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Dunk worth 3 points.

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I have heard a few smart people say they want to see the dunk worth three points. I’m all for it. I think it would make the game instantly better. Not a fan of watching a 3 point contest, and this immediately levels the playing field. Watching more dunk attempts and contact at the rim is a no brainer. Can you imagine a go ahead three point dunk??? Over someone?
 
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I have heard a few smart people say they want to see the dunk worth three points. I’m all for it. I think it would make the game instantly better. Not a fan of watching a 3 point contest, and this immediately levels the playing field. Watching more dunk attempts and contact at the rim is a no brainer. Can you imagine a go ahead three point dunk??? Over someone?
Maybe get rid of the three-point shot completely. Go back to working for good shots and a more complete game.
 
Maybe get rid of the three-point shot completely. Go back to working for good shots and a more complete game.
With the size of today's players, this would turn basketball in to rugby/football overnight. It would not result in a "complete" game. It would result in less skill, more physicality.

The balance between the 3 point shot, and the dunk, both being worth 3 points, is intriguing, though. That could be a path to more balanced overall styles and play.
 
I have heard a few smart people say they want to see the dunk worth three points. I’m all for it. I think it would make the game instantly better. Not a fan of watching a 3 point contest, and this immediately levels the playing field. Watching more dunk attempts and contact at the rim is a no brainer. Can you imagine a go ahead three point dunk??? Over someone?
Move the 3 line back to match the NBA distance, and have it naturally extend all the way to the sidelines. So corner shots would be worth 2.
 
I have heard a few smart people say they want to see the dunk worth three points. I’m all for it. I think it would make the game instantly better. Not a fan of watching a 3 point contest, and this immediately levels the playing field. Watching more dunk attempts and contact at the rim is a no brainer. Can you imagine a go ahead three point dunk??? Over someone?
so, your saying if MM could dunk, he could have won the ucla game not tied it
 
Maybe get rid of the three-point shot completely. Go back to working for good shots and a more complete game.
love the idea. Never gonna happen, but love the idea.

We could run 5 passes and then throw the picket fence at them

Funny thing is, in the early days of the 3 pt shot (late 80s early 90s) with a 45 second shot clock, IU still ran the motion, only good shooters took 3s...and IU still routinely put up 75-90 ppg. So these changes really didn't lead to any major increase in scoring. Just led to more shitty shots being taken by marginal shooters.
 
Maybe get rid of the three-point shot completely. Go back to working for good shots and a more complete game.

If you really want end game drama, have several arcs of increasing value...3, 4, 5, 6 point shots. Ten points from the opposing team's baseline. No game is out of reach!
 
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And a video review after each shot to verify which line he was behind. No thanks -- way too many reviews as it is.
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Probably the best idea is to eliminate the three point shot. God i feel like such a boomer saying that. Its currently too easy to make. So if it stays, it needs to be pushed back. If it can’t be pushed back, the arc needs to end naturally at the sidelines. The corner three is again, way too close.

One suggestion I read that I think has merit is to limit the amount of each team’s three attempts. Say, 25 attempts, tops. And after you reach your limited attempts, they only count as 2 from there on. This will make teams more circumspect about who shoots them, and how often.
 
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Probably the best idea is to eliminate the three point shot. God i feel like such a boomer saying that. Its currently too easy to make. So if it stays, it needs to be pushed back. If it can’t be pushed back, the arc needs to end naturally at the sidelines. The corner three is again, way too close.

One suggestion I read that I think has merit is to limit the amount of each team’s three attempts. Say, 25 attempts, tops. And after you reach your limited attempts, they only count as 2 from there on. This will make teams more circumspect about who shoots them, and how often.
eventually we'll get back to shooting into apple barrels and having jump balls after every made basket.
Players will look great wearing their canvas Chuck Taylors.
 
Reduce the rim from 18" to 16" diameter, and make free-throws, dunks, and lay-ups 2 points, a regular field goal 3 points, and a three point basket 4 points. A made shot with a foul could be a 5-point play, but you'd have to be a good shooter.
 
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If you really want end game drama, have several arcs of increasing value...3, 4, 5, 6 point shots. Ten points from the opposing team's baseline. No game is out of reach!
this means Leal would have tied/won the game vs UM with that 60' heave at the buzzer.

End of close games would be shitshow...down 4-5 with 20 seconds left and guys chucking up half courters...clown show
 
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Reduce the rim from 18" to 16" diameter, and make free-throws, dunks, and lay-ups 2 points, a regular field goal 3 points, and a three point basket 4 points. A made shot with a foul could be a 5-point play, but you'd have to be a good shooter.
shooting %s would plummet and rebounding numbers would skyrocket.
Anyone shooting over 65% from the FT line would be an ace.
 
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With the size of today's players, this would turn basketball in to rugby/football overnight. It would not result in a "complete" game. It would result in less skill, more physicality.

The balance between the 3 point shot, and the dunk, both being worth 3 points, is intriguing, though. That could be a path to more balanced overall styles and play.
I think players and coaches will adjust. Subpar shooters will take fewer shots and the midrange will once again become a major factor for offensive schemes.
 
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How about adding the European trapezoid lane and being back the 5 second rule to increase ball movement. I would also make the 3 further out to spread the floor more.
Introduce some sort of offsides rule or line, so that offense has to work every posession and not lob the ball down to a cherry picker.
 
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Make the rim 11 foot while you're at it.

This dunk thing though -imagine the reviews on whether a dunk is actually a dunk. Did the player control it all the way through the dunk?

I think it would be interesting to watch them play some games without a shot clock (or one significantly increased) and without the 3 point line. IU is the king of the long 2's so we'd be well positioned.
 
Agreed. It would be a rugby match underneath the hoop. Another thought- limit the number of 3s per half to equalize the inside/outside game. After the limit, a shot outside the line is 2 points.
With the size of today's players, this would turn basketball in to rugby/football overnight. It would not result in a "complete" game. It would result in less skill, more physicality.

The balance between the 3 point shot, and the dunk, both being worth 3 points, is intriguing, though. That could be a path to more balanced overall styles and play.
 
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I have heard a few smart people say they want to see the dunk worth three points. I’m all for it. I think it would make the game instantly better. Not a fan of watching a 3 point contest, and this immediately levels the playing field. Watching more dunk attempts and contact at the rim is a no brainer. Can you imagine a go ahead three point dunk??? Over someone?

Since we’re open to changing all the rules. How about changing all 2 point shots to 3 point shots, and all 3 point shots to 4 pointers. This limits the benefit of the three pointer.
 
Since we’re open to changing all the rules. How about changing all 2 point shots to 3 point shots, and all 3 point shots to 4 pointers. This limits the benefit of the three pointer.
While you’re at it, each free throw made would be worth 2 points. If fouled on a 4 point attempt missed, an 8 point play is possible (4 free throws). Likewise, 3 point shots made while being fouled would be worth a possible 5 points if the subsequent 1 2-point play free throw basket was made. A play of 6 points is possible if the 4 point shooter makes his basket in the process of being fouled and hits his subsequent free throw. A three point shooter fouled while missing his shot can score 4 points if making his 2 free tosses. The updated scoring system could be introduced during the NCAA tournament as a means to stimulate broadcast ratings by luring in the curiosity seekers.
 
I like the rules how they are and like the modern game. I would clean up the officiating or change the rules to match how games are called.

I would also support a real time polling system for members of this board to vote on recruiting decisions, starting decisions, in game decisions, etc. The coach would be responsible for rolling out the balls before practice and making sure everyone was on the plane for away games. We would make all basketball decisions. I am thinking national championships. Cav would be head voter and Kraft and zeke only half vote each.
 
I have heard a few smart people say they want to see the dunk worth three points. I’m all for it. I think it would make the game instantly better. Not a fan of watching a 3 point contest, and this immediately levels the playing field. Watching more dunk attempts and contact at the rim is a no brainer. Can you imagine a go ahead three point dunk??? Over someone?
Purdue probably would have won the NC easily with this rule and Edey would have averaged 30+
 
Yes!!! lets keep getting further and further away from the original sport we all loved. It hasn't been completely and totally destroyed yet.....maybe Disney+ will pick it up
Exactly. Leave the fukin game alone. Three point shot is fine. And GREAT for the game. Only reason some here don't like it,.is because we cant fukin make.any.

Didn't see any complaints when we could.
 
Exactly. Leave the fukin game alone. Three point shot is fine. And GREAT for the game. Only reason some here don't like it,.is because we cant fukin make.any.

Didn't see any complaints when we could.
Well, it seems that you missed my complaints about it over the years. You might have also missed the comments of someone who knew some things about basketball, IU basketball in particular:

 
Well, it seems that you missed my complaints about it over the years. You might have also missed the comments of someone who knew some things about basketball, IU basketball in particular:

Meh...He hated it. Ok. Old news. He also won a natty with it.

You don't like it. Ok. Fine. That's fair. But many do. It's good for the game.
 
Since we’re open to changing all the rules. How about changing all 2 point shots to 3 point shots, and all 3 point shots to 4 pointers. This limits the benefit of the three pointer.
I like that. Often thought giving making that shot worth 50% more is the problem. Maybe make it worth 2.5 points and add fractions to the scoreboard :)

Like it or not, the basketball game from when IU excelled isn't coming back.
 
I like that. Often thought giving making that shot worth 50% more is the problem. Maybe make it worth 2.5 points and add fractions to the scoreboard :)

Like it or not, the basketball game from when IU excelled isn't coming back.

Right. Or just count every other one as a three until the final five minutes.
 
Since we are talking about upping scoring, lets put in a 4 point line.

How many airballs will see from 35 feet out?
 
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