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Apologies in advance for the length of this post, but it involves my kid!

Friends, sometimes you have to rethink your positions based on bias or ignorance. I have a freshman daughter who this summer went to a 1 week wrestling camp at her new high school. My wife and I were hesitant to allow her to attend but she was insistent so we said yes. We didn’t realize in that one week she would fall in love with the sport. She’s always been an athlete (not a great one) who’s participated in travel softball and rec soccer. Those two sports allowed her to make friends, learn about teamwork and stoke her competitive spirit.

What I’ve learned about wrestling so far is it’s a much bigger commitment on a personal level. From a time standpoint it’s not much more, but unless you want to continually get your ass kicked and get pinned you’ve got to take it seriously. This kid has gotten better over the year. She didn’t pick up her first win until her third tournament. In fact she’s now beaten three girls who all beat and pinned her the first go around. I couldn’t be more proud of her.

My wife and I were a little concerned how healthy it would be to make weight. From what I’ve heard and seen the days of spitting in a cup and taking ex lax are a thing of the past.

If your kid (girl or boy) is looking for a new sport and maybe could use a little discipline and structure I would highly recommend trying out wrestling.

This year the IHSAA finally approved it and the inangural state tournament has already begun. In fact my kid took 4th place in the Ben Davis sectional and qualified for the Mooresville regional this Friday. I don’t expect her to qualify for state but what a great first year.

I will say of all the years I’ve watched her compete in sports I’ve never been as nervous and engaged as now.
 
Apologies in advance for the length of this post, but it involves my kid!

Friends, sometimes you have to rethink your positions based on bias or ignorance. I have a freshman daughter who this summer went to a 1 week wrestling camp at her new high school. My wife and I were hesitant to allow her to attend but she was insistent so we said yes. We didn’t realize in that one week she would fall in love with the sport. She’s always been an athlete (not a great one) who’s participated in travel softball and rec soccer. Those two sports allowed her to make friends, learn about teamwork and stoke her competitive spirit.

What I’ve learned about wrestling so far is it’s a much bigger commitment on a personal level. From a time standpoint it’s not much more, but unless you want to continually get your ass kicked and get pinned you’ve got to take it seriously. This kid has gotten better over the year. She didn’t pick up her first win until her third tournament. In fact she’s now beaten three girls who all beat and pinned her the first go around. I couldn’t be more proud of her.

My wife and I were a little concerned how healthy it would be to make weight. From what I’ve heard and seen the days of spitting in a cup and taking ex lax are a thing of the past.

If your kid (girl or boy) is looking for a new sport and maybe could use a little discipline and structure I would highly recommend trying out wrestling.

This year the IHSAA finally approved it and the inangural state tournament has already begun. In fact my kid took 4th place in the Ben Davis sectional and qualified for the Mooresville regional this Friday. I don’t expect her to qualify for state but what a great first year.

I will say of all the years I’ve watched her compete in sports I’ve never been as nervous and engaged as now.
Love it!!!
 
I’d like to add one more point that many of you may relate to. My kid has always been a decent student. However once she got to HS, she’s really kicked it up a notch. Her executive functioning , organization and planning have gotten much better. I attribute many of these changes to participating in high school sports. You get the chance to have true mentorship. When you have mentorship/leaders from upperclassmen they truly set the tone and culture for what is expected. Sure they’ve taught her how to play but off the mat they’ve taught her how important her studies are. They all study together before practice and spend free time when possible.

This type of mentorship isn’t really possible in club sports at an early age. I truly am thankful for this experience at the high school level. It embodies what athletics can be for all our kids. And I will add your kid never has to be great at a sport, they just need to set some reasonable goals each and every year.

My middle daughter ran cross country for 4 years. She never made varsity but each year she made personal best times. That was good enough for her and good enough for me!
 
I’d like to add one more point that many of you may relate to. My kid has always been a decent student. However once she got to HS, she’s really kicked it up a notch. Her executive functioning , organization and planning have gotten much better. I attribute many of these changes to participating in high school sports. You get the chance to have true mentorship. When you have mentorship/leaders from upperclassmen they truly set the tone and culture for what is expected. Sure they’ve taught her how to play but off the mat they’ve taught her how important her studies are. They all study together before practice and spend free time when possible.

This type of mentorship isn’t really possible in club sports at an early age. I truly am thankful for this experience at the high school level. It embodies what athletics can be for all our kids. And I will add your kid never has to be great at a sport, they just need to set some reasonable goals each and every year.

My middle daughter ran cross country for 4 years. She never made varsity but each year she made personal best times. That was good enough for her and good enough for me!
Couldn’t agree more. My daughter is entering her last semester of middle school and I’m eyeing high school sports for her. Right now she’s a lacrosse player but we hate labels and I hate seeing her “specialize” so early. The silence from coaches at the high school has been surprising. I feel like we’re just about to ignite this rocket ship and I’m here for it!!!
 
Super cool, Eppy.

Our rule is they have to do something after-school at some point of the year. Oldest ran track, middle was volleyball. My youngest, who's a 6th grader, doesn't have an athletic bone in her body so she has discovered lego club. A teacher gets kids together after school for about 45 minutes and they work on building legos together.

We just want them out of the house and socializing as much as possible. Would I have liked her to try and play something I did in high school like volleyball or basketball, of course. That's not her style though, so I'll live with her being a builder of legos.
 
Couldn’t agree more. My daughter is entering her last semester of middle school and I’m eyeing high school sports for her. Right now she’s a lacrosse player but we hate labels and I hate seeing her “specialize” so early. The silence from coaches at the high school has been surprising. I feel like we’re just about to ignite this rocket ship and I’m here for it!!!

Do they have an IG club at high school?
 
Apologies in advance for the length of this post, but it involves my kid!

Friends, sometimes you have to rethink your positions based on bias or ignorance. I have a freshman daughter who this summer went to a 1 week wrestling camp at her new high school. My wife and I were hesitant to allow her to attend but she was insistent so we said yes. We didn’t realize in that one week she would fall in love with the sport. She’s always been an athlete (not a great one) who’s participated in travel softball and rec soccer. Those two sports allowed her to make friends, learn about teamwork and stoke her competitive spirit.

What I’ve learned about wrestling so far is it’s a much bigger commitment on a personal level. From a time standpoint it’s not much more, but unless you want to continually get your ass kicked and get pinned you’ve got to take it seriously. This kid has gotten better over the year. She didn’t pick up her first win until her third tournament. In fact she’s now beaten three girls who all beat and pinned her the first go around. I couldn’t be more proud of her.

My wife and I were a little concerned how healthy it would be to make weight. From what I’ve heard and seen the days of spitting in a cup and taking ex lax are a thing of the past.

If your kid (girl or boy) is looking for a new sport and maybe could use a little discipline and structure I would highly recommend trying out wrestling.

This year the IHSAA finally approved it and the inangural state tournament has already begun. In fact my kid took 4th place in the Ben Davis sectional and qualified for the Mooresville regional this Friday. I don’t expect her to qualify for state but what a great first year.

I will say of all the years I’ve watched her compete in sports I’ve never been as nervous and engaged as now.


Hope you're doing well Eppy. Sounds like things are tracking in the right direction!
 
Do they have an IG club at high school?
It’s just crazy listening to eppy’s daughter making weight. Last month mind got her period at school. Texts me to come get her. Comes walking out wearing some guys big pants. How’d you get those. I said what happened. Isn’t that a little private. I don’t care.

Okay well I don’t have time for this. Throw extra clothes in your locker. That’s what it’s for. I mean you have a locker right?!

Yeah. I have no clue where it is tho

She’s gone there two years

Eppy’s daughter is making weight climbing the rankings ladder in tournaments
 
It’s just crazy listening to eppy’s daughter making weight. Last month mind got her period at school. Texts me to come get her. Comes walking out wearing some guys big pants. How’d you get those. I said what happened. Isn’t that a little private. I don’t care.

Okay well I don’t have time for this. Throw extra clothes in your locker. That’s what it’s for. I mean you have a locker right?!

Yeah. I have no clue where it is tho

She’s gone there two years

Eppy’s daughter is making weight climbing the rankings ladder in tournaments

I'll be there soon enough.
 
It’s just crazy listening to eppy’s daughter making weight. Last month mind got her period at school. Texts me to come get her. Comes walking out wearing some guys big pants. How’d you get those. I said what happened. Isn’t that a little private. I don’t care.

Okay well I don’t have time for this. Throw extra clothes in your locker. That’s what it’s for. I mean you have a locker right?!

Yeah. I have no clue where it is tho

She’s gone there two years

Eppy’s daughter is making weight climbing the rankings ladder in tournaments
Funny my kids all have said the same about lockers. None of them ever used it. Instead they carried backpacks that literally seemed like they were carrying bricks.

I can relate to the period issue, after all I have three teenage daughters and a wife. There’s a lot I’ve learned and at times I just hide in the mancave and turn on the Hoosiers.
 
Funny my kids all have said the same about lockers. None of them ever used it. Instead they carried backpacks that literally seemed like they were carrying bricks.

I can relate to the period issue, after all I have three teenage daughters and a wife. There’s a lot I’ve learned and at times I just hide in the mancave and turn on the Hoosiers.
Exactly!!! Wtf. She rips a backpack every two months bc it looks like she’s carrying cinder blocks!

When we were in school we were always at our lockers. Our own. Fing with people. Shit my buddy was the center on the football team. He’d say he can’t wait to get to his locker to grab donuts he’s starving. So I’d sneak out and get there first and hide ink pens in all his long John’s.

Then after school I’d find one of the T tops on my car missing. T Tops!!!! Fing right.

Kids today suck
 
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Funny my kids all have said the same about lockers. None of them ever used it. Instead they carried backpacks that literally seemed like they were carrying bricks.

I can relate to the period issue, after all I have three teenage daughters and a wife. There’s a lot I’ve learned and at times I just hide in the mancave and turn on the Hoosiers.

I hope your daughter never figures out sharing lockers with friends. My senior evidently shares lockers with 3 or 4 friends.

Half the time she says she can't remember which locker has what in them. I don't know how many times she's called because she can't find her gym shoes and needs me to bring her a pair.
 
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Apologies in advance for the length of this post, but it involves my kid!

Friends, sometimes you have to rethink your positions based on bias or ignorance. I have a freshman daughter who this summer went to a 1 week wrestling camp at her new high school. My wife and I were hesitant to allow her to attend but she was insistent so we said yes. We didn’t realize in that one week she would fall in love with the sport. She’s always been an athlete (not a great one) who’s participated in travel softball and rec soccer. Those two sports allowed her to make friends, learn about teamwork and stoke her competitive spirit.

What I’ve learned about wrestling so far is it’s a much bigger commitment on a personal level. From a time standpoint it’s not much more, but unless you want to continually get your ass kicked and get pinned you’ve got to take it seriously. This kid has gotten better over the year. She didn’t pick up her first win until her third tournament. In fact she’s now beaten three girls who all beat and pinned her the first go around. I couldn’t be more proud of her.

My wife and I were a little concerned how healthy it would be to make weight. From what I’ve heard and seen the days of spitting in a cup and taking ex lax are a thing of the past.

If your kid (girl or boy) is looking for a new sport and maybe could use a little discipline and structure I would highly recommend trying out wrestling.

This year the IHSAA finally approved it and the inangural state tournament has already begun. In fact my kid took 4th place in the Ben Davis sectional and qualified for the Mooresville regional this Friday. I don’t expect her to qualify for state but what a great first year.

I will say of all the years I’ve watched her compete in sports I’ve never been as nervous and engaged as now.

Eppy, congrats to your daughter's decision to add sports to her lifestyle.

This experience will convince her how important exercise and physical activity along with building friendships are in being healthy both physically and mentally.

As more women transition from the physical activity of housework to business desk jobs, the lessons learned by participating in sports will pay big dividends for them.
 
Eppy, congrats to your daughter's decision to add sports to her lifestyle.

This experience will convince her how important exercise and physical activity along with building friendships are in being healthy both physically and mentally.

As more women transition from the physical activity of housework to business desk jobs, the lessons learned by participating in sports will pay big dividends for them.
And don’t forget hoot when some bitch in the office is out to get her, because with women there’s always some bitch in the office out to get her, she can remind her of her wrestling background and that maybe they can handle their beef another way…. Make her ears touch
 
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Apologies in advance for the length of this post, but it involves my kid!

Friends, sometimes you have to rethink your positions based on bias or ignorance. I have a freshman daughter who this summer went to a 1 week wrestling camp at her new high school. My wife and I were hesitant to allow her to attend but she was insistent so we said yes. We didn’t realize in that one week she would fall in love with the sport. She’s always been an athlete (not a great one) who’s participated in travel softball and rec soccer. Those two sports allowed her to make friends, learn about teamwork and stoke her competitive spirit.

What I’ve learned about wrestling so far is it’s a much bigger commitment on a personal level. From a time standpoint it’s not much more, but unless you want to continually get your ass kicked and get pinned you’ve got to take it seriously. This kid has gotten better over the year. She didn’t pick up her first win until her third tournament. In fact she’s now beaten three girls who all beat and pinned her the first go around. I couldn’t be more proud of her.

My wife and I were a little concerned how healthy it would be to make weight. From what I’ve heard and seen the days of spitting in a cup and taking ex lax are a thing of the past.

If your kid (girl or boy) is looking for a new sport and maybe could use a little discipline and structure I would highly recommend trying out wrestling.

This year the IHSAA finally approved it and the inangural state tournament has already begun. In fact my kid took 4th place in the Ben Davis sectional and qualified for the Mooresville regional this Friday. I don’t expect her to qualify for state but what a great first year.

I will say of all the years I’ve watched her compete in sports I’ve never been as nervous and engaged as now.
Good luck to her. You're a good dad. Now let's say she works her tail off to get good. How would you feel if a boy saying he is a girl comes in and beats her simply because he is a boy?
 
Good luck to her. You're a good dad. Now let's say she works her tail off to get good. How would you feel if a boy saying he is a girl comes in and beats her simply because he is a boy?
Not in Indiana. And not on your watch pastor. That’s why we all want to get home to Indiana. Where America is still great!!!!
 
Hope you're doing well Eppy. Sounds like things are tracking in the right direction!
Doing well thank you! After 17 years of my “sabbatical” as a stay at home dad I’m actually returning to school. I had to declare a major so I picked psychology but I don’t really have a career goal in mind. In fact I’m really just doing it to prove to myself I “Can” do it. The first time I attempted college back in 92’ there was a lot I didn’t know about myself. Only after did I find out I was ADHD and more recently bi-polar. So armed with a better understanding of why I struggle the way I do I’m better prepared to re-attempt college with a new approach. Thanks to medication and some therapy I want to give it another shot.

It’s funny during and after covid I sank into a deep isolation and loneliness. I even stopped visiting the board which is why you guys haven’t seen much of me for a couple 2-3 years. This year I’ve chosen I want to focus on three different areas; purpose, service and belonging. Even if college doesn’t work I can hang my hat on improvement in other areas of my life.

So thanks for asking about me and I hope I can INCREASE my belonging here on the board.
 
Good luck to her. You're a good dad. Now let's say she works her tail off to get good. How would you feel if a boy saying he is a girl comes in and beats her simply because he is a boy?
I’d personally probably be upset, but the battle is really being your best regardless of who you’re battling. Life isn’t always fair but you can only control so much.
 
Apologies in advance for the length of this post, but it involves my kid!

Friends, sometimes you have to rethink your positions based on bias or ignorance. I have a freshman daughter who this summer went to a 1 week wrestling camp at her new high school. My wife and I were hesitant to allow her to attend but she was insistent so we said yes. We didn’t realize in that one week she would fall in love with the sport. She’s always been an athlete (not a great one) who’s participated in travel softball and rec soccer. Those two sports allowed her to make friends, learn about teamwork and stoke her competitive spirit.

What I’ve learned about wrestling so far is it’s a much bigger commitment on a personal level. From a time standpoint it’s not much more, but unless you want to continually get your ass kicked and get pinned you’ve got to take it seriously. This kid has gotten better over the year. She didn’t pick up her first win until her third tournament. In fact she’s now beaten three girls who all beat and pinned her the first go around. I couldn’t be more proud of her.

My wife and I were a little concerned how healthy it would be to make weight. From what I’ve heard and seen the days of spitting in a cup and taking ex lax are a thing of the past.

If your kid (girl or boy) is looking for a new sport and maybe could use a little discipline and structure I would highly recommend trying out wrestling.

This year the IHSAA finally approved it and the inangural state tournament has already begun. In fact my kid took 4th place in the Ben Davis sectional and qualified for the Mooresville regional this Friday. I don’t expect her to qualify for state but what a great first year.

I will say of all the years I’ve watched her compete in sports I’ve never been as nervous and engaged as now.
Indiana (assuming you're here) has really embraced girls wrestling and several HS have built some nice programs.

Its no surprise that 2 out of the 5 girls on the last Olympics team were both from Indiana.

The first ever HS State championship series for Girls is going on right now. Sectionals just completed, Regionals coming next weekend.

There are still a handful that are competing in the boys divisions including a girl who is currently ranked #1 in the boys division and placed 6th last year at boys state which is extremely difficult. Indiana wrestling is still a 1 class sport so there are no divisions. 300+ HS with wrestling programs, only top 16 get to state and place top 6 is a HUGE achievement here.

The other place this is really beneficial is colleges are now creating women's programs at a pretty high rate. This is VERY important for Title IX implications. Title IX has DECIMATED men's wrestling the past 4 or 5 decades due to the rules about equal representation of athletes in college athletics. While the goal of creating more opportunities for women might have been good, colleges did not do this and simply cut men's sports instead. Wrestling was almost always at the top of the chopping block. Hoping the changing tides will lead to some reversals of that and colleges will be able to re-instate some cut programs in the future.
 
Apologies in advance for the length of this post, but it involves my kid!

Friends, sometimes you have to rethink your positions based on bias or ignorance. I have a freshman daughter who this summer went to a 1 week wrestling camp at her new high school. My wife and I were hesitant to allow her to attend but she was insistent so we said yes. We didn’t realize in that one week she would fall in love with the sport. She’s always been an athlete (not a great one) who’s participated in travel softball and rec soccer. Those two sports allowed her to make friends, learn about teamwork and stoke her competitive spirit.

What I’ve learned about wrestling so far is it’s a much bigger commitment on a personal level. From a time standpoint it’s not much more, but unless you want to continually get your ass kicked and get pinned you’ve got to take it seriously. This kid has gotten better over the year. She didn’t pick up her first win until her third tournament. In fact she’s now beaten three girls who all beat and pinned her the first go around. I couldn’t be more proud of her.

My wife and I were a little concerned how healthy it would be to make weight. From what I’ve heard and seen the days of spitting in a cup and taking ex lax are a thing of the past.

If your kid (girl or boy) is looking for a new sport and maybe could use a little discipline and structure I would highly recommend trying out wrestling.

This year the IHSAA finally approved it and the inangural state tournament has already begun. In fact my kid took 4th place in the Ben Davis sectional and qualified for the Mooresville regional this Friday. I don’t expect her to qualify for state but what a great first year.

I will say of all the years I’ve watched her compete in sports I’ve never been as nervous and engaged as now.
I have NO issue with girls wrestling girls. My only concern is with cutting weight, especially since bulimia is such a problem with some girls.
I wish your daughter wrestles her best! We can't ask for more.
 
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Indiana (assuming you're here) has really embraced girls wrestling and several HS have built some nice programs.

Its no surprise that 2 out of the 5 girls on the last Olympics team were both from Indiana.

The first ever HS State championship series for Girls is going on right now. Sectionals just completed, Regionals coming next weekend.

There are still a handful that are competing in the boys divisions including a girl who is currently ranked #1 in the boys division and placed 6th last year at boys state which is extremely difficult. Indiana wrestling is still a 1 class sport so there are no divisions. 300+ HS with wrestling programs, only top 16 get to state and place top 6 is a HUGE achievement here.

The other place this is really beneficial is colleges are now creating women's programs at a pretty high rate. This is VERY important for Title IX implications. Title IX has DECIMATED men's wrestling the past 4 or 5 decades due to the rules about equal representation of athletes in college athletics. While the goal of creating more opportunities for women might have been good, colleges did not do this and simply cut men's sports instead. Wrestling was almost always at the top of the chopping block. Hoping the changing tides will lead to some reversals of that and colleges will be able to re-instate some cut programs in the future.
I am amazed at how sports terms can have different meanings in different states. Here in Maryland, getting to "states." means playing for the state championship and NOT playing in the state wide tournament.
 
My wife and I were a little concerned how healthy it would be to make weight. From what I’ve heard and seen the days of spitting in a cup and taking ex lax are a thing of the past.

Is that true on the boys side too? Even when I was in HS (seems like yesterday, but let's call it 20 years ago), some of the guys would sleep in trash bags, binge eat, etc. to make weight.
 
As more women transition from the physical activity of housework to business desk jobs, the lessons learned by participating in sports will pay big dividends for them.

Have you ever considered the consequences of such a transition - domestically and globally? This had one of the most significant impacts on socioeconomic in recent memory.
 
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Is that true on the boys side too? Even when I was in HS (seems like yesterday, but let's call it 20 years ago), some of the guys would sleep in trash bags, binge eat, etc. to make weight.

Best friend played hockey in high school. His team won the state tournament before they won city.

Still doesn't make sense.
 
The struggle never goes away for this, but you can learn to manage it without meds. I'll never be as productive as I could be on Adderall, but the long-term effects aren't worth it IMO. Besides, it constantly reminds me to come over on here and shitpost!
Not to hijack but to hijack do we know the long term effects? The younger gen all take it. And it is absolutely amazing. I’m sort of shocked it hasn’t been mentioned for my daughter. She has so much pancreatic shit I think it just hasn’t been on the radar
 
Only after did I find out I was ADHD and more recently bi-polar. So armed with a better understanding of why I struggle the way I do I’m better prepared to re-attempt college with a new approach. Thanks to medication and some therapy I want to give it another shot.

Good luck. I started back to college last semester. My ADHD is still a problem but I've learned better techniques at dealing with it. The thing is, taking a break to allow me to refocus works great in writing papers and reading, but in the classroom setting it isn't possible. "Stop the lecture, I need to go do some physical activity to refocus" doesn't seem appreciated. I hope the medicine works for you, I've decided not to try that route. I did try counseling, but because I was an old man with an enlarged prostate which meant waking up and going to the bathroom, she fixated on me being depressed. That was crazy, finally going to my doctor and getting prostate medicine solved that issue, but it left me convinced that counseling wasn't going to help me.
 
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Have you ever considered the consequences of such a significant transition - domestically and globally? This had one of the most significant impacts on socioeconomic changes in recent memory.

JDB, since my youth and increasingly throughout my lifetime have been aware of the transistion.

Watched my mother and an older sister run families while letting their husbands think they were in charge.

In contrast my Aunt Loie never let her lawyer husband have the pleasure of thinking he was in charge. To prove he could run things and to maintain his manhood, he became the town's mayor.
 
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Good luck. I started back to college last semester. My ADHD is still a problem but I've learned better techniques at dealing with it. The thing is, taking a break to allow me to refocus works great in writing papers and reading, but in the classroom setting it isn't possible. "Stop the lecture, I need to go do some physical activity to refocus" doesn't seem appreciated. I hope the medicine works for you, I've decided not to try that route. I did try counseling, but because I was an old man with an enlarged prostate which meant waking up and going to the bathroom, she fixated on me being depressed. That was crazy, finally going to my doctor and getting prostate medicine solved that issue, but it left me convinced that counseling wasn't going to help me.
Addy. After class you’ll be buying pitchers for classmates at kilroys. You can do it all with adderall Marv. And you don’t need to worry about long term effects
 
The struggle never goes away for this, but you can learn to manage it without meds. I'll never be as productive as I could be on Adderall, but the long-term effects aren't worth it IMO. Besides, it constantly reminds me to come over on here and shitpost!
I actually don’t take any meds for the ADHD. They always made me feel to jittery. My meds have more to do with the symptoms of depression from the bipolar but also from feeling inadequate because I couldn’t accomplish tasks mostly related to the ADHD. I agree there’s ways to hack ADHD, but many don’t realize the mental anguish from struggling with the disorder and how it can almost destroy relationships if not dealt with properly.
 
Addy. After class you’ll be buying pitchers for classmates at kilroys. You can do it all with adderall Marv. And you don’t need to worry about long term effects
Some people really need it. It might have made a huge difference in my life 50 years ago. Today, let someone who can still see that huge difference have the pills. At my age it is more an annoyance. I'm not going to be fired before I retire, I don't think my wife is going to leave me now, etc. There are shortages because so many want it, I might want the benefit but the people who need it should get it.
 
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Some people really need it. It might have made a huge difference in my life 50 years ago. Today, let someone who can still see that huge difference have the pills. At my age it is more an annoyance. I'm not going to be fired before I retire, I don't think my wife is going to leave me now, etc. There are shortages because so many want it, I might want the benefit but the people who need it should get it.

F them kids, Marv.

Marv on Adderall would be solving world hunger.
 
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