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Gaetz withdraws from AG consideration

Meh. I like it. Message sent. Deep state is quaking in their boots.
No they aren't.

So this was always the risk of a Trump Presidency Round Dos. There are some points that they have that I think are valid. There are parts of the DOJ and other agencies that got out of line for political reasons. That should be cleaned up. I also am very familiar with issues within the Federal service that could use an overhaul. To do that requires smart people and a level of tact to make sure that reforms stick. Gaetz is a petulant child. Reform won't happen at the DOJ because he won't be able to work his way through it. Musk and Ramaswamy have already made a joke out of what they are saying they are going to do and they've turned that into a gimmick as well and that goes beyond just the name of their "Department".

This is the Trump that couldn't navigate COVID.

On the other hand, some of the other picks should be fine. Guess we'll see how it goes.
 
No they aren't.

So this was always the risk of a Trump Presidency Round Dos. There are some points that they have that I think are valid. There are parts of the DOJ and other agencies that got out of line for political reasons. That should be cleaned up. I also am very familiar with issues within the Federal service that could use an overhaul. To do that requires smart people and a level of tact to make sure that reforms stick. Gaetz is a petulant child. Reform won't happen at the DOJ because he won't be able to work his way through it. Musk and Ramaswamy have already made a joke out of what they are saying they are going to do and they've turned that into a gimmick as well and that goes beyond just the name of their "Department".

This is the Trump that couldn't navigate COVID.

On the other hand, some of the other picks should be fine. Guess we'll see how it goes.

The Vivek/Elon thing is such a ridiculous gimmick
 
Trump wants a TV morning news show host to run the Pentagon. To combat crime and uphold justice he is appointing an alleged pedophile. To combat bureaucracy and government bloat Trump is creating a new government agency to oversee and report on efficiencies and waste...that last one is the best... The chefs kiss...
 
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Trump wants a TV morning news show host to run the Pentagon. To combat crime and uphold justice he is appointing an alleged pedophile. To combat bureaucracy and government bloat Trump is creating a new government agency to oversee and report on efficiencies and waste...that last one is the best... The chefs kiss...
Probably hire Ronald McDonald as White House chef.
 
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"He's not qualified" is absolutely comical coming from the party that just made Kamala Harris their nominee and the VP for 4 years.
Are you a bit concerned that Republican congressmen have stated that Gaetz showed them racy pictures of his teen "dates" on his phone and joked about crushing Viagra tablets into energy drinks to keep up?
That would be some "frame up" wouldn't it?
 
Dude, whatever you think of Hillary, she was (and still is) wildly more competent than Gaetz. Let's be real here. This is the American government we're talking about. Not some shitty frat joke.
We'll agree to disagree. Hillary was corrupt and incompetent, as evidenced by Benghazi.

The discussion was about qualifications. She had none for Sec of State.

Gaetz is a smartass and an asshole, and made many enemies in Congress. He's not going to get confirmed.
 
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Sorry no, not even close dipshit. Hilary had been a Senator for 8 years and had come very close to getting the Dem nomination for President in 2008. The horse trading that ended the 2008 primary battle is a very much a normal thing.
So, she was qualified because she was a Senator but Gaetz isn't qualified even though he had just as much time in Congress and on the Judiciary Committee?

Ridiculous.
 
We’ll see. The government desperately needs what they are tasked to do. We will shortly know how serious this is. I think it’s the most exciting and useful part of the Trumps second term.
I can imagine them coming up with some worthwhile ideas.

I cannot imagine Congress (or any other governmental institutions) adopting those ideas. They aren’t interested in efficiency. They’re interested in power - and, in DC, money is power.
 
No they aren't.

So this was always the risk of a Trump Presidency Round Dos. There are some points that they have that I think are valid. There are parts of the DOJ and other agencies that got out of line for political reasons. That should be cleaned up. I also am very familiar with issues within the Federal service that could use an overhaul. To do that requires smart people and a level of tact to make sure that reforms stick. Gaetz is a petulant child. Reform won't happen at the DOJ because he won't be able to work his way through it. Musk and Ramaswamy have already made a joke out of what they are saying they are going to do and they've turned that into a gimmick as well and that goes beyond just the name of their "Department".

This is the Trump that couldn't navigate COVID.

On the other hand, some of the other picks should be fine. Guess we'll see how it goes.
Tell me who navigated COVID?

I don't know why you're getting all verklempt about Gaetz - he's not going to be confirmed. And he's now out of Congress.

You should be thrilled.
 
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And, for what exactly? What could possibly be the benefit -- even if it's the benefit to Trump rather than, ya know, the country -- of having a clown like Matt Gaetz as Attorney General?
Gaetz being a clown is the benefit. DJT was always going to be the de facto AG. He had relativity normal AG's the first time around and it bit him in the ass, twice. Hence, Gaetz. Neither has shame.
 
Trump wants a TV morning news show host to run the Pentagon. To combat crime and uphold justice he is appointing an alleged pedophile. To combat bureaucracy and government bloat Trump is creating a new government agency to oversee and report on efficiencies and waste...that last one is the best... The chefs kiss...
Sorry you lost the election. Now you won't get AOC as Sec of State
 
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We’ll see. The government desperately needs what they are tasked to do. We will shortly know how serious this is. I think it’s the most exciting and useful part of the Trumps second term.

I've posted this forever but discretionary spending is historically within range.

We run massive deficits because we can't control the mandatory side of the budget. It's a very simple math problem, but one that nobody will admit.

Quit passing out money to old people and we have no problem.

You start. Take a 25% reduction in your Medicare benefit. You are the problem

I have a 100 year old grandfather. It's great that our modern world can keep him around. He's still vibrant and can get around on his own and have great conversation. He's a WW2 vet that served in the Navy in the Pacific..

I've got two parents in their 80s and 70s that will likely live a long time too... Including an 83v year old dad that just had some colon cancer removed. And has a clean bill of health.

It's incredible how far medicine has taken us with extendeing longevity. And we all want that for ourselves and our loved ones.

But we have tax and care systems built on actuary tables from 40+ years ago. All we're doing is lying and totally fkning younger people with enormous liabilities. And it's just basic insurance. Nothing to do with overspending on normal govt operations

We spend $6T. $2T is on government..The rest is all interest and money for old people. We only bring in about $4.5T in revenue
 
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So, she was qualified because she was a Senator but Gaetz isn't qualified even though he had just as much time in Congress and on the Judiciary Committee?

Ridiculous.

No. She ran for President and was in a dead heat with Obama with actual people voting across 50 states. Maybe you don't remember.

She's not a likeable person, but her intellectual capacity is impressive and anyone saying otherwise is a hopeless partisan.

If you think that's equivalent to Matt Gaetz than you are a fkn idiot. Someone who came from huge money and still was a goof.
 
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I've posted this forever but discretionary spending is historically within range.

We run massive deficits because we can't control the mandatory side of the budget. It's a very simple math problem, but one that nobody will admit.

Quit passing out money to old people and we have no problem.

You start. Take a 25% reduction in your Medicare benefit. You are the problem

I have a 100 year old grandfather. It's great that our modern world can keep him around. He's still vibrant and can get around on his own and have great conversation. He's a WW2 vet that served in the Navy in the Pacific..

I've got two parents in their 80s and 70s that will likely live a long time too... Including an 83v year old dad that just had some colon cancer removed. And has a clean bill of health.

It's incredible how far medicine has taken us with extendeing longevity. And we all want that for ourselves and our loved ones.

But we have tax and care systems built on actuary tables from 40+ years ago. All we're doing is lying and totally fkning younger people with enormous liabilities. And it's just basic insurance. Nothing to do with overspending on normal govt operations

We spend $6T. $2T is on government..The rest is all interest and money for old people. We only bring in about $4.5T in revenue
There you go, trying to say old people that they lose their Social Security. You’re full of Democrat propaganda.
 
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There you go, trying to say they lose their Social Security. You’re full of Democrat propaganda.

You can't do 6-4 you dumb fk.

And we were all know you are taker. A leech on society that I pay for
 
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Why is the DOGE a strike?
Two rich guys with big egos put in charge of a fake department to start inputting efficiencies over agencies they don't understand with an arbitrary end date in the middle of 2026.

Here is an A to Z index of every government agency:


They are giving themselves a year and a half to go through and make recommendations about increasing efficiency. That is maybe an couple days per agency to learn systems needs and what each agency does. What kind of quality do you think we are going to get out of those recommendations? If it is going to be large sweeping declarations (cut regulations and decrease staff) then job is already done. I don't see how they are going to be able to go through and increase efficiency through robotics and systems, that is already occurring but happens at a slow pace because of funding.

They got their name by making an acronym out of Elon's bitcoin, they set an impossibly small timeline for real reform, and one of the principal partners has taken to posting memes on his platform to get the attention he craves. Ramaswamy appears to be taking it somewhat seriously but his partner isn't so far. Frankly I could save them all time, cut the regulatory authority Vivek has mentioned, make it easier to let underperforming employees go, and dust off Simpson-Bowles. There is your start and it didn't take two rich dudes and a made up new department to do it.

@DANC to answer your question on Gaetz it is the same thing. Burning political capital to what? Troll? You don't like the pick either because Gaetz has shown to be a child who will cut off his nose to spite his face and undermine everyone he has to work with in one swoop to boost his ego. His own party hates him. That wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing if the dislike was related to him being able to force through unpopular positions that people that voted for Trump think we need. That isn't it though. They dislike him because he is a stupid dick. I don't want a stupid dick trying to clean up DOJ. You are likely to get a shitty job out of that. That is if he even makes it that far. How much political capital will Trump spend with his own party to try and get a stupid dick elected to a position he is likely to be no good at? Trump is a lame duck from day one. He has a 4 year expiration date and then his movement likely dies. I see all this Don Jr. talk and there is no way I am voting to turn this into a monarchy in 2028. Trump's first administration was bogged down because he couldn't get people to work with him. This seems like shooting himself in the foot and I don't think it was some kind of 4D chess to get Gaetz out of the house.

There is a chance to do something worthwhile here and I don't like the early returns.
 
No they aren't.

So this was always the risk of a Trump Presidency Round Dos. There are some points that they have that I think are valid. There are parts of the DOJ and other agencies that got out of line for political reasons. That should be cleaned up. I also am very familiar with issues within the Federal service that could use an overhaul. To do that requires smart people and a level of tact to make sure that reforms stick. Gaetz is a petulant child. Reform won't happen at the DOJ because he won't be able to work his way through it. Musk and Ramaswamy have already made a joke out of what they are saying they are going to do and they've turned that into a gimmick as well and that goes beyond just the name of their "Department".

This is the Trump that couldn't navigate COVID.

On the other hand, some of the other picks should be fine. Guess we'll see how it goes.
Couldn’t disagree more. But all you “Trump is bad” guys…we could see this coming a mile away.
 
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I've posted this forever but discretionary spending is historically within range.

We run massive deficits because we can't control the mandatory side of the budget. It's a very simple math problem, but one that nobody will admit.

Quit passing out money to old people and we have no problem.

You start. Take a 25% reduction in your Medicare benefit. You are the problem

I have a 100 year old grandfather. It's great that our modern world can keep him around. He's still vibrant and can get around on his own and have great conversation. He's a WW2 vet that served in the Navy in the Pacific..

I've got two parents in their 80s and 70s that will likely live a long time too... Including an 83v year old dad that just had some colon cancer removed. And has a clean bill of health.

It's incredible how far medicine has taken us with extendeing longevity. And we all want that for ourselves and our loved ones.

But we have tax and care systems built on actuary tables from 40+ years ago. All we're doing is lying and totally fkning younger people with enormous liabilities. And it's just basic insurance. Nothing to do with overspending on normal govt operations

We spend $6T. $2T is on government..The rest is all interest and money for old people. We only bring in about $4.5T in revenue

While you’re certainly right that the source of our fiscal train wreck is entitlement cost, I’d push back a little bit on your larger point.

First, any cost savings that could be found and realized would be a positive thing…even if it amounts to dipping a ladle into a bathtub.

Second, and more importantly, there are reasons other than cost and deficits to pare/streamline government and its bureaucracies. There are so many things related to government that are complicated, time-consuming, and pointless that could and should be simplified. It’s almost always the bottleneck.

That doesn’t mean this Vivek/Musk thing isn’t a gimmick. I’d love nothing more than to see a genuine, concerted effort to streamline government, whatever its impact on our budget disaster. And I’m certainly not sold this is it.

Still, I don’t agree that such an effort would be for naught unless it reduced entitlement costs.
 
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