelation on the program that you don't even know what you are asking for. It's BIG10 championship every year, then we go fishing. I'm sorry you're too young to expect that, but that's what we do

That’s moronic to expect that in 2022. You are the perfect example of an IU fan living in the past. It’s been 35 years since we last won the NC. If that’s still your expectation, then yes, you are delusional.

 

[Paterfamilias]

Over the next 10 years, would you take:

Round of 32
Round of 32
Round of 32
Elite 8
Sweet 16
Runner Up
Sweet 16
Elite 8
Runner Up
Enter the tournament as the #1 overall seed?


I would take that in a heartbeat. This isn't 1987.

I'm not going to crap on them too bad, because they have had great success and IU obviously hasn't since Gonzaga's emergence on the scene.

That said, since their first high seed back in 03 or 04, they are 3-10 vs Top 4 seeds in the tournament. They've only beaten #3 Utah, #4 W. Virginia and #4 Florida St., so they've never yet taken down a #1 or #2 seed.

Sure they've advanced, but they regularly have the advantage of an easy path due to the high seeding every year, which like it or not is a function of not playing in a real conference.

People can say that they've proved themselves over and over again, but really who have they beaten? I know I'll be betting against them again this year as soon as they bump into another top team.

 

[B1G_Fan]

I'm not going to crap on them too bad, because they have had great success and IU obviously hasn't since Gonzaga's emergence on the scene.

That said, since their first high seed back in 03 or 04, they are 3-10 vs Top 4 seeds in the tournament. They've only beaten #3 Utah, #3 W. Virginia and #4 Florida St., so they've never yet taken down a #1 or #2 seed.

Sure they've advanced, but they regularly have the advantage of an easy path due to the high seeding every year, which like it or not is a function of not playing in a real conference.

People can say that they've proved themselves over and over again, but really who have they beaten? I know I'll be betting against them again this year as soon as they bump into another top team.

I would counter that with them just recently becoming a recruiting powerhouse. No doubt that for awhile Gonzaga was overrated. They now get elite talent. The last 6 years their tournament history has been very impressive. I have them winning it all this year, but we will see.

 

[go_iu]

That’s moronic to expect that in 2022. You are the perfect example of an IU fan living in the past. It’s been 35 years since we last won the NC. If that’s still your expectation, then yes, you are delusional.

It's getting back to that, and that's where it should be. It's delusional to pay a coach top 10 money when you don't expect top 10 results. Hmm .. why do we do that, because we're all delusional and forgot we have 5 NC's and probably, barring injuries 7 or 8?

 

[B1G_Fan]

It's getting back to that, and that's where it should be. It's delusional to pay a coach top 10 money when you don't expect top 10 results. Hmm .. why do we do that, because we're all delusional and forgot we have 5 NC's and probably, barring injuries 7 or 8?

Lol Gonzaga doesn’t have top 10 results? Those are the results you said weren’t good enough.