Give me "liberty" or...

[cosmickid]

So around 40 police officers in San Francisco failed to meet the Nov 1 deadline for all city employees to be vaccinated. One of them was 17 yr vet Jack Nyce who apparently joined the SFPD after a stint in the US Army. Now unless he was just deathly afraid of needles and left the Army over the roughshod way the Army administers vaccines, it's safe to say that over the course of his Army days he was subject to numerous inoculations. Same thing likely happened over the course of his 17 yr LEO career. So it's safe to say that his refusal to get the covid vaccine was based on some other reason, rather than just a legitimate medical concern...

Someone or something he believed caused Nyce to believe that he was better off not getting the vax. To the point that he was ready to lose his job over his refusal to get the vax. In fact he had been on 30 day paid administrative leave and would have been terminated within the next week or two. But on Nov 2 he tested positive and on Nov 6 he died, at least the 717th LEO to die of covid since March 2020. Covid has been the leading cause of death of police officers for the past 2 yrs, and yet for some reason officers who would never even entertain the thought of going into a gunfight unarmed are refusing to get vaccinated against the disease that has killed more of them than any other factor in the past 2 yrs. I'm estimating the total and it may have surpassed 717, since this CBS report dates back to Oct 6...

COVID is leading cause of death among police officers

More than 700 officers have died since the start of the pandemic.

www.cbsnews.com

I just don't get it... Science and every intelligent person knows that the vaccine has saved millions of lives worldwide, yet somehow you'd rather listen to idiots (including vaccinated ones on Fox) who urge you not to get the vax because it's dangerous? So you decide that you'll take your chances with the stupids, and you die FOUR DAYS after finding out you're infected?

Exactly how stupid do you have to be to be one of the 40 other holdouts in SFPD, and continue to think the vax is dangerous but Covid isn't? Maybe we're better off that people that stupid will no longer have guns and a badge...

California officer dies after testing positive for COVID-19 and missing vaccine deadline

A police officer who was placed on leave for missing the city of San Francisco’s deadline to be vaccinated has died after contracting COVID-19.

www.yahoo.com

 

[mushroomgod_1]

So around 40 police officers in San Francisco failed to meet the Nov 1 deadline for all city employees to be vaccinated. One of them was 17 yr vet Jack Nyce who apparently joined the SFPD after a stint in the US Army. Now unless he was just deathly afraid of needles and left the Army over the roughshod way the Army administers vaccines, it's safe to say that over the course of his Army days he was subject to numerous inoculations. Same thing likely happened over the course of his 17 yr LEO career. So it's safe to say that his refusal to get the covid vaccine was based on some other reason, rather than just a legitimate medical concern...

Someone or something he believed caused Nyce to believe that he was better off not getting the vax. To the point that he was ready to lose his job over his refusal to get the vax. In fact he had been on 30 day paid administrative leave and would have been terminated within the next week or two. But on Nov 2 he tested positive and on Nov 6 he died, at least the 717th LEO to die of covid since March 2020. Covid has been the leading cause of death of police officers for the past 2 yrs, and yet for some reason officers who would never even entertain the thought of going into a gunfight unarmed are refusing to get vaccinated against the disease that has killed more of them than any other factor in the past 2 yrs. I'm estimating the total and it may have surpassed 717, since this CBS report dates back to Oct 6...

COVID is leading cause of death among police officers

More than 700 officers have died since the start of the pandemic.

www.cbsnews.com

I just don't get it... Science and every intelligent person knows that the vaccine has saved millions of lives worldwide, yet somehow you'd rather listen to idiots (including vaccinated ones on Fox) who urge you not to get the vax because it's dangerous? So you decide that you'll take your chances with the stupids, and you die FOUR DAYS after finding out you're infected?

Exactly how stupid do you have to be to be one of the 40 other holdouts in SFPD, and continue to think the vax is dangerous but Covid isn't? Maybe we're better off that people that stupid will no longer have guns and a badge...

California officer dies after testing positive for COVID-19 and missing vaccine deadline

A police officer who was placed on leave for missing the city of San Francisco’s deadline to be vaccinated has died after contracting COVID-19.

www.yahoo.com

Leading causes of death for police: 1. COVID 2. Democrats

 

[hoosboot]

So around 40 police officers in San Francisco failed to meet the Nov 1 deadline for all city employees to be vaccinated. One of them was 17 yr vet Jack Nyce who apparently joined the SFPD after a stint in the US Army. Now unless he was just deathly afraid of needles and left the Army over the roughshod way the Army administers vaccines, it's safe to say that over the course of his Army days he was subject to numerous inoculations. Same thing likely happened over the course of his 17 yr LEO career. So it's safe to say that his refusal to get the covid vaccine was based on some other reason, rather than just a legitimate medical concern...

Someone or something he believed caused Nyce to believe that he was better off not getting the vax. To the point that he was ready to lose his job over his refusal to get the vax. In fact he had been on 30 day paid administrative leave and would have been terminated within the next week or two. But on Nov 2 he tested positive and on Nov 6 he died, at least the 717th LEO to die of covid since March 2020. Covid has been the leading cause of death of police officers for the past 2 yrs, and yet for some reason officers who would never even entertain the thought of going into a gunfight unarmed are refusing to get vaccinated against the disease that has killed more of them than any other factor in the past 2 yrs. I'm estimating the total and it may have surpassed 717, since this CBS report dates back to Oct 6...

COVID is leading cause of death among police officers

More than 700 officers have died since the start of the pandemic.

www.cbsnews.com

I just don't get it... Science and every intelligent person knows that the vaccine has saved millions of lives worldwide, yet somehow you'd rather listen to idiots (including vaccinated ones on Fox) who urge you not to get the vax because it's dangerous? So you decide that you'll take your chances with the stupids, and you die FOUR DAYS after finding out you're infected?

Exactly how stupid do you have to be to be one of the 40 other holdouts in SFPD, and continue to think the vax is dangerous but Covid isn't? Maybe we're better off that people that stupid will no longer have guns and a badge...

California officer dies after testing positive for COVID-19 and missing vaccine deadline

A police officer who was placed on leave for missing the city of San Francisco’s deadline to be vaccinated has died after contracting COVID-19.

www.yahoo.com

I understand your frustration about vaccine misinformation, but I'm not comfortable with the framing of Officer Nyce as "stupid". His death is a tragedy and, while I'm angry about the misinformation that has contributed to deaths like his, the overwhelming feeling I have is sadness followed by empathy for his loved ones. Hopefully his death will be a something that moves several of those remaining unvaccinated officers to go get a vaccine so they can continue to do the job they love and be there for their loved ones.

 

[dr.jb]

So around 40 police officers in San Francisco failed to meet the Nov 1 deadline for all city employees to be vaccinated. One of them was 17 yr vet Jack Nyce who apparently joined the SFPD after a stint in the US Army. Now unless he was just deathly afraid of needles and left the Army over the roughshod way the Army administers vaccines, it's safe to say that over the course of his Army days he was subject to numerous inoculations. Same thing likely happened over the course of his 17 yr LEO career. So it's safe to say that his refusal to get the covid vaccine was based on some other reason, rather than just a legitimate medical concern...

Someone or something he believed caused Nyce to believe that he was better off not getting the vax. To the point that he was ready to lose his job over his refusal to get the vax. In fact he had been on 30 day paid administrative leave and would have been terminated within the next week or two. But on Nov 2 he tested positive and on Nov 6 he died, at least the 717th LEO to die of covid since March 2020. Covid has been the leading cause of death of police officers for the past 2 yrs, and yet for some reason officers who would never even entertain the thought of going into a gunfight unarmed are refusing to get vaccinated against the disease that has killed more of them than any other factor in the past 2 yrs. I'm estimating the total and it may have surpassed 717, since this CBS report dates back to Oct 6...

COVID is leading cause of death among police officers

More than 700 officers have died since the start of the pandemic.

www.cbsnews.com

I just don't get it... Science and every intelligent person knows that the vaccine has saved millions of lives worldwide, yet somehow you'd rather listen to idiots (including vaccinated ones on Fox) who urge you not to get the vax because it's dangerous? So you decide that you'll take your chances with the stupids, and you die FOUR DAYS after finding out you're infected?

Exactly how stupid do you have to be to be one of the 40 other holdouts in SFPD, and continue to think the vax is dangerous but Covid isn't? Maybe we're better off that people that stupid will no longer have guns and a badge...

California officer dies after testing positive for COVID-19 and missing vaccine deadline

A police officer who was placed on leave for missing the city of San Francisco’s deadline to be vaccinated has died after contracting COVID-19.

www.yahoo.com

maybe he was just tired of the goverment making decisions for him?

 

[bawlmer]

maybe he was just tired of the goverment making decisions for him?

The government didn't make his decision for him. It made decisions about who it would employ. That's a big difference.

 

[dr.jb]

The government didn't make his decision for him. It made decisions about who it would employ. That's a big difference.

coercion can be a very effective weapon

 

[bawlmer]

coercion can be a very effective weapon

Responsibility seems to be a high bar.

 

[dr.jb]

and truth has become very malleable

 

[UncleMark]

coercion can be a very effective weapon

My employers coerced me in numerous ways my entire working career.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

So around 40 police officers in San Francisco failed to meet the Nov 1 deadline for all city employees to be vaccinated. One of them was 17 yr vet Jack Nyce who apparently joined the SFPD after a stint in the US Army. Now unless he was just deathly afraid of needles and left the Army over the roughshod way the Army administers vaccines, it's safe to say that over the course of his Army days he was subject to numerous inoculations. Same thing likely happened over the course of his 17 yr LEO career. So it's safe to say that his refusal to get the covid vaccine was based on some other reason, rather than just a legitimate medical concern...

Someone or something he believed caused Nyce to believe that he was better off not getting the vax. To the point that he was ready to lose his job over his refusal to get the vax. In fact he had been on 30 day paid administrative leave and would have been terminated within the next week or two. But on Nov 2 he tested positive and on Nov 6 he died, at least the 717th LEO to die of covid since March 2020. Covid has been the leading cause of death of police officers for the past 2 yrs, and yet for some reason officers who would never even entertain the thought of going into a gunfight unarmed are refusing to get vaccinated against the disease that has killed more of them than any other factor in the past 2 yrs. I'm estimating the total and it may have surpassed 717, since this CBS report dates back to Oct 6...

COVID is leading cause of death among police officers

More than 700 officers have died since the start of the pandemic.

www.cbsnews.com

I just don't get it... Science and every intelligent person knows that the vaccine has saved millions of lives worldwide, yet somehow you'd rather listen to idiots (including vaccinated ones on Fox) who urge you not to get the vax because it's dangerous? So you decide that you'll take your chances with the stupids, and you die FOUR DAYS after finding out you're infected?

Exactly how stupid do you have to be to be one of the 40 other holdouts in SFPD, and continue to think the vax is dangerous but Covid isn't? Maybe we're better off that people that stupid will no longer have guns and a badge...

California officer dies after testing positive for COVID-19 and missing vaccine deadline

A police officer who was placed on leave for missing the city of San Francisco’s deadline to be vaccinated has died after contracting COVID-19.

www.yahoo.com

A work acquaintance told me today that his doctor had informed him that the vaccine isn't really a vaccine, but some form of population control and that "75% of his patients" were hospitalized 6 months after the vaccine with strokes.

 

[T.M.P.]

every intelligent person knows

Many police officers are not gifted with intelligence. So there's your answer.

 

[T.M.P.]

Leading causes of death for police: 1. COVID 2. Democrats

You need to either get out more or head butt a railroad spike ..

 

[Crayfish57]

You need to either get out more or head butt a railroad spike ..

That explains you

 

[DrHoops]

maybe he was just tired of the goverment making decisions for him?

But he did that every day of his working life, no?

 

[sglowrider]

But he did that every day of his working life, no?

Feck speed limits. Feck having laws telling me I cant sex with minors! Let me shoot a black guy when I feel like it!!!
Feck the Gov't! Am tired of the Gov't telling me what I can and can't do! Impinging on my liberty.

No more tyrannical bullcrap! Freedom baybee!!!

Its amazing how much nonsense there is still floating around here on Covid.

If an employer pays my salary (esp tax-funded jobs), I think they are entitled to a few perks like making sure I get jabbed to ensure I don't pass around the wretched virus to the taxpayers -- unless I feel supremely entitled or suffering from arrested development and will stomp around like some entitled over-grown teenager.
The dude isn't entitled to the job.

'To Protect and Serve' it says on his badge. Not: 'To Infect and Serve.'

Quit then if he feels so strongly about it.

Who knew that the margins were so fine -- the distance between tyranny and freedom is 2mm or the thickness of a feckin' mask?

20 months on and people are still so dumb about things, to borrow a phrase from an esteemed member of the WC. Mind-boggling!!

When politics infringes on healthcare/science then society is in deep shit -- especially when there have been copious amounts of death/destruction and evidence everywhere and yet... it's just embarrassing.

 

[dr.jb]

here's a funny.....


ABBOTT & COSTELLO’S ‘WHO’S BEEN VACCINATED?’

Bud: ‘You can’t come in here!’
Lou: ‘Why not?’
Bud: ‘Well because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But I’m not sick.’
Bud: ‘It doesn’t matter.’
Lou: ‘Well, why does that guy get to go in?’
Bud: ‘Because he’s vaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But he’s sick!’
Bud: ‘It’s alright. Everyone in here is vaccinated.’
Lou: ‘Wait a minute. Are you saying everyone in there is vaccinated?’
Bud: ‘Yes.’
Lou: ‘So then why can’t I go in there if everyone is vaccinated?’
Bud: ‘Because you’ll make them sick.’
Lou: ‘How will I make them sick if I’m NOT sick and they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘But they can still get sick.’
Lou: ‘So what the heck does the vaccine do?’
Bud: ‘It vaccinates.’
Lou: ‘So vaccinated people can’t spread covid?’
Bud: ‘Oh no. They can spread covid just as easily as an unvaccinated person.’
Lou: ‘I don’t even know what I’m saying anymore. Look. I’m not sick.
Bud: ‘Ok.’
Lou: ‘And the guy you let in IS sick.’
Bud: ‘That’s right.’
Lou: ‘And everybody in there can still get sick even though they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Certainly.’
Lou: ‘So why can’t I go in again?’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘Nevermind. I’ll just put on my mask.’
Bud: ‘That’s fine.’
Lou: ‘Now I can go in?’
Bud: ‘Absolutely not?’
Lou: ‘So the mask is no good anymore.’
Bud: ‘No, it’s still good.’
Lou: ‘But I can’t come in?’
Bud: ‘Correct.’
Lou: ‘Why not?’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But the mask prevents the germs from getting out.’
Bud: ‘Yes, but people can still catch your germs.’
Lou: ‘But they’re all vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Yes, but they can still get sick.’
Lou: ‘But I’m not sick!!’
Bud: ‘You can still get them sick.’
Lou: ‘So then masks don’t work!’
Bud: ‘Masks work quite well.’
Lou: ‘So how in the world can I get vaccinated people sick if I’m not sick and masks work?

 

[Cortez88]

My employers coerced me in numerous ways my entire working career.

I bet they made you wear a shirt to work. Or maybe show up at certain hours. Or maybe they told you that you couldn’t have a few beers over lunch.

 

[Bill4411]

I wonder how American's would handle rationing today like our forebearers did during WW I or WWII? You were pretty restricted to what you could own and use. I really doubt if it would be possible to have a program like this in today's America.

Sacrificing for the Common Good: Rationing in WWII (U.S. National Park Service)

www.nps.gov

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

Leading causes of death for police: 1. COVID 2. Democrats

Dumb

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

maybe he was just tired of the goverment making decisions for him?

You mean like the gop trying to control women's reproduction rights

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

A work acquaintance told me today that his doctor had informed him that the vaccine isn't really a vaccine, but some form of population control and that "75% of his patients" were hospitalized 6 months after the vaccine with strokes.

Can that dr be sued for malpractice since he apparently isnt administering the vaccine correctly

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

here's a funny.....


ABBOTT & COSTELLO’S ‘WHO’S BEEN VACCINATED?’

Bud: ‘You can’t come in here!’
Lou: ‘Why not?’
Bud: ‘Well because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But I’m not sick.’
Bud: ‘It doesn’t matter.’
Lou: ‘Well, why does that guy get to go in?’
Bud: ‘Because he’s vaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But he’s sick!’
Bud: ‘It’s alright. Everyone in here is vaccinated.’
Lou: ‘Wait a minute. Are you saying everyone in there is vaccinated?’
Bud: ‘Yes.’
Lou: ‘So then why can’t I go in there if everyone is vaccinated?’
Bud: ‘Because you’ll make them sick.’
Lou: ‘How will I make them sick if I’m NOT sick and they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘But they can still get sick.’
Lou: ‘So what the heck does the vaccine do?’
Bud: ‘It vaccinates.’
Lou: ‘So vaccinated people can’t spread covid?’
Bud: ‘Oh no. They can spread covid just as easily as an unvaccinated person.’
Lou: ‘I don’t even know what I’m saying anymore. Look. I’m not sick.
Bud: ‘Ok.’
Lou: ‘And the guy you let in IS sick.’
Bud: ‘That’s right.’
Lou: ‘And everybody in there can still get sick even though they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Certainly.’
Lou: ‘So why can’t I go in again?’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘Nevermind. I’ll just put on my mask.’
Bud: ‘That’s fine.’
Lou: ‘Now I can go in?’
Bud: ‘Absolutely not?’
Lou: ‘So the mask is no good anymore.’
Bud: ‘No, it’s still good.’
Lou: ‘But I can’t come in?’
Bud: ‘Correct.’
Lou: ‘Why not?’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But the mask prevents the germs from getting out.’
Bud: ‘Yes, but people can still catch your germs.’
Lou: ‘But they’re all vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Yes, but they can still get sick.’
Lou: ‘But I’m not sick!!’
Bud: ‘You can still get them sick.’
Lou: ‘So then masks don’t work!’
Bud: ‘Masks work quite well.’
Lou: ‘So how in the world can I get vaccinated people sick if I’m not sick and masks work?

It is only funny because you think it has a basis in truth. Vaccinated don't spread it just as easily so the joke makes very little sense

 

[UncleMark]

I bet they made you wear a shirt to work. Or maybe show up at certain hours. Or maybe they told you that you couldn’t have a few beers over lunch.

That last one really pissed me off. My lunch, my choice.

 

[UncleMark]

A work acquaintance told me today that his doctor had informed him that the vaccine isn't really a vaccine, but some form of population control and that "75% of his patients" were hospitalized 6 months after the vaccine with strokes.

So is this work acquaintance a crazed liar, or is it the doctor?

I'm guessing this is a Facebook thing that he's tried to make sound more legit.