You will not get traditional vetting with a Trump administration because they don’t care. We are way past normal process like who have you contributed money too or is there anything in your past that could embarrass the POTUS? What is publicly known about a candidate like Gaetz would be disqualifying in normal administration.At the very least, doesn't Trump's Gaetz nomination give you the slightest degree of pause about Trump's continued inability to be patient, do his due diligence, be thorough, etc. on "hiring" people into his administration?
All I can say is: WOW
What did I miss? The thread I read didn't disprove Gaetz had sex with the 17-year-old; it only said she had a fake ID that said she was 18. Nor did it disprove that Gaetz and the sex trafficker were longtime friends, photographed together at parties.All I can say is: WOW
It was my contention all along that Gaetz wasn't going to get confirmation because he went after McCarthy and now I believe it even more. I always thought the charges of underage sex was bogus, although I think Gaetz, as a young-ish bachelor, certainly was a horn-dog.
Gaetz would have blown up the Senate and the media if he laid this story out in the hearings.
I think some deals were struck to keep this quiet (although it's out now).
Some Twitter Twit told a different "story" and DANC bought it hook, line and sinker, because he's very easily duped.What did I miss? The thread I read didn't disprove Gaetz had sex with the 17-year-old; it only said she had a fake ID that said she was 18. Nor did it disprove that Gaetz and the sex trafficker were longtime friends, photographed together at parties.
So he did have sex with the 17-year-old? At a coke and hooker party?
And nothing there explains the Venmo and Paypal payments in increments of $400 and $500 dollars to women. Those payments are pretty clearly payments for prostitutes.
As for trying to keep Gaetz version of this story quiet, this stuff has already been out there, no? Isn't this the story he's been using for a while now?
My comments werren't about any prostitution charges - because there aren't any. The DoJ investigated and, evidently found none.What did I miss? The thread I read didn't disprove Gaetz had sex with the 17-year-old; it only said she had a fake ID that said she was 18. Nor did it disprove that Gaetz and the sex trafficker were longtime friends, photographed together at parties.
So he did have sex with the 17-year-old? At a coke and hooker party?
And nothing there explains the Venmo and Paypal payments in increments of $400 and $500 dollars to women. Those payments are pretty clearly payments for prostitutes.
As for trying to keep Gaetz version of this story quiet, this stuff has already been out there, no? Isn't this the story he's been using for a while now?
Love me some Todd Young, he hates racists as much as I do!Good. One down, 3 more to go. I'm sure that Romney and Murkowski won't be far behind her.
And I'd be very surprised if Todd Young supports him. Young is a serious, level-headed guy.
I guess what you missed was that there was plenty of evidence that Gaetz and his dad were being blackmailed. There is no 'evidence' of the age of the girl, other than the claim of someone in prison who was giving out information to try to cut a deal.
I doubt we'll ever see the report.The blackmail angle has been bandied about for some time, so nothing new there. Maybe the House Ethics Committee addressed it. Let's see what the report says.
I can't read the Twitter thread. I've heard claims that the buddy tried to blackmail Gaetz. I don't know anything about an Iran angle.I doubt we'll ever see the report.
Are you telling me you knew about the Iran angle? I sure didn't.
It's too bad you can't read it, because it's insane. If it's true, there's a lot more going on with the Gaetz story than we know.I can't read the Twitter thread. I've heard claims that the buddy tried to blackmail Gaetz. I don't know anything about an Iran angle.
So he had sex with a girl at the party in question, yes?There is no 'evidence' of the age of the girl, other than the claim of someone in prison who was giving out information to try to cut a deal.
It's 3 years old.I doubt we'll ever see the report.
Are you telling me you knew about the Iran angle? I sure didn't.
Whatever. I saw this one thing on Twitter.So he had sex with a girl at the party in question, yes?
And we have a girl who says she was at the party who had sex with him. And another who says she saw them having sex. Both under oath. That's evidence, with quotations or without. Regarding the woman's actual age at the time in question, what kind of evidence do you need? Her birth certificate?
Gaetz might not be charged with paying a prostitute. Who cares? Even if it can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, it is still relevant as to his confirmation as the Attorney General of the United States. And you have to bury your head in the sand to conclude he wasn't paying for sex.
Now, if we want to discuss whether that should disqualify him, I'm open to it. But first, we need to agree on the facts. Gaetz has ducked and dived, and come up with some other interesting stories, but none of them detract from the fact that he had sex with a teenage girl--probably not knowing her exact age--at a coke party with a bunch of prostitutes. Nor do those stories contradict or call into question that he has a history of payments to women that look exactly like payments to prostitutes while having a friend involved in sex trafficking prostitutes.
The asshole who was sentenced to 11 years provided more than one underage girl with genuine Florida credentials showing their age was 20. His position gave him access to the mechanism allowing this. These licenses were issued by the state of Florida and were totally genuine, but fake.My comments werren't about any prostitution charges - because there aren't any. The DoJ investigated and, evidently found none.
I guess what you missed was that there was plenty of evidence that Gaetz and his dad were being blackmailed. There is no 'evidence' of the age of the girl, other than the claim of someone in prison who was giving out information to try to cut a deal.
No, it's hasn't been 'out there' - it's rumors that have been leaked. If you can find anything about public charges from officials, feel free to post them.