Ahh. Yes, thanks.
Durbin is asking already. He'll get at least some Republican support I think.
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Gaetz withdraws from AG consideration
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Durbin is asking already. He'll get at least some Republican support I think.
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Look. I’ll be as clear as I can for you. Grown men having sex with children is horrendous and a crime. There are no political blinders any decent human being should be viewing this through. If you do, you are a terrible human. If your excuse for anyone’s terrible and criminal actions are that some equally terrible person from a different political persuasion did it, I’d recommend you do some introspection.
Gaetz is a Class-A slime ball regardless of whether or not he banged a teen hooker. There are 999 other reasons why he shouldn't have this appointment.
I would venture to say that most everyone on this board wouldn’t be in their current jobs with 3 DUIs. In Indiana, you might be permanently disbarred.
If you are willing to recess appoint a position as important as AG you might as well blow up the government, separation of powers, etc. Going to be fun watching thus train wreck. The economic engines of this country rely on some level of predictability and normalcy. The markets hate uncertainty.
Shit show coming .
Has this guy (Gaetz) ever tried a case? Or even set foot in a courtroom? After graduating from law school he was in private practice for about five minutes before becoming a career politician.
There are people reading this who are probably more qualified for AG than Gaetz.
And Kennedy for HHS secretary? Insane. Literally.
These are two of the most fvcked up cabinet appointments in American history.
Shit show coming? Shit show already here.
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Then in Indiana girls are not children at 17, or the legislature excuses terrible crimes.
I feel if she was representing as 18, it's a factor, and if that's true, then the drug use if true bothers me as much. I knew a couple senior girls when I was a junior in high school, shacking up with their much, ten years-ish, older adult boyfriends. I didn't like it then either.
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If Gaetz banged my 17 yr old daughter it’d be the last time he ever banged anyone
So it probably wouldn’t be a positive that he, say, brought a bunch of drugs to the teenage party?
That sounds like a question for @BradStevens
It’s really something that the Trump fans just brush it off and say “well, we will just do recess appointments”. Like that makes it OK.
To all you normal folks who voted for Trump because you thought you would get policies you prefer, nope. You won’t get anything. These 2 years of the GOP controlling the federal government will be wasted. Just like the last time. It will be a circus at best and an unmitigated disaster at worst.
Damn, it’s already over two months before it started. That’s unfortunate news for the Dream Team.
Anything is better than a progressive.
He ran on loyalty. Gaetz has been a stalwart. I'm shocked that anyone is shocked. I didn't vote for the man, but any Trump voter should be delighted. So far it's full steam ahead with the agenda.
If I were a Trump voter and he passed Trump's character test then he would pass mine. Trump deserves the cabinet that he wants. How can you blame him if he is unable to act on his agenda if he does not have the team he wants assisting him?
Can be a Trump voter and still expect the senate to do their jobs and weed out the worst of Trumps base instincts. There's reasons to prefer Trump over Kamala than 'he always rulz!' Three branches of government after all.
But, Trump character test, hmm... if Gaetz grabs 'em by the pussy, he's in then. And there's plenty of smoke in that direction.
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I doubt trump expects him to get approved it just focus all the energy on this while his other nominees cruise through.
Is it too much to ask that we have an AG where he’s not asked during his confirmation hearing “did you have sex with that young woman in Indiana or DC?”? Or…”how old did you think she was?”?
Is there no baseline standard of not being a creep?
Is there no baseline standard of not being a creep?
Here's the thing, if it's true
He hung out at a party with BLOW and NAKED HOOKERS (or to be nicer, strippers) walking around. And regardless of whether he had sex with the stripper, he's already disqualified! And especially if he had sex with the stripper even if she's an adult.
I don't know any decent men of integrity who don't just leave that kind of party, unless maybe they're on their 21st birthday at their frat house. Anybody in their mid 30s with a professional job, leaves. Gaetz and Bill Clinton maybe don't. It doesn't sound like a teen party to me, sounds like an adult party according to those claiming nobody was underage. But it was a slimy party (or parties) with hookers and blow, if it's true.
I appreciate the good Dads in the thread. But none of them, after hearing their 18 year old ('officially' not underage) daughter was the naked stripper or hooker at a party with adult men and blow, says "Wow, good thing it wasn't four months ago when she was only 17, or I'd be pissed." (Is it slimier the more under say, 21, they are, yeah, and at that age if true, very yeah. But there are laws that states set if non commercial and consensual. Which if true this isn't anyway so it's already disqualifying.)
And apparently there is no baseline anymore. In politics.
Gaetz denials are so hollow. He did the stuff. Only maybe he didn't have sex with the underage stripper others say was 18. He's still disqualified.
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He hung out at a party with BLOW and NAKED HOOKERS (or to be nicer, strippers) walking around. And regardless of whether he had sex with the stripper, he's already disqualified! And especially if he had sex with the stripper even if she's an adult.
I don't know any decent men of integrity who don't just leave that kind of party, unless maybe they're on their 21st birthday at their frat house. Anybody in their mid 30s with a professional job, leaves. Gaetz and Bill Clinton maybe don't. It doesn't sound like a teen party to me, sounds like an adult party according to those claiming nobody was underage. But it was a slimy party (or parties) with hookers and blow, if it's true.
I appreciate the good Dads in the thread. But none of them, after hearing their 18 year old ('officially' not underage) daughter was the naked stripper or hooker at a party with adult men and blow, says "Wow, good thing it wasn't four months ago when she was only 17, or I'd be pissed." (Is it slimier the more under say, 21, they are, yeah, and at that age if true, very yeah. But there are laws that states set if non commercial and consensual. Which if true this isn't anyway so it's already disqualifying.)
And apparently there is no baseline anymore. In politics.
Gaetz denials are so hollow. He did the stuff. Only maybe he didn't have sex with the underage stripper others say was 18. He's still disqualified.
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Devil's advocate: Why?
Clinton was a good President (just assume that). He was a slimeball in his personal life.
Do one's sexual proclivities affect their ability to do a job (outside an addiction that undermines work ethic, obviously)? Does one's use of cocaine in the past automatically disqualify one from public office? Why? I'm guessing a lot of people in power that lived through the 80s, for example, did cocaine. Why does that disqualify?
Added consideration: we just elected a man with Trump's background and character. How is Gaetz's different or worse in relation to either societal norms or his particular qualifications for the office and its responsibilities?
The fact that this recently happened has to mean something right? He’s currently being investigated for these actions and the report was to come out today. This isn’t GWB doing coke 40 years ago while in college. This is a 40 year old man doing all the shit now.
This is all about testing the loyalty of the Pubs in congress and having his guy to go after political enemies. No one should be surprised, he told us this many times
Clinton was doing what he was doing with Lewinsky while President. Did those actions make him worse at his job?
I completely understand, and am disgusted by, the moral angle. I'm asking if it matters as to how the guy might perform his job.
These are questions for thought and debate, not an indication of my support for Gaetz.
Well then, Gaetz can be president, if he can get enough votes.
To be Attorney General, recent history ought to show ability to understand both decent behavior and also lawful behavior. If he's going to be judging others to direct actions by his department.
Also, while I said 'allegations' I am not accusing Clinton of anything other than being a common serial philanderer. The Lewinski affair was inappropriate, yet the Democrats rounded on Monica like a ravenous pack of wolves - but not on Bill.
To be Attorney General, recent history ought to show ability to understand both decent behavior and also lawful behavior. If he's going to be judging others to direct actions by his department.
Also, while I said 'allegations' I am not accusing Clinton of anything other than being a common serial philanderer. The Lewinski affair was inappropriate, yet the Democrats rounded on Monica like a ravenous pack of wolves - but not on Bill.
Professionalism and good judgment is his job.
The Gaetz is complete nonsense. Everyone has known this stuff for years. Was fully investigated by the Feds and they got nothing. He will be confirmed.
Does it bother you that other REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMEN say that Gaetz showed then pictures of teen girls on his phone, while bragging about crushing up viagra tablets into his energy drink so that he could "keep up with them"?
There are dumb questions ^^^^^^ Of course it doesn't bother dbm.
