Front Office Sports - Big Ten Hopes to Earn at Least $1.5B Annually in Media Rights Deal

[rikki-tikka-tava]

Big Ten Hopes to Earn at Least $1.5B Annually in Rights Deal

The Big Ten hopes it could become the richest conference in all of college sports after they sign its new media rights deal.

frontofficesports.com

At nearly $100 million annually per school less overhead/expenses for the Conference, AD and such, a healthy allocation by IU to benefit (pay) all scholarship student-athletes could really boost IU in all competitive sports. Some/many will likely argue that any such disbursements be awarded on the basis of a sport's respective contribution to generating media revenue - for my part I'd like to see a more egalitarian approach, i.e., swimmers, volleyball /soccer/baseball/FB/BB players, track and field, et al., all receive the same 'stipend'. Alternately could create a tiered system so that everyone is guaranteed something above and beyond a scholarship...

 

[Cavanagh]

Big Ten Hopes to Earn at Least $1.5B Annually in Rights Deal

The Big Ten hopes it could become the richest conference in all of college sports after they sign its new media rights deal.

frontofficesports.com

M for my part I'd like to see a more egalitarian approach, i.e., swimmers, volleyball /soccer/baseball/FB/BB players, track and field, et al., all receive the same 'stipend'. Alternately could create a tiered system so that everyone is guaranteed something above and beyond a scholarship...

I really don’t understand this concept. Correct me if I am wrong, But are you advocating that all the non rev athletes get something in terms of being paid? Not only give them free schooling, facilities, gear, food, and pay for all of their travel…. Let’s pay them too???

Why on earth should you be paying someone to do something they enjoy and no1 else cares about. What good does that do them in the real world? Why don’t we start paying the KSB kids that get straight As? Hell they will donate back what they receive 10fold😬!

 

[rikki-tikka-tava]

I really don’t understand this concept. Correct me if I am wrong, But are you advocating that all the non rev athletes get something in terms of being paid? Not only give them free schooling, facilities, gear, food, and pay for all of their travel…. Let’s pay them too???

Why on earth should you be paying someone to do something they enjoy and no1 else cares about. What good does that do them in the real world? Why don’t we start paying the KSB kids that get straight As? Hell they will donate back what they receive 10fold😬!

Yes you do - you just don't agree with it.

I favored maintaining the 'purity' of amateur vs. paid collegiate athletics for the longest time. But as it was in many respects an illusion that ultimately succumbed to cheating and the influence of fantastic revenue streams, something had to give. Add the issues of individual/constitutional rights and basic fairness, and the advent of NIL was in some respects a fait accompli.

While I'll allow that there's an 'everyone gets a trophy' aspect to paying all scholarship athletes, insofar as they work much harder than mere students/scholars to bring glory/prestige to their Schools, only makes sense to get 'the best that money can buy'. Except for golf. And bowling if that's a thing or athletics that doesn't actually involve athleticism per se. 🍏

There is value in IU having great BB, soccer, swimming and diving, track and field teams, and the like - so pay them. Perhaps not as much as BB/FB players whose sports do in fact generate absurd revenues, but the worth or value of a thing (or person) goes well beyond how much money they earn or happen to make for their handlers. So yes, am advocating that anyone who is awarded a scholarship with the expectation that they will in some way exalt IU through DI athletics get a piece of the media revenue.

On some level I'd perhaps ultimately like to see a rebate to all students along the lines of what Alaska used to do (and maybe still does) wherein every resident man, woman and child got an annual dividend check as a way of the State sharing out some of its fantastic oil and gas revenues. But then I like sharing, and certain aspects of 'socialism' are far more humane/sensible/constructive than pure unadulterated capitalism.

Share the wealth - everyone wins. 🍎

 

[Cavanagh]

Yes you do - you just don't agree with it.

I favored maintaining the 'purity' of amateur vs. paid collegiate athletics for the longest time. But as it was in many respects an illusion that ultimately succumbed to cheating and the influence of fantastic revenue streams, something had to give. Add the issues of individual/constitutional rights and basic fairness, and the advent of NIL was in some respects a fait accompli.

While I'll allow that there's an 'everyone gets a trophy' aspect to paying all scholarship athletes, insofar as they work much harder than mere students/scholars to bring glory/prestige to their Schools, only makes sense to get 'the best that money can buy'. Except for golf. And bowling if that's a thing or athletics that doesn't actually involve athleticism per se. 🍏

There is value in IU having great BB, soccer, swimming and diving, track and field teams, and the like - so pay them. Perhaps not as much as BB/FB players whose sports do in fact generate absurd revenues, but the worth or value of a thing (or person) goes well beyond how much money they earn or happen to make for their handlers. So yes, am advocating that anyone who is awarded a scholarship with the expectation that they will in some way exalt IU through DI athletics get a piece of the media revenue.

On some level I'd perhaps ultimately like to see a rebate to all students along the lines of what Alaska used to do (and maybe still does) wherein every resident man, woman and child got an annual dividend check as a way of the State sharing out some of its fantastic oil and gas revenues. But then I like sharing, and certain aspects of 'socialism' are far more humane/sensible/constructive than pure unadulterated capitalism.

Share the wealth - everyone wins. 🍎

We shall agree to disagree .

 

[birdforbogey]

IU has been making good money for years. They are suddenly going to start caring about IU sports programs? I believe this when I see it. IU football is the doormat to the B1G.

 

[rsomm]

IU has been making good money for years. They are suddenly going to start caring about IU sports programs? I believe this when I see it. IU football is the doormat to the B1G.

Everybody is fine when they think they can spend someone else's money, wait and see when their cable bill jumps another $50 a month to pay for it!

 

[rikki-tikka-tava]

We shall agree to disagree .

Sure, but not sure with what it is you disagree - not as if a windfall of this order doesn't allow for some innovative/progressive thinking/action. And if not what I described then something else - IU is already sitting on $3.3 billion endowment, chance to do something good, amazing, progressive or maybe even brilliant. Chance to make a (greater) difference.

Would amend my universal 'dividend' notion to something that awards only those students who do service above and beyond fulfilling their academic obligations. Those, e.g., that volunteer community service, get $100 a semester just on general principles to affirm/acknowledge/incentivize their efforts. Those people don't do it for the money, but could easily argue that their 'contributions' or endeavors are of far more value than 'playing games'. Suppose it depends on what one is actually trying to teach/cultivate, eh?

Enough. Mere idle early-morning musing - my point is/was that wealth is not an end in itself, nor synonamous with good/success.

 

[hickorytree1]

Yes you do - you just don't agree with it.

I favored maintaining the 'purity' of amateur vs. paid collegiate athletics for the longest time. But as it was in many respects an illusion that ultimately succumbed to cheating and the influence of fantastic revenue streams, something had to give. Add the issues of individual/constitutional rights and basic fairness, and the advent of NIL was in some respects a fait accompli.

While I'll allow that there's an 'everyone gets a trophy' aspect to paying all scholarship athletes, insofar as they work much harder than mere students/scholars to bring glory/prestige to their Schools, only makes sense to get 'the best that money can buy'. Except for golf. And bowling if that's a thing or athletics that doesn't actually involve athleticism per se. 🍏

There is value in IU having great BB, soccer, swimming and diving, track and field teams, and the like - so pay them. Perhaps not as much as BB/FB players whose sports do in fact generate absurd revenues, but the worth or value of a thing (or person) goes well beyond how much money they earn or happen to make for their handlers. So yes, am advocating that anyone who is awarded a scholarship with the expectation that they will in some way exalt IU through DI athletics get a piece of the media revenue.

On some level I'd perhaps ultimately like to see a rebate to all students along the lines of what Alaska used to do (and maybe still does) wherein every resident man, woman and child got an annual dividend check as a way of the State sharing out some of its fantastic oil and gas revenues. But then I like sharing, and certain aspects of 'socialism' are far more humane/sensible/constructive than pure unadulterated capitalism.

Share the wealth - everyone wins. 🍎

I'm sure your intentions are honorable, but you lost me on the exclusion of golfers. Am I misreading?

 

[B1G_Fan]

Everybody is fine when they think they can spend someone else's money, wait and see when their cable bill jumps another $50 a month to pay for it!

What is cable?

 

[mushroomgod_1]

Big Ten Hopes to Earn at Least $1.5B Annually in Rights Deal

The Big Ten hopes it could become the richest conference in all of college sports after they sign its new media rights deal.

frontofficesports.com

At nearly $100 million annually per school less overhead/expenses for the Conference, AD and such, a healthy allocation by IU to benefit (pay) all scholarship student-athletes could really boost IU in all competitive sports. Some/many will likely argue that any such disbursements be awarded on the basis of a sport's respective contribution to generating media revenue - for my part I'd like to see a more egalitarian approach, i.e., swimmers, volleyball /soccer/baseball/FB/BB players, track and field, et al., all receive the same 'stipend'. Alternately could create a tiered system so that everyone is guaranteed something above and beyond a scholarship...

The lawyers are going to be fighting endlessly in many forums over any proposed distribution pattern.......hopefully the federal legislation Tuberville wants to author would limit that problem.

 

[mushroomgod_1]

I really don’t understand this concept. Correct me if I am wrong, But are you advocating that all the non rev athletes get something in terms of being paid? Not only give them free schooling, facilities, gear, food, and pay for all of their travel…. Let’s pay them too???

Why on earth should you be paying someone to do something they enjoy and no1 else cares about. What good does that do them in the real world? Why don’t we start paying the KSB kids that get straight As? Hell they will donate back what they receive 10fold😬!

Disagree. The demands put on the participants in the minor sports are as much as having full time employment. And it's year round. If you're going to have these sports they should get something.

I do think a two-tier system with bball and fball players getting more would be ok.

Whatever you do, you're going to piss someone off.

 

[Al Bino]

Sure, but not sure with what it is you disagree - not as if a windfall of this order doesn't allow for some innovative/progressive thinking/action. And if not what I described then something else - IU is already sitting on $3.3 billion endowment, chance to do something good, amazing, progressive or maybe even brilliant. Chance to make a (greater) difference.

Would amend my universal 'dividend' notion to something that awards only those students who do service above and beyond fulfilling their academic obligations. Those, e.g., that volunteer community service, get $100 a semester just on general principles to affirm/acknowledge/incentivize their efforts. Those people don't do it for the money, but could easily argue that their 'contributions' or endeavors are of far more value than 'playing games'. Suppose it depends on what one is actually trying to teach/cultivate, eh?

Enough. Mere idle early-morning musing - my point is/was that wealth is not an end in itself, nor synonamous with good/success.

Ok, students get $100 a semester IF they do something beyond academics. What about the kids that have to spend an inordinate amount of time studying to make those grades? Going to apply to med school and the grades only come with LOTS of work. What about kids whose parents are either unwilling or unable to help financially and the student has to work to pay the bills. While a $100 is nice, it doesn't move the meter on paying bills.

IMO, that is the problem with "aspects" of socialism, once incentive is removed, so many people will go to the lowest common denominator. ie, all those that got used to sitting on their ass because money was passed out during the pandemic. I have no problem with helping people who need it but to pass out money just because you have it, IMO, does as much harm as it does good.

 

[B1G_Fan]

Disagree. The demands put on the participants in the minor sports are as much as having full time employment. And it's year round. If you're going to have these sports they should get something.

I do think a two-tier system with bball and fball players getting more would be ok.

Whatever you do, you're going to piss someone off.

The non revenue sports do get something. Free schooling. Free room and board. Free tutors. They don’t need anything else provided by IU.

 

[rikki-tikka-tava]

I'm sure your intentions are honorable, but you lost me on the exclusion of golfers. Am I misreading?

S'alright. The game was lost on me from the very beginning. Am sure it's all very satisfying to those that play, just find it mind-numbingly boring and completely unqualified to be rated as a form of 'athletics'. To give you some idea, occasionally I check final round scores from tour events just to see who choked themselves out of several hundred thousand to as much as a million dollars by having a shit round. Perverse to be sure, probably something of a hangover from past disdain for exclusive country clubs and associated elitist attitudes/privilge.

 

[rikki-tikka-tava]

Ok, students get $100 a semester IF they do something beyond academics. What about the kids that have to spend an inordinate amount of time studying to make those grades? Going to apply to med school and the grades only come with LOTS of work. What about kids whose parents are either unwilling or unable to help financially and the student has to work to pay the bills. While a $100 is nice, it doesn't move the meter on paying bills.

IMO, that is the problem with "aspects" of socialism, once incentive is removed, so many people will go to the lowest common denominator. ie, all those that got used to sitting on their ass because money was passed out during the pandemic. I have no problem with helping people who need it but to pass out money just because you have it, IMO, does as much harm as it does good.

Well Al, am all for supporting pre-med and/or financially disadvantaged families/youth provided they hold up their end of the bargain. Never suggested/implied that $100 represents a solution to poverty, just some recognition/validation/incentive to people that are putting out for community/something other than themselves.

As for your second paragraph, your contention is illogical/spurious - the pandemic checks were not incentives but straight-up handouts that were distributed with little rhyme or reason. However well-intentioned, I'd say mostly they were of negligible impact for the majority of recipients and hardly sufficient to corrupt the work ethic of average Americans if indeed they had such in the first place. Alleging that I was proposing "passing out money just because you have it" is complete BS, as is the contention that society and/or someone who is taking time out of their lives to do community service is going to be corrupted by a few dollars. Also not clear who's "sitting on their ass" post-pandemic given that unemployment is at its lowest point in over 50 years.

 

[hickorytree1]

S'alright. The game was lost on me from the very beginning. Am sure it's all very satisfying to those that play, just find it mind-numbingly boring and completely unqualified to be rated as a form of 'athletics'. To give you some idea, occasionally I check final round scores from tour events just to see who choked themselves out of several hundred thousand to as much as a million dollars by having a shit round. Perverse to be sure, probably something of a hangover from past disdain for exclusive country clubs and associated elitist attitudes/pvilege.

To educate you on this sport, it does take athletic ability to succeed and provide those with such skills an athletic scholarship. I find it odd that, as a liberal (correct?). you find disdain in country club lifestyles and elitist/privileged attitudes.

 

[rikki-tikka-tava]

To educate you on this sport, it does take athletic ability to succeed and provide those with such skills an athletic scholarship. I find it odd that, as a liberal (correct?). you find disdain in country club lifestyles and elitist/privileged attitudes.

Sure it does. If you can equate such with what's required to play BB/FB, can see why it's so easy for you to imagine liberal and privilege/elitism to be inherently linked.

 

[hookyIU1990]

As a result of the ruling that started all this NIL stuff, there's aso already a mechanism in place for schools to pay all student athletes, regardless of sport. $5900 annually starting this academic year and I believe it's based on academic standing and grades. It's just up to the schools to implement at this point.

I know the broilers, shuckers, gophers and bucky have all announced they are doing it.

ETA - Here's a story with some sources for the payments.

NCAA schools falling short on cash-for-grades pay

With colleges allowed to pay each of their athletes up to $5,980 per year as a reward for academic performance, only 22 of 130 FBS-level schools have plans in place to do so, according to information gathered by ESPN.

www.espn.com

 

[frikkenfrakken]

S'alright. The game was lost on me from the very beginning. Am sure it's all very satisfying to those that play, just find it mind-numbingly boring and completely unqualified to be rated as a form of 'athletics'. To give you some idea, occasionally I check final round scores from tour events just to see who choked themselves out of several hundred thousand to as much as a million dollars by having a shit round. Perverse to be sure, probably something of a hangover from past disdain for exclusive country clubs and associated elitist attitudes/privilge.

It is not the least bit satisfying. But it is decent exercise if you can't run, lift, or row.

 

[baileyiu]

The non revenue sports do get something. Free schooling. Free room and board. Free tutors. They don’t need anything else provided by IU.

Not all, I would venture the vast majority of athletes in non-revenue sports are not on full -rides - therefore they are paying at part, if not most of their schooling, room & board

 

[hookyIU1990]

Not all, I would venture the vast majority of athletes in non-revenue sports are not on full -rides - therefore they are paying at part, if not most of their schooling, room & board

Plenty of them aren't even on scholarship, so they're paying full boat less the normal grants and aid they qualify for.

 

[B1G_Fan]

Not all, I would venture the vast majority of athletes in non-revenue sports are not on full -rides - therefore they are paying at part, if not most of their schooling, room & board

Good.

 

[rikki-tikka-tava]

Good.

Have to agree and far from the worst thing to be sure. Do think anyone who wants to go to college and can qualify academically (and maintain a respectable GPA) should be enabled - far more important/constructive than embellishing the experience of those who are already assured of such.

 

[hookyIU1990]

Good.

I honestly don't understand, nor can I fathom, the level of asshattery that's involved to dump on IU's student athletes who participate in the non-revenue/olympic sports.

 

[B1G_Fan]

I honestly don't understand, nor can I fathom, the level of asshattery that's involved to dump on IU's student athletes who participate in the non-revenue/olympic sports.

Not dumping on them. I’m just saying they don’t need more than they already get. Same goes for the football and basketball players (as far as IU giving them more). All IU athletes are able to make their market value from NIL.

 

[hookyIU1990]

Not dumping on them. I’m just saying they don’t need more than they already get. Same goes for the football and basketball players (as far as IU giving them more). All IU athletes are able to make their market value from NIL.

That's not at all what I get out of your comments about non-rev/olympic sport student athletes, but if that's what you meant to say, thanks for the clarification.

 

[.Gerdis]

Call me stupid, but wouldn’t this stipend be at the schools expense? And isn’t all that money in the new NIL pay for play coming from boosters? And aren’t the schools themselves prohibited from paying players?


it was my understanding that when, say TJD, is getting paid hundreds of thousands it is coming from boosters, and not a penny can be from IU (though he still gets a scholarship worth potentially hundreds of thousands)?

people have said that the schools have made money off of the student athletes, and NIL doesn’t seem to change any of that (if I am correct, the schools payroll expense for these athletes is the same pre or post NIL).

So, the free market is compensating these players now. And the schools are just helping accommodate things.

If there is another component, and it is coming from the schools who have tons of revenue, and it is going to all athletes (including those true student athletes that can appreciate any stipend), I’m all for it.

 

[rikki-tikka-tava]

Call me stupid, but wouldn’t this stipend be at the schools expense? And isn’t all that money in the new NIL pay for play coming from boosters? And aren’t the schools themselves prohibited from paying players?


it was my understanding that when, say TJD, is getting paid hundreds of thousands it is coming from boosters, and not a penny can be from IU (though he still gets a scholarship worth potentially hundreds of thousands)?

people have said that the schools have made money off of the student athletes, and NIL doesn’t seem to change any of that (if I am correct, the schools payroll expense for these athletes is the same pre or post NIL).

So, the free market is compensating these players now. And the schools are just helping accommodate things.

If there is another component, and it is coming from the schools who have tons of revenue, and it is going to all athletes (including those true student athletes that can appreciate any stipend), I’m all for it.

NCAA schools falling short on cash-for-grades pay

With colleges allowed to pay each of their athletes up to $5,980 per year as a reward for academic performance, only 22 of 130 FBS-level schools have plans in place to do so, according to information gathered by ESPN.

www.espn.com

In principle believe you're correct, but might not mean there would be anything illegal about IU donating money to Hoosiers for Good and allowing them to do what they do as it relates to NIL Player arrangements. Not as if NIL deals are required to reflect/prove that they have actual value to the 'benefactors,' so while Schools themselves may be prohibited from paying Players (example above notwithstanding), may be ways for them to use intermediaries to compensate athletes.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

What is cable?

Correction….who is cable? 🤣

 

[hickorytree1]

Sure it does. If you can equate such with what's required to play BB/FB, can see why it's so easy for you to imagine liberal and privilege/elitism to be inherently linked.

I didn't equate such sports with golf, although it takes as much skill and dedication to be successful in golf as the others. No argument in differences in the physical aspects of these sports.

 

[abraxis]

Also not clear who's "sitting on their ass" post-pandemic given that unemployment is at its lowest point in over 50 years.

"Unemployment at its lowest point in over 50 years", yet how many business establishments are obviously understaffed, having to provide limited and/or slower service because they can't find help. What's happened here if so many more people are working now, as you claim?

 

[Liberty_Hoosier]

The interest level in sports is diminishing amongst the younger generation. NIL is causing it to wane amongst 20 some to 40 some year olds. College football will be down to 10-12 teams year in and year out based on cash flow. These ppl investing now will eventually subside in certain programs if they do not see results. The competetive balance will be shot. IU basketball has a chance to stay relevant if the results allow it. But god damn im 37 and had the 93 Hoosiers won it would have been so much sweeter if its compared to say a 2033 team based on nil money winning it all. Matt Nover getting a title it so much sweeter than a Montverde kid on a Hoosiers for Good cash grab contract.

 

[IUclover]

I really don’t understand this concept. Correct me if I am wrong, But are you advocating that all the non rev athletes get something in terms of being paid? Not only give them free schooling, facilities, gear, food, and pay for all of their travel…. Let’s pay them too???

Why on earth should you be paying someone to do something they enjoy and no1 else cares about. What good does that do them in the real world? Why don’t we start paying the KSB kids that get straight As? Hell they will donate back what they receive 10fold😬!

Like ten years ago, an IU womens water polo player was being interviewed on the IU student radio station and saying they should be paid their fair share.

All I was thinking was… I didn’t know we had a team, I don’t know who you are, and I guess that’s what going on in the pool when I go to the SRSC on the weekend… with no one watching.

I respect what they do but the fair share thing was a little bit crazy. NIL, sure. Facilities updates, sure. Anything beyond that, leaning no.

 

[B1G_Fan]

"Unemployment at its lowest point in over 50 years", yet how many business establishments are obviously understaffed, having to provide limited and/or slower service because they can't find help. What's happened here if so many more people are working now, as you claim?

Far less people looking for a job, and older people just retired when the Covid shut downs happened.

 

[Al Bino]

Well Al, am all for supporting pre-med and/or financially disadvantaged families/youth provided they hold up their end of the bargain. Never suggested/implied that $100 represents a solution to poverty, just some recognition/validation/incentive to people that are putting out for community/something other than themselves.

As for your second paragraph, your contention is illogical/spurious - the pandemic checks were not incentives but straight-up handouts that were distributed with little rhyme or reason. However well-intentioned, I'd say mostly they were of negligible impact for the majority of recipients and hardly sufficient to corrupt the work ethic of average Americans if indeed they had such in the first place. Alleging that I was proposing "passing out money just because you have it" is complete BS, as is the contention that society and/or someone who is taking time out of their lives to do community service is going to be corrupted by a few dollars. Also not clear who's "sitting on their ass" post-pandemic given that unemployment is at its lowest point in over 50 years.

I didn't say that the pandemic checks were incentives. I said that the money removed the incentive for some to look for a job since money was being handed to them.

The next point was not BS at all. Did you make your argument of giving scholarship athletes money before the windfall mentioned for next media rights contract? And in this thread you stated....

"At nearly $100 million annually per school less overhead/expenses for the Conference, AD and such, a healthy allocation by IU to benefit (pay) all scholarship student-athletes could really boost IU in all competitive sports."

No interpretation necessary. To paraphrase but IMO not much interpretation is needed, IU will have the money so give the athletes some of it.

You do realize that the unemployment rate is only people looking for work. The true unemployment rate is MUCH higher than government figures.

America's 'true unemployment' rate may be a lot higher than you think

The headline unemployment figure is artificially depressed by excluding people who might only be earning a few dollars a week, but who want to find full-time work.

www.foxbusiness.com

 

[rikki-tikka-tava]

"Unemployment at its lowest point in over 50 years", yet how many business establishments are obviously understaffed, having to provide limited and/or slower service because they can't find help. What's happened here if so many more people are working now, as you claim?

Perhaps people no longer feel like working for crap pay and no benefits. Not like all those folks jumped on welfare or are living off their dividend checks. If you know the answer pray tell...

 

[rikki-tikka-tava]

I didn't say that the pandemic checks were incentives. I said that the money removed the incentive for some to look for a job since money was being handed to them.

The next point was not BS at all. Did you make your argument of giving scholarship athletes money before the windfall mentioned for next media rights contract? And in this thread you stated....

"At nearly $100 million annually per school less overhead/expenses for the Conference, AD and such, a healthy allocation by IU to benefit (pay) all scholarship student-athletes could really boost IU in all competitive sports."

No interpretation necessary. To paraphrase but IMO not much interpretation is needed, IU will have the money so give the athletes some of it.

You do realize that the unemployment rate is only people looking for work. The true unemployment rate is MUCH higher than government figures.

America's 'true unemployment' rate may be a lot higher than you think

The headline unemployment figure is artificially depressed by excluding people who might only be earning a few dollars a week, but who want to find full-time work.

www.foxbusiness.com

And just how long do you imagine $2200 lasts? Since I cited a published estimate for the media value, it's obvious I posed the idea after hearing about the 'windfall', not that I have any idea what difference it makes. So yeah, if there's an extra $100 million + coming in each year and IU wants to boost the talent level across all DI athletics, distributing even a fraction of that amount among to athletes in sports other than BB & FB could seriously elevate recruiting and presumably performance.

BS was you claiming that hitherto working adults suddenly became hopelessly corrupted and irrevocably lazy because they got a couple of checks from the government. BS was you putting words in my mouth by claiming I was advocating "passing out money just because you have it".

As for 'true' unemployment figures, they're not the issue here, are extremely subjective, imagine they haven't been used by any US Administration for decades, and the source for your citation is, wait for it....FOX Noose. As there is no greater source of BS in the world save for perhaps Tass and Xinhua, I withdraw. Have a great weekend.

 

[B1G_Fan]

Perhaps people no longer feel like working for crap pay and no benefits. Not like all those folks jumped on welfare or are living off their dividend checks. If you know the answer pray tell...

The answer is simple. Big corporations are starting to replace their workforce with robots. Prior to selling my company we implemented two dark warehouses (fully automated picking/packing) for two of our clients and we had at least 3 other clients looking to do the same.

Each of these warehouses had over 100 positions eliminated. The owners didn’t want to do this, but they couldn’t afford to keep running short staffed.

You will see this in the fast food industry as well. Already some fast food restaurants have implemented self checkout and virtual checkout systems.

 

[rikki-tikka-tava]

The answer is simple. Big corporations are starting to replace their workforce with robots. Prior to selling my company we implemented two dark warehouses (fully automated picking/packing) for two of our clients and we had at least 3 other clients looking to do the same.

Each of these warehouses had over 100 positions eliminated. The owners didn’t want to do this, but they couldn’t afford to keep running short staffed.

You will see this in the fast food industry as well. Already some fast food restaurants have implemented self checkout and virtual checkout systems.

Seems that would raise rather than lower unemployment, neh? Whatever - like most else, there are likely a number of factors that shape/determine the why of a thing as opposed to a single simplistic reason. Not going to spend any more time on this but thanks for playing.

 

[B1G_Fan]

Seems that would raise rather than lower unemployment, neh? Whatever - like most else, there are likely a number of factors that shape/determine the why of a thing as opposed to a single simplistic reason. Not going to spend any more time on this but thanks for playing.

I thought you were asking how to fill the open positions caused by the worker shortage.