Fred/IU/Director's Cup Rankings

[mushroomgod_1]

For future arguments concerning Fred's impact......I looked at final Director's Cup ratings back to 2003-04, which is all I could pull up.

IU's rankings were:

'04--40
'05--40
'06--38
'07--50
'08--39
'09--55
'10--43
'11--28
'12--38
'13--32
'14--36
'15--61
'16--41
'17--47
'18--49
'19--32

The 5 years before Fred avg. 41.4. The 11 years since '08-'09 (Fred's era)avg. 42.

Here's what all the Big 10 teams avg. over those 16 years:

1. Michigan--9.1
2. OSU--9.3
3. PSU--12.8
4. Minnesota--21.6
5. Wisconsin--22.6
6. Nebraska--30.8
7. Maryland--35.8
8. MSU--36.4
9. Illinois--36.7
10. IU--41.8
10. Northwestern--41.8
12. Purdue--44.2
13. Iowa--52.6
14. Rugers--96.6

 

[mcmurtry66]

For future arguments concerning Fred's impact......I looked at final Director's Cup ratings back to 2003-04, which is all I could pull up.

IU's rankings were:

'04--40
'05--40
'06--38
'07--50
'08--39
'09--55
'10--43
'11--28
'12--38
'13--32
'14--36
'15--61
'16--41
'17--47
'18--49
'19--32

The 5 years before Fred avg. 41.4. The 11 years since '08-'09 (Fred's era)avg. 42.

Here's what all the Big 10 teams avg. over those 16 years:

1. Michigan--9.1
2. OSU--9.3
3. PSU--12.8
4. Minnesota--21.6
5. Wisconsin--22.6
6. Nebraska--30.8
7. Maryland--35.8
8. MSU--36.4
9. Illinois--36.7
10. IU--41.8
10. Northwestern--41.8
12. Purdue--44.2
13. Iowa--52.6
14. Rugers--96.6

If you look at monies spent as predicting success, osu, mi, and psu, are right where one would expect. maryland and minny overachieve, iowa underachieves. We should be around 8/9, which i guess we are. A little underachieving relative to other big ten schools but not too much.

 

[minneman]

For future arguments concerning Fred's impact......I looked at final Director's Cup ratings back to 2003-04, which is all I could pull up.

IU's rankings were:

'04--40
'05--40
'06--38
'07--50
'08--39
'09--55
'10--43
'11--28
'12--38
'13--32
'14--36
'15--61
'16--41
'17--47
'18--49
'19--32

The 5 years before Fred avg. 41.4. The 11 years since '08-'09 (Fred's era)avg. 42.

Here's what all the Big 10 teams avg. over those 16 years:

1. Michigan--9.1
2. OSU--9.3
3. PSU--12.8
4. Minnesota--21.6
5. Wisconsin--22.6
6. Nebraska--30.8
7. Maryland--35.8
8. MSU--36.4
9. Illinois--36.7
10. IU--41.8
10. Northwestern--41.8
12. Purdue--44.2
13. Iowa--52.6
14. Rugers--96.6

The second list should be looked at by the people who say, "IU is a basketball school so who cares if the football team sucks?" Football success does have an impact on all other sports since it brings in so much money. It's no coincidence that MSU, OSU, and PSU are not only at the top of the B1G yearly but are annually some of the best in the county in this competition.

IU actually performs well in this competition considering it is one the worst football programs in D1 history. I hope the next AD puts more emphasis not only on basketball but also football.

 

[mushroomgod_1]

If you look at monies spent as predicting success, osu, mi, and psu, are right where one would expect. maryland and minny overachieve, iowa underachieves. We should be around 8/9, which i guess we are. A little underachieving relative to other big ten schools but not too much.

2017-18 total revenues, per USA Today (rounded):

#3 OSU $206,000,000...........#2 avg DC for the 16 years (in BT)
#4 Michigan 196,000,000........#1
#9 PSU 165,000,000...........#3
#11 Wisconsin 150,000,000.......#5
#13 MSU 146,000,000...........#8
#16 Nebraska 142,000,000........#6
#18 Iowa 137,000,000...........#13
#24 Minnesota 125,000,000.......#4
#25 Indiana 123,000,000...........#10
#28 Illinois 115,000,000...........#9
#36 Purdue 103,000,000..........#12
#38 Rutgers 101,000,000..........#14
#40 Maryland 98,000,000...........#7

Comments:

NW's #s were not made public, as it's a private school; Some schools, most notably Rutgers, and perhaps Maryland, are subsidized by student fees or from the U directly; the gap between IU and Purdue is large, but Purdue sponsors 4-5 fewer sports than IU....as I recall, 18 v. 23?; RU's facilities are a big drag on their programs; obviously #s may vary some year to year, esp. based on giving in a particular year.