Florida Gators use of analytics

[jacksback]

How Florida Built Final Four Roster With ‘Under-Recruited’ Players

In a state that leans heavily on NIL, the men’s basketball roster came together using strategic analytics and the transfer portal instead.

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Interesting article on Florida's moneyball approach to building a roster. I assume everyone is trying to do this to a certain extent but I actually laughed at the thought of Woody using analytics. He would be one of the old scouts at the table in Moneyball telling Billy Bean and his numbers guru that they didn't know jack squat about picking players! Lol.

 

[IUNorth]

How Florida Built Final Four Roster With ‘Under-Recruited’ Players

In a state that leans heavily on NIL, the men’s basketball roster came together using strategic analytics and the transfer portal instead.

frontofficesports.com

Interesting article on Florida's moneyball approach to building a roster. I assume everyone is trying to do this to a certain extent but I actually laughed at the thought of Woody using analytics. He would be one of the old scouts at the table in Moneyball telling Billy Bean and his numbers guru that they didn't know jack squat about picking players! Lol.

Man, I guess I just kind of assumed every program used this type of information in some capacity these days?? Anyone that's ignoring it, at this point, is F-ing dumb. I'd probably fire a coach if I were an AD and knew they weren't utilizing analytics heavily.

 

[OpenWheels]

... He would be one of the old scouts at the table in Moneyball telling Billy Bean and his numbers guru that they didn't know jack squat about picking players! Lol.

I'd still be OK with us getting the recruits with the hottest girlfriends, showing they have confidence.
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[T.M.P.]

Man, I guess I just kind of assumed every program used this type of information in some capacity these days?? Anyone that's ignoring it, at this point, is F-ing dumb. I'd probably fire a coach if I were an AD and knew they weren't utilizing analytics heavily.

There's a lot of coaches that ignore it to some degree. Especially old school guys who would rather use the eye test.

Sampson uses it, but then plays over aggressive defense and two bigs that can't shoot. The spacing by Houston last night reminded me of IU in half court. It was horrible.

Crean said he used +/- to gauge opponent weaknesses, which basically means he had no clue. Miller laughed them off .. I doubt he took them seriously.

 

[IUNorth]

There's a lot of coaches that ignore it to some degree. Especially old school guys who would rather use the eye test.

Sampson uses it, but then plays over aggressive defense and two bigs that can't shoot. The spacing by Houston last night reminded me of IU in half court.

Crean said he used +/- to gauge opponent weaknesses, which basically means he had no clue. Miller laughed them off .. I doubt he took them seriously.

I'm sure you're right...but it just seems like it should be universally accepted, in some degree, at this point. There's not a single professional sports franchise, I'm sure, that doesn't heavily utilize analytics.

Obviously what you do with the information is the most important thing...I'm sure its not easy for guys like Sampson to go against years of experiences and intuition. Pride, especially with higher achieving, older, guys like Sampson...can get in the way of necessary progress, obviously.

One of the more annoying things about Woodson's era, to me, was what sure seemed like an uneven utilization of analytics. He wasn't afraid to adjust lineups, bench "stars", etc... which points to him keeping an eye on what the numbers were saying... but then he was beyond stubborn with things like his "nail" defense, and running post centric stuff through 2 bigs. The info HAD to be there. I was providing my kindergarten versions of it since about 2 weeks in to his IU tenure.

My understanding is Coach DeVries is much more involved and accepting of the modern approaches. That'll be refreshing.

 

[jsig]

I'd still be OK with us getting the recruits with the hottest girlfriends, showing they have confidence.
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Would it be a scandal to have coaches scouting HS girls?

 

[ams66]

I'd still be OK with us getting the recruits with the hottest girlfriends, showing they have confidence.
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They are high maintenance, need guys focused on basketball.

 

[OpenWheels]

Would it be a scandal to have coaches scouting HS girls?

I was thinking portal with the joke, wives and girlfriends. So at least college aged. But yeah probably.

 

[Nate Comp]

Can’t understate the importance of roster continuity in roster construction as well - despite the NIL/transfer portal cloud that dominates the conversation.

 

[OpenWheels]

They are high maintenance, need guys focused on basketball.

Modern analytics likely proves you correct. In Moneyball, that guy was old school.

 

[hookyIU1990]

I'm sure you're right...but it just seems like it should be universally accepted, in some degree, at this point. There's not a single professional sports franchise, I'm sure, that doesn't heavily utilize analytics.

Obviously what you do with the information is the most important thing...I'm sure its not easy for guys like Sampson to go against years of experiences and intuition. Pride, especially with higher achieving, older, guys like Sampson...can get in the way of necessary progress, obviously.

One of the more annoying things about Woodson's era, to me, was what sure seemed like an uneven utilization of analytics. He wasn't afraid to adjust lineups, bench "stars", etc... which points to him keeping an eye on what the numbers were saying... but then he was beyond stubborn with things like his "nail" defense, and running post centric stuff through 2 bigs. The info HAD to be there. I was providing my kindergarten versions of it since about 2 weeks in to his IU tenure.

My understanding is Coach DeVries is much more involved and accepting of the modern approaches. That'll be refreshing.

You can't be blind to what you're seeing in real time. There are still situations where a coach has to trust his gut, but to just outright ignore advanced analytics is freaking stupid. That has to be the underpinning of what you do with the option to freelance off of that base of knowledge.

 

[4IUSox2]

Woody don’t abide by no analytics!!

 

[TR32]

Building a roster, yes. But major luck and very little help from Todd not so Golden in more than one game.

Stephen Curry junior looked like Justin Smith for most of the game in that final. Last I checked you aren't required to keep shooting 30 footers throughout the game.
I'd give even Woodson a better chance to come up with something different. Refs bailed them out by calling the 2nd half much tighter.

Against TTU it was a different story- Florida just shot their way out of it, but it was another case where their plan nearly failed.

I don't think they will be able to replicate the recruiting success as often as Calipari did at UK.

 

[T.M.P.]

Building a roster, yes. But major luck and very little help from Todd not so Golden in more than one game.

Stephen Curry junior looked like Justin Smith for most of the game in that final. Last I checked you aren't required to keep shooting 30 footers throughout the game.
I'd give even Woodson a better chance to come up with something different. Refs bailed them out by calling the 2nd half much tighter.

Against TTU it was a different story- Florida just shot their way out of it, but it was another case where their plan nearly failed.

I don't think they will be able to replicate the recruiting success as often as Calipari did at UK.

You're obviously biased. Did Clayton and Golden screw your wife or something.

 

[CriticArisen]

I love analytics but at the same time Daryl Morey has always been the most analytic oriented exec in the NBA and has never won a championship. He was a championship bust with the Rockets and now with the 76ers. He modified statistical measures developed for use in basketball (from baseball) to estimate team overperformance vs underperformance. To me that’s the magic sauce an elite coach brings to the table, being able to develop a team that outperforms the sum of the parts and overperforming the analytics. If this season is an indication Net and Pom rankings are becoming very good at predicting performance in the tournament with very few upsets vs seeding.

I read about a study in the NFL a few years back (maybe it has changed now) that compared pre analytics draft choices with draft choices when analytics were heavily used in draft sssessments. They looked at percentage of first round choices made all pro and maybe HOF (don’t remember about HOF). Their conclusion was when draft decisions was based purely on eyeball evaluation by scouts the drafting was more successful.

 

[Orbit7958]

How Florida Built Final Four Roster With ‘Under-Recruited’ Players

In a state that leans heavily on NIL, the men’s basketball roster came together using strategic analytics and the transfer portal instead.

frontofficesports.com

Interesting article on Florida's moneyball approach to building a roster. I assume everyone is trying to do this to a certain extent but I actually laughed at the thought of Woody using analytics. He would be one of the old scouts at the table in Moneyball telling Billy Bean and his numbers guru that they didn't know jack squat about picking players!

iu is all about selling candystripes, so how a player looks wearing them is most important