Fauci Lied People Died

[mcmurtry66]

"They drafted a paper suggesting a natural evolution, but even among themselves, they could not agree on the likeliest scenario. "

why would fauci do that? if it's unknown, blocked by obstacles, spoliation, politicized why take that leap. Next time just let the eye doctor from the commonwealth ask the questions. i can't believe fauci got a documentary.

Toxic: How the search for the origins of COVID-19 turned politically poisonous

The Chinese government froze meaningful efforts to trace the origins of the coronavirus pandemic, despite publicly declaring that it supported an open scientific inquiry, an Associated Press investigation has found

abcnews.go.com

 

[NewGuyToTheBoard]

Sorry ABC News. Not good enough.

These mainstream outlets coming out years after the fact and equivocating.

"It was a confusing and scary time, no one knew what was going on"

Publishing all this evidence of Chinese concealment years after the fact. Where was this curiosity at the time?

Instead we got slurs. "Conspiracy theorist!" "Anti-vaxers!" "Racist!"

A total unquestioning, defense of the American Medical establishment and denigration of anyone that stood in the way of its preferred response.

When faced with a potential calamity, their response was to back those willing to turn the authoritarian up to 100. And they should never be forgiven for that.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Sorry ABC News. Not good enough.

These mainstream outlets coming out years after the fact and equivocating.

"It was a confusing and scary time, no one knew what was going on"

Publishing all this evidence of Chinese concealment years after the fact. Where was this curiosity at the time?

Instead we got slurs. "Conspiracy theorist!" "Anti-vaxers!" "Racist!"

A total unquestioning, defense of the American Medical establishment and denigration of anyone that stood in the way of its preferred response.

When faced with a calamity, their response was to back those willing to turn the authoritarian up to 100. And they should never be forgiven for that.

Yep

 

[NewGuyToTheBoard]

"They drafted a paper suggesting a natural evolution, but even among themselves, they could not agree on the likeliest scenario. "

why would fauci do that? if it's unknown, blocked by obstacles, spoliation, politicized why take that leap. Next time just let the eye doctor from the commonwealth ask the questions. i can't believe fauci got a documentary.

Toxic: How the search for the origins of COVID-19 turned politically poisonous

The Chinese government froze meaningful efforts to trace the origins of the coronavirus pandemic, despite publicly declaring that it supported an open scientific inquiry, an Associated Press investigation has found

abcnews.go.com

And I assume you’re being facetious and know exactly why they did that. Fauci’s NIH was funding this lab in a round about way and he knew that immediately.

This evil bastard spent the entire pandemic playing CYA. Even willing to try and discredit and destroy the careers of other scientists in the process.

What a piece of shit. No wonder OS idolizes him.

 

[DDE-6-20-23]

Sorry ABC News. Not good enough.

These mainstream outlets coming out years after the fact and equivocating.

"It was a confusing and scary time, no one knew what was going on"

Publishing all this evidence of Chinese concealment years after the fact. Where was this curiosity at the time?

Instead we got slurs. "Conspiracy theorist!" "Anti-vaxers!" "Racist!"

A total unquestioning, defense of the American Medical establishment and denigration of anyone that stood in the way of its preferred response.

When faced with a calamity, their response was to back those willing to turn the authoritarian up to 100. And they should never be forgiven for that.

Anyone with "half" a brain knew something was up, but don't try and preach that. Many bought in 100% what they were "told". So much so WE walk around outside these days and see people fully masked up. SMH.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Anyone with "half" a brain knew something was up, but don't try and preach that. Many bought in 100% what they were "told". So much so WE walk around outside these days and see people fully naked up. SMH.

Trump propping fauci up with such a prominent role was a major failure

 

[DDE-6-20-23]

And I assume you’re being facetious and know exactly why they did that. Fauci’s NIH was funding this lab in a round about way and he knew that immediately.

This evil bastard spent the entire pandemic playing CYA. Even willing to try and discredit and destroy the careers of other scientists in the process.

What a piece of shit. No wonder OS idolizes him.

Damn straight he did and he ruined everyone that went against. Remember the phone call, Bob Redfield was telling it like it is and Fauci clearly interfered and created an entire narrative.

 

[NewGuyToTheBoard]

Trump propping fauci up with such a prominent role was a major failure

As much as Trump critics consider him a rogue that won’t listen to anybody. During Covid it’s listening to people that did him in.

He took Xi’s assurances at face value. He let Fauci call the shots.

And he didn’t realize he had been bamboozled until it was too late.

 

[DDE-6-20-23]

Trump propping fauci up with such a prominent role was a major failure

Lots of funny stuff going on during all that I cannot hold Trump accountable for the Fauci crap. You want a complete and clear picture? Even from back then? Put this guy on the stand. He's probably already been gotten too and I'm shocked he is still walking.

 

[mcmurtry66]

As much as Trump critics consider him a rogue that won’t listen to anybody. During Covid it’s listening to people that did him in.

He took Xi’s assurances at face value. He let Fauci call the shots.

And he didn’t realize he had been bamboozled until it was too late.

Exactly

 

[larsIU]

Hindsight even better than 20/20 in this thread.

Also, just from a CYA perspective, our "ban" on gain of function research had literally just ended in 2018 so we (the US) probably ramped that shit back up. Was that being done in Wuhan for the WHO? Maybe/probably.

Was our assertion that COVID didn't emanate from a lab our effort to cover up the work we (again, the US) were doing in this field?

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

"They drafted a paper suggesting a natural evolution, but even among themselves, they could not agree on the likeliest scenario. "

why would fauci do that? if it's unknown, blocked by obstacles, spoliation, politicized why take that leap. Next time just let the eye doctor from the commonwealth ask the questions. i can't believe fauci got a documentary.

Toxic: How the search for the origins of COVID-19 turned politically poisonous

The Chinese government froze meaningful efforts to trace the origins of the coronavirus pandemic, despite publicly declaring that it supported an open scientific inquiry, an Associated Press investigation has found

abcnews.go.com

That's an interesting article, but it's hard to fathom how you get your hot take from it.

 

[NewGuyToTheBoard]

That's an interesting article, but it's hard to fathom how you get your hot take from it.

What's the hot take? That Fauci lied?

 

[mcmurtry66]

That's an interesting article, but it's hard to fathom how you get your hot take from it.

It’s just branding

 

[CO. Hoosier]

"They drafted a paper suggesting a natural evolution, but even among themselves, they could not agree on the likeliest scenario. "

why would fauci do that? if it's unknown, blocked by obstacles, spoliation, politicized why take that leap. Next time just let the eye doctor from the commonwealth ask the questions. i can't believe fauci got a documentary.

Toxic: How the search for the origins of COVID-19 turned politically poisonous

The Chinese government froze meaningful efforts to trace the origins of the coronavirus pandemic, despite publicly declaring that it supported an open scientific inquiry, an Associated Press investigation has found

abcnews.go.com

It was clear from the get go that China was covering up. What wasn’t so clear was Fauci’s collaboration. As soon as Trump said “China virus” the democrats and the media pounced and politicized the the pandemic. Fauci quickly became the Democrat good guy.

The whole pandemic response, especially considering all the “emergency” election leniency measures were a product of an absent press and an unaccountable, unelected, and in some cases, corrupted government.

 

[BradStevens]

"They drafted a paper suggesting a natural evolution, but even among themselves, they could not agree on the likeliest scenario. "

why would fauci do that? if it's unknown, blocked by obstacles, spoliation, politicized why take that leap. Next time just let the eye doctor from the commonwealth ask the questions. i can't believe fauci got a documentary.

Toxic: How the search for the origins of COVID-19 turned politically poisonous

The Chinese government froze meaningful efforts to trace the origins of the coronavirus pandemic, despite publicly declaring that it supported an open scientific inquiry, an Associated Press investigation has found

abcnews.go.com

The blame game, etc. is interesting and the response to legitimate scientific inquiry in 2020-23 should be concerning to everyone.

But the most important aspect of this whole issue is here:

. . . WHO chief Tedros said that it was “premature” to rule out the lab leak theory, saying such lab accidents were “common,” and pressed China to be more transparent."

If lab leaks are common and we have the tech to modify viruses to make them more deadly, we need to have a world-wide treaty on how to handle these things regardless of covid's origins. There is no containing an outbreak in today's world.

To me, this issue is now as important as nuclear proliferation.

 

[mcmurtry66]

The blame game, etc. is interesting and the response to legitimate scientific inquiry in 2020-23 should be concerning to everyone.

But the most important aspect of this whole issue is here:

. . . WHO chief Tedros said that it was “premature” to rule out the lab leak theory, saying such lab accidents were “common,” and pressed China to be more transparent."

If lab leaks are common and we have the tech to modify viruses to make them more deadly, we need to have a world-wide treaty on how to handle these things regardless of covid's origins. There is no containing an outbreak in today's world.

To me, this issue is now as important as nuclear proliferation.

Co-sign.

 

[duvallj]

"They drafted a paper suggesting a natural evolution, but even among themselves, they could not agree on the likeliest scenario. "

why would fauci do that? if it's unknown, blocked by obstacles, spoliation, politicized why take that leap. Next time just let the eye doctor from the commonwealth ask the questions. i can't believe fauci got a documentary.

Toxic: How the search for the origins of COVID-19 turned politically poisonous

The Chinese government froze meaningful efforts to trace the origins of the coronavirus pandemic, despite publicly declaring that it supported an open scientific inquiry, an Associated Press investigation has found

abcnews.go.com

Keep politics off The Hoosier.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Keep politics off The Hoosier.

okay. agreed. do you like soccer? relationship talk?

 

[mattndallas]

okay. agreed. do you like soccer? relationship talk?

 

[DDE-6-20-23]

 

[hoot1]

"They drafted a paper suggesting a natural evolution, but even among themselves, they could not agree on the likeliest scenario. "

why would fauci do that? if it's unknown, blocked by obstacles, spoliation, politicized why take that leap. Next time just let the eye doctor from the commonwealth ask the questions. i can't believe fauci got a documentary.

Toxic: How the search for the origins of COVID-19 turned politically poisonous

The Chinese government froze meaningful efforts to trace the origins of the coronavirus pandemic, despite publicly declaring that it supported an open scientific inquiry, an Associated Press investigation has found

abcnews.go.com

IMO a potential viral pandemic should be considered as being a threat to our national security.

A threat with which we should be prepared to respond just like a nuclear, chemical, or biological attack from an adversary.

Once under attack the important consideration should be how to respond and save lives. This requires having a plan to respond already in place. A plan to which all Americans are in agreement.

Not having a plan and turning the response into a political squabble is simply suicidal in my opinion.

So here we are as a country having faced what could have been a biological attack, and we still are playing politics over what our response should have been.

As to Fauci, did he lie, or did he do the best he could with what he knew ?

Now with hindsight and having experienced the attack what as a nation is our plan for a similar attack ?

 

[mcmurtry66]

IMO a potential viral pandemic should be considered as being a threat to our national security.

A threat with which we should be prepared to respond just like a nuclear, chemical, or biological attack from an adversary.

Once under attack the important consideration should be how to respond and save lives. This requires having a plan to respond already in place. A plan to which all Americans are in agreement.

Not having a plan and turning the response into a political squabble is simply suicidal in my opinion.

So here we are as a country having faced what could have been a biological attack, and we still are playing politics over what our response should have been.

As to Fauci, did he lie, or did he do the best he could with what he knew ?

Now with hindsight and having experienced the attack what as a nation is our plan for a similar attack ?

Fauci. My god where do we begin. Fauci lied and people died.

I have no idea hoot. My guess is fauci did what he thought was best. But he’s a science guy and they should be nowhere near the public or anyone setting policy. Agree on your other stuff. This gain of function and other research that poses a threat apparently needs greater policing. We should all insist upon same

Our gov was an abject failure during Covid. From white lies to politicalization to gross negligence by the agencies we dump obscene amounts of money into. You think Joe Biden is worrying about auditing them? Just immediately cut a check to WHO

First we need to get rid of Biden Harris and the identity appointments and get competent leaders.

People and business will always create jobs and keep the economy cookin. If gov could only do the basics…. Keep us safe. Water clean. Bridges repaired

 

[DDE-6-20-23]

Fauci. My god where do we begin. Fauci lied and people died.

I have no idea hoot. My guess is fauci did what he thought was best. But he’s a science guy and they should be nowhere near the public or anyone setting policy. Agree on your other stuff. This gain of function and other research that poses a threat apparently needs greater policing. We should all insist upon same

Our gov was an abject failure during Covid. From white lies to politicalization to gross negligence by the agencies we dump obscene amounts of money into. You think Joe Biden is worrying about auditing them? Just immediately cut a check to WHO

First we need to get rid of Biden Harris and the identity appointments and get competent leaders.

People and business will always create jobs and keep the economy cookin. If gov could only do the basics…. Keep us safe. Water clean. Bridges repaired

You know what's crazy? Alex Jones predicted this sh!t in 2010 and then again in June 2018...LOL. I saw a Tucker/Rogan clip of all the crap this guy has got right and Covid was a biggie.

 

[hoot1]

Fauci. My god where do we begin. Fauci lied and people died.

I have no idea hoot. My guess is fauci did what he thought was best. But he’s a science guy and they should be nowhere near the public or anyone setting policy. Agree on your other stuff. This gain of function and other research that poses a threat apparently needs greater policing. We should all insist upon same

Our gov was an abject failure during Covid. From white lies to politicalization to gross negligence by the agencies we dump obscene amounts of money into. You think Joe Biden is worrying about auditing them? Just immediately cut a check to WHO

First we need to get rid of Biden Harris and the identity appointments and get competent leaders.

People and business will always create jobs and keep the economy cookin. If gov could only do the basics…. Keep us safe. Water clean. Bridges repaired

MM66, maybe the day will come when the country places its faith in Artificial Intelligence to solve problems such as how to respond to a Covid pandemic.

Then again, if we cannot trust voting machines, rigged AI computers would probably be subject to conspiracy theories.

 

[mcmurtry66]

You know what's crazy? Alex Jones predicted this sh!t in 2010 and then again in June 2018...LOL. I saw a Tucker/Rogan clip of all the crap this guy has got right and Covid was a biggie.

I’ve never read or heard anything from Alex jones. Is he the sandy hook guy?

Love ioe rogan and Dana white. White president Rogan vp. Let’s goooooo

 

[mcmurtry66]

MM66, maybe the day will come when the country places its faith in Artificial Intelligence to solve problems such as how to respond to a Covid pandemic.

Then again, if we cannot trust voting machines, rigged AI computers would probably be subject to conspiracy theories.

At this point I’d take Covid if it ended Burger King commercials. There has to be something we can do. I hope that co goes right out of Fing business. I can’t even think of one near me

 

[BradStevens]

At this point I’d take Covid if it ended Burger King commercials. There has to be something we can do. I hope that co goes right out of Fing business. I can’t even think of one near me

I've seen quite a few shuttered in the past few years. It's going to go BK in another way pretty soon, I would imagine.

 

[mcmurtry66]

I've seen quite a few shuttered in the past few years. It's going to go BK in another way pretty soon, I would imagine.

Good

 

[DDE-6-20-23]

I’ve never read or heard anything from Alex jones. Is he the sandy hook guy?

Love ioe rogan and Dana white. White president Rogan vp. Let’s goooooo

Listen for yourself...I don't watch him either, but this is pretty mind boggling. This is a great clip!

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

Listen for yourself...I don't watch him either, but this is pretty mind boggling. This is a great clip!

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He was spot on about turning the frogs gay.

 

[hoot1]

You know what's crazy? Alex Jones predicted this sh!t in 2010 and then again in June 2018...LOL. I saw a Tucker/Rogan clip of all the crap this guy has got right and Covid was a biggie.

Well ya, but Alex Jones uses a Ouija board and Fauci doesn't even have one.

Just not a fair comparison.

 

[DDE-6-20-23]

He was spot on about turning the frogs gay.

Frogs gay...I have no clue I just watched the clip. Pretty entertaining iyam.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

Frogs gay...I have no clue I just watched the clip. Pretty entertaining iyam.

 

[DDE-6-20-23]

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LMAO thanks for that!!!

 

[NPT]

Then again, if we cannot trust voting machines, rigged AI computers would probably be subject to conspiracy theories.

Hoot it's funny you say that because when ChatGPT first allowed a person to get an account on their system I got one. Just to see if it was political I ask it to write a negative poem about Trump, Pence, Bush and another Republican or two and it wrote some pretty negative. poems I then ask it to write a negative poem about Biden, Harris, Hillary, and a couple other Democrats and it wouldn't do it. I haven't tried that in a long time so it may not be that way now. The reason I remember it so clearly is because about the time I was doing that a big shot from the company was being interviewed on TV and said they tried to not be political (paraphrasing). 😅

 

[hoot1]

Frogs gay...I have no clue I just watched the clip. Pretty entertaining iyam.

Does Alex Jones know about Frogs being Trans, as in having started out as Tadpoles

 

[VanPastorMan]

LMAO thanks for that!!!

It was funnier when Alex was talking about the lack of food and that he said, "I'm gonna eat my neighbors. I'm not gonna let my kids starve".

 

[VanPastorMan]

Does Alex Jones know about Frogs being Trans, as in having started out as Tadpoles

My understanding is chemicals in plastics caused male frogs to not want to mate and they were growing eggs. Now I am not thinking these were eggs which could become frogs but the male frogs were being mutated.

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

Hoot it's funny you say that because when ChatGPT first allowed a person to get an account on their system I got one. Just to see if it was political I ask it to write a negative poem about Trump, Pence, Bush and another Republican or two and it wrote some pretty negative. poems I then ask it to write a negative poem about Biden, Harris, Hillary, and a couple other Democrats and it wouldn't do it. I haven't tried that in a long time so it may not be that way now. The reason I remember it so clearly is because about the time I was doing that a big shot from the company was being interviewed on TV and said they tried to not be political (paraphrasing). 😅

Numerous articles describing early ChatG interactions.

Juxtaposition of racial types in questions regarding identity, social norms, primacy, elicited significantly different responses.

Who is surprised?

You will be assimilated.

Resistance is futile.