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My question is why didn’t AD start? McBob really hurts them offensively. Sometimes you need skill. Hustle just isn’t enough.

7 boards, 3 steals. Those are possessions that give a team more chances to score. If his teammate scores after he gets a steal it is just the same as if he scored.

McRoberts, especially when he hits, is an asset. I will keep defending him so long as I see him doing things that help.
 
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7 boards, 3 steals. Those are possessions that give a team more chances to score. If his teammate scores after he gets a steal it is just the same as if he scored.

McRoberts, especially when he hits, is an asset. I will keep defending him so long as I see him doing things that help.
Not having to guard someone really tightens things up for players like RL getting to the rim.
 
Like i said once before there was a reason fitzner did not start at st.marys and only averaged 4 a game.
 
Fitzner helped IU defeat Marquette. That may be his highlight reel in an IU uniform
 
My question is why didn’t AD start? McBob really hurts them offensively. Sometimes you need skill. Hustle just isn’t enough.

I hate the three guard lineup.

Hated it last year and hate it this year.

Our best lineup last year was Green, Johnson, McBob, Smith and Morgan.

I would think switching out Green/Newkirk with Phinesse and Robert Johnson with Romeo would have been an upgrade.

We haven't seen that lineup until Purdue.

Hope we go back.
 
7 boards, 3 steals. Those are possessions that give a team more chances to score. If his teammate scores after he gets a steal it is just the same as if he scored.

McRoberts, especially when he hits, is an asset. I will keep defending him so long as I see him doing things that help.
I also don't remember an early possession turnover. I'll start anyone that can make a basket or get the ball to someone that can score without turning the ball over.
 
I hate the three guard lineup.

Hated it last year and hate it this year.

Our best lineup last year was Green, Johnson, McBob, Smith and Morgan.

I would think switching out Green/Newkirk with Phinesse and Robert Johnson with Romeo would have been an upgrade.

We haven't seen that lineup until Purdue.

Hope we go back.
Painter dropping back and protecting the lane is something we will see more of in conference play. We don't shoot that well and having McBob in the game reduces the number of outside threats. I still want to start McBob. We need heart and hustle. He brings both on most nights when healthy. We can bring shooters off the bench if we need to.
 
Painter dropping back and protecting the lane is something we will see more of in conference play. We don't shoot that well and having McBob in the game reduces the number of outside threats. I still want to start McBob. We need heart and hustle. He brings both on most nights when healthy. We can bring shooters off the bench if we need to.

No offense to Al, he's really stepped up his shooting this year. He's probably our most reliable three point threat right now.

But I watched the 3 guard/2 guard sets and again the 3 guard got killed. Basically we don't rebound anything or get any 50/50 balls. I know Archie sends everyone back after we take a shot but McBob (or someone taller than 6'3") grabs more boards and with McBob he does play defense, goes after 50/50 balls, gets steals and like you said raises the energy level.

Plus I also like having Green and Durham available off the bench so we have some scoring in our second unit.

In my perfect world my lineup is Rob, Romeo, McBob, Smith and Morgan.

2nd is Green, Durham, Fitzner, Damezi, Davis/Moore.

A lineup of Green, Durham, Fitzner and Davis should be at least a threat. Of course some games you just go to Durham, Green and Davis.

I think McBob can complement Romeo and Juwan.

I also don't think it matters much if McBob can stretch the floor....no one on our team can. Plus Romeo doesn't play off the ball well at all. He tends to watch the paint dry away from the ball, not getting open like a kid who had the ball in his hand exclusively all his life.
 
Nope. I just know there are candidates who do.

You stay on the Crean path if you’d like.
Crean path 1-1/2 years in - with a challenged roster. :rolleyes:

You ever figure out how we were defending the high ball screen? You ever gonna answer that for @TMP? Pretty bad when Tom Crean knows more about how to attack the Syracuse zone that you do on basic defensive concepts.
 
Crean path 1-1/2 years in - with a challenged roster. :rolleyes:

You ever figure out how we were defending the high ball screen? You ever gonna answer that for @TMP? Pretty bad when Tom Crean knows more about how to attack the Syracuse zone that you do on basic defensive concepts.
Are you saying you know more about coaching than Tom Crean? If so I suggest you leave the parents basement and go make $3 million like he does.
 
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Are you saying you know more about coaching than Tom Crean? If so I suggest you leave the parents basement and go make $3 million like he does.
I take that as a NO that you haven’t a clue how we defended the high ball screen. Not surprising.
 
I take that as a NO that you haven’t a clue how we defended the high ball screen. Not surprising.
You insisting that guarding the screen is a science and not an art tells me everything I need to know. If there was just one way to always guard it no one would be running it. Get a clue man.
 
7 boards, 3 steals. Those are possessions that give a team more chances to score. If his teammate scores after he gets a steal it is just the same as if he scored.

McRoberts, especially when he hits, is an asset. I will keep defending him so long as I see him doing things that help.
Do not think you are seeing clearly now.
 
Looking at Fitzner's career stats, it is uncanny. In most categories, his productivity has steadily declined over his 4 years. I don't think I've ever seen that before.

Nearly every category. Crazy.
 
I don't want to see McRoberts starting defenses know he won't shoot Morgan gets doubled and so does Romeo because he can't score. I would start Durham we need a fast start seems like were always down big early..
 
You insisting that guarding the screen is a science and not an art tells me everything I need to know. If there was just one way to always guard it no one would be running it. Get a clue man.

Never said any such thing.

Here - since you can’t remember all the psycho-babble you spew out - is the discussion:

Same exact things were said about Crean.

If you can’t notice his teams come out flat and play uninspired I can’t help you.

If you can’t see his offense is stagnant and never takes advantage of mismatches I can’t help you.

If you can’t see the lack of adjustments, no out of bounds sets, questionable substitutions...again, no one can help you.

Some of us know better. Calling us morons is incredibly ironic.

“Some of us know better” - clearly trying to portray yourself (and others, although you don’t say who) as someone with a keen intellect of the game that you see all the issues that plague this team.

So @T.M.P. called you on it:

This should be fun .. vbg .. hey @twenty watch this .. this dude is a complete joke.

So, tell us about "adjustments" .. using examples and some detail. Let's start with something real simple. The way we guarded the high ball screen. What went wrong and what should IU have done. And please note which plays were a player mistake vs a coaching strategy mistake..

Coach Dunning Kruger, you are now in the spotlight..........

He only picked out one of the many things you claim to see. ONE. Made it extremely simple for you, too.

And he didn’t ask for the science of how defense is constructed. Didn’t ask how many different ways the high screen could be guarded. He asked - simply - how Indiana guarded the high ball screen. Period.

YOU were the one claiming a lack of adjustments. No one made you say that, made you put yourself out there like some basketball savant.

Back up what you say.

You said there were a lack of adjustments? Really - what were they?

You say “his offense is stagnant and never takes advantage of mismatches”, please enlighten us.

Here’s your chance - again. Are you gonna provide something of substance to lend credibility to what you said? Or continue down the path of a Dunning Kruger - the person who thinks they have far superior knowledge when actually they prove themselves to be incredibly inept? I’m guessing you’re gonna choose the latter but, hey, prove me (and others) wrong. All yours, chief.
 
Never said any such thing.

Here - since you can’t remember all the psycho-babble you spew out - is the discussion:



“Some of us know better” - clearly trying to portray yourself (and others, although you don’t say who) as someone with a keen intellect of the game that you see all the issues that plague this team.

So @T.M.P. called you on it:



He only picked out one of the many things you claim to see. ONE. Made it extremely simple for you, too.

And he didn’t ask for the science of how defense is constructed. Didn’t ask how many different ways the high screen could be guarded. He asked - simply - how Indiana guarded the high ball screen. Period.

YOU were the one claiming a lack of adjustments. No one made you say that, made you put yourself out there like some basketball savant.

Back up what you say.

You said there were a lack of adjustments? Really - what were they?

You say “his offense is stagnant and never takes advantage of mismatches”, please enlighten us.

Here’s your chance - again. Are you gonna provide something of substance to lend credibility to what you said? Or continue down the path of a Dunning Kruger - the person who thinks they have far superior knowledge when actually they prove themselves to be incredibly inept? I’m guessing you’re gonna choose the latter but, hey, prove me (and others) wrong. All yours, chief.
The Dunning Kruger effect is incredibly ironic in this situation. Look how long that post was haha. Do your parents know you’re using the internet unsupervised again?
 
The Dunning Kruger effect is incredibly ironic in this situation. Look how long that post was haha. Do your parents know you’re using the internet unsupervised again?
Again, will take that as a NO.

Not surprised. You Dunning Krugers have no clue as to how easily you show your stripes.
 
Why don’t you waste your time and enlighten everyone then.
Again - since you have difficulty staying with the discussion - here is what YOU said:

Same exact things were said about Crean.

If you can’t notice his teams come out flat and play uninspired I can’t help you.

If you can’t see his offense is stagnant and never takes advantage of mismatches I can’t help you.

If you can’t see the lack of adjustments, no out of bounds sets, questionable substitutions...again, no one can help you.

Some of us know better. Calling us morons is incredibly ironic.

You said all of these things. No one forced you to. Then, to cap it off, you end it with “some of us know better.”

Really? Then tell us. This ought to be incredibly easy for a savant like you. I mean, hell, this is English 101 - writing with a theses. Make a statement (Archie doesn’t make adjustments) and give 3 examples to support your statement.

When I made my comments about how Crean likely wasn’t the guy to win us a championship, I gave specific evidence to support my position. This ball is in your court. You still gonna be Coach Dunning Kruger? If you have even a modicum of basketball knowledge you’ll be able to discuss Archie’s alleged “lack of adjustments”.

Have at it, CDK.
 
I hate the three guard lineup.

Hated it last year and hate it this year.

Our best lineup last year was Green, Johnson, McBob, Smith and Morgan.

I would think switching out Green/Newkirk with Phinesse and Robert Johnson with Romeo would have been an upgrade.

We haven't seen that lineup until Purdue.

Hope we go back.


I love a 3 guard lineup.....if you have 3 good guards. We don't.
 
Looking at Fitzner's career stats, it is uncanny. In most categories, his productivity has steadily declined over his 4 years. I don't think I've ever seen that before.

Nearly every category. Crazy.

The fact that some posters thought a guy who averaged 4 points a game at St. Mary's would start at IU still is a head scratcher to me. I remember some people were so excited about him and I just never got it.
 
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