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Why did nobody ever object, even a little bit, when Secretary of State Henry Kissinger was routinely referred to as "Dr. Kissinger", because he had gotten a PhD?
Because his peers used the title out of respect for his actual accomplishments versus his own insisting he be recognized as having a doctorate...

Most grasp that Jill uses the title to inflate her achievements rather than allowing them to stand on their own merit... Given her dissertation title that's understandable... 🤣
 
Why did nobody ever object, even a little bit, when Secretary of State Henry Kissinger was routinely referred to as "Dr. Kissinger", because he had gotten a PhD? Did they ask him if he had delivered babies?
Dude didn't have the self awareness to allow his accomplishments and his resume' to do the talking. Obviously.
 
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Because his peers used the title out of respect for his actual accomplishments versus his own insisting he be recognized as having a doctorate...

Most grasp that Jill uses the title to inflate her achievements rather than allowing them to stand on their own merit... Given her dissertation title that's understandable... 🤣
"Most". Sure.

It's okay, 76. You're good enough and smart enough and, doggoneit, people like you.
 
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Why did nobody ever object, even a little bit, when Secretary of State Henry Kissinger was routinely referred to as "Dr. Kissinger", because he had gotten a PhD? Did they ask him if he had delivered babies?
Probably because they wanted to kiss Kissinger’s ass. Either that or because they figured he was smart enough to be a brain surgeon. Now that he’s dead (2023, age 100) nowhere does his Wiki page say Dr Kiss. or even Henry Kiss., PhD. Why? Because no one gives a sh*t now that he’s no longer in this world but for the organic fertilizer.
 
I have a PhD. I don't "insist" that anyone call me doctor on a day-to-day basis. But if I am introduced for any type of speaking engagement, for example, it would be inappropriate for anyone to introduce me as anything other than either "doctor" or "professor". I don't have to tell anyone that, it is just common courtesy and professionalism. I have no idea in what context Dr. Biden "insists" on being called "Dr." (or even if she does) but if it's for introductions at speaking engagements then it's fully appropriate.

Funny thing is, I have had the same dentist for years and he always welcomed me as "Mr." at every appointment. Through our discussions he eventually found out that I had a PhD. He apologized profusely and said "you should have corrected me a long time ago". I assured him that it didn't matter and that I took no offense at all. Ever since he has called me "doctor" and had everyone in his office do the same. Not my call, and I never would have asked for it, and it makes me chuckle a bit on every visit. He's a good dentist.
 
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Rich dudes looking for a trophy wife are a dime a dozen, so I don’t feel sorry for her one bit. She should’ve moved on years ago.
I wasn't saying to feel sorry for her. The question was asked why she wasn't actively campaigning and I believe that is the answer. This isn't her thing. She doesn't have interest in being the center of politically motivated attention so she isn't going to go out of her way to get center stage.

Maybe she actually likes something about the dude (or did at some time). Maybe she has done the calculus and figures a better pay day within the next decade if she sticks around as opposed to cuts bait. Not really my business, nor do I care why she sticks around. Most people's opinion of her is based solely on her husband because she has kind of gone out of her way to not be involved.
 
If I were "threatened by smart, accomplished women" I'd certainly feel very comfortable around a female expert on Community College Retention... 🤣

Weak effort on your part but we've come to expect that from you...
I think I am against “community college retention.“ Isn’t the whole idea of a community college to get somebody a jumpstart into a better education? Move on, up and out?

My dad had an Ed.D. I know how dangerous they can be.
 
I think I am against “community college retention.“ Isn’t the whole idea of a community college to get somebody a jumpstart into a better education? Move on, up and out?
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Community college retention means that they stick it out at the community college long enough to get an associates degree, or enough credit hours to transfer. So if you are interested in them "moving on, up, and out" to a better school, then retention in that 1-2 years of community college is an absolute MUST.
 
I have a PhD. I don't "insist" that anyone call me doctor on a day-to-day basis. But if I am introduced for any type of speaking engagement, for example, it would be inappropriate for anyone to introduce me as anything other than either "doctor" or "professor". I don't have to tell anyone that, it is just common courtesy and professionalism. I have no idea in what context Dr. Biden "insists" on being called "Dr." (or even if she does) but if it's for introductions at speaking engagements then it's fully appropriate.

Funny thing is, I have had the same dentist for years and he always welcomed me as "Mr." at every appointment. Through our discussions he eventually found out that I had a PhD. He apologized profusely and said "you should have corrected me a long time ago". I assured him that it didn't matter and that I took no offense at all. Ever since he has called me "doctor" and had everyone in his office do the same. Not my call, and I never would have asked for it, and it makes me chuckle a bit on every visit. He's a good dentist.
Since retiring 13 years ago, I bristle when someone still refers to me as “Dr”. It sounds extravagant…so pretentious. I tell them I vaguely recall being a “tooth jockey” in one of my past lives, but please, it’s just “abraxis” now. Not everyone’s like that. I know a retired oral surgeon…excuse me, an oral and maxillofacial surgeon, who insists his grandkids call him “Doc”.

My son-in-law received his PhD sheepskin in Clinical Psychology this past May. At his graduation open house I called him “Dr” just to watch him beam, knowing full well to myself it would probably be the last time he heard that word emerge from my orifice in his direction. I grew up thinking real doctors work in hospitals. Some things never change.
 
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I wasn't saying to feel sorry for her. The question was asked why she wasn't actively campaigning and I believe that is the answer. This isn't her thing. She doesn't have interest in being the center of politically motivated attention so she isn't going to go out of her way to get center stage.

Maybe she actually likes something about the dude (or did at some time). Maybe she has done the calculus and figures a better pay day within the next decade if she sticks around as opposed to cuts bait. Not really my business, nor do I care why she sticks around. Most people's opinion of her is based solely on her husband because she has kind of gone out of her way to not be involved.
I think Jill DOES like being the center of attention politically. She just prefers to get it the easier way, that is vicariously through her husband. She IS on center stage, helping the old coot out, without having to think too hard like a real doctor always under threat of a frivolous lawsuit. She’s got too good of a gig going to divorce him now just for a stiffer prick. The fact it smells like three-days old, sun-ripened fish becomes irrelevant when sleeping in separate bedrooms.
 
No worries...😉, most of us consider you, Colorado, IU Crazy, abraxis and McMurtry, along with the "Dream Team", The ultra-elite of Elite Conservatives... So much so, that you've all (along with myself 😉) have been awarded Honorary Doctorates from "The School of Hardcore Hoosier Fandom & Political Analysis or "The Hardcore" for short (soon to be as well known as Kelly)...

Your framed diplomas (to be forwarded to you for a "small" shipping and handling fee) are being manufactured in Nigeria as we speak...

In the future all meetings between us will begin like this:

 
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It's really interesting to see the belittling of community colleges by some of my conservative brethren. They are a fantastic educational resource and a great way for students to access higher education at a much lower cost. I really don't get the attacks on them.
We shouldn't be. Many of us have recommended young college students start there and get an associate's degree before transferring to a four-year college for a Bachelors. I got my daughter to go this route and she finally got her BA from Cal State S.M. It took seven years and it still cost me a lot of money, but she got it done. She had to take every math class twice, unfortunately, and we live in Ohio, so it was more expensive until she got residency. She's an only so, what the hell. Also, she did make the Dean's List the last two years. She just finished her MS and she's adulting with a decent job at 32. I guess my grand plan worked out - finally. ;)
 
The reason most who have doctorates in areas other than medicine don't normally run around insisting on being called "Doctor" is that most have the self awareness to allow their accomplishments and their resume' to do the talking versus the few that lack depth in both areas and, like Jill..., feel the need to over advertise...

Much like why Marines don't waste time saluting indoors (without their cover), if everyone who had a doctorate insisted on being called "Doctor" we'd spend all day involved in silliness like this:



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We have several Doctors of Education where I work and we call them Doctor out of courtesy. I don't know that I necessarily believe that poorly written opinion piece, but any of these Doctorates insisting on being called Doctor is not a great look. I wouldn't get my panties in a bunch over that - it's much more concerning if she really knows Joe isn't going to be able to execute his job in a second term and she's not telling him to drop out.

By the way, my golf league partner and good friend has a Doctorate and I call him by his first name, as do everyone else in the league. That's OK too. People call me by my name, Sir (I never demand it, they just feel more comfortable doing it since they work for me), and a few in the league call me Admiral. I was never an Admiral. ;) It's just in good fun.
 
I think I am against “community college retention.“ Isn’t the whole idea of a community college to get somebody a jumpstart into a better education? Move on, up and out?

My dad had an Ed.D. I know how dangerous they can be.
I assumed that it was about keeping Community Colleges in business, but it could be retention of the student so they get their associate's degree. Sometimes you can find copies of dissertations online. My thesis is out there, I just looked. Cool thing about mine is that I did it for the Army and they actually used what my thesis was about in their JANUS combat simulator. I know because I saw it in action when I went to the Army Command and General Staff College and the techs had a copy of the thesis too. Most of these get filed and never looked at again. I was happy to help the Army out. :)
 
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I don’t think conservatives see people as part of a particular class. Classes are a Marxist/liberal/progressive thing.
I hope that's not true, but if it is, it's part of your problem. If you want proof, go find a poor conservative area of the country and start talking about your law degree, your judge friends, your tandem bike, and your stoker. See how it works out for you.
 
We have several Doctors of Education where I work and we call them Doctor out of courtesy. I don't know that I necessarily believe that poorly written opinion piece, but any of these Doctorates insisting on being called Doctor is not a great look. I wouldn't get my panties in a bunch over that - it's much more concerning if she really knows Joe isn't going to be able to execute his job in a second term and she's not telling him to drop out.

By the way, my golf league partner and good friend has a Doctorate and I call him by his first name, as do everyone else in the league. That's OK too. People call me by my name, Sir (I never demand it, they just feel more comfortable doing it since they work for me), and a few in the league call me Admiral. I was never an Admiral. ;) It's just in good fun.
She knows. It's all about the power and the perks for her.
 
I hope that's not true, but if it is, it's part of your problem. If you want proof, go find a poor conservative area of the country and start talking about your law degree, your judge friends, your tandem bike, and your stoker. See how it works out for you.
Why would I talk about those things? None of that has anything to do with conservatism.
 
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I have a PhD. I don't "insist" that anyone call me doctor on a day-to-day basis. But if I am introduced for any type of speaking engagement, for example, it would be inappropriate for anyone to introduce me as anything other than either "doctor" or "professor". I don't have to tell anyone that, it is just common courtesy and professionalism. I have no idea in what context Dr. Biden "insists" on being called "Dr." (or even if she does) but if it's for introductions at speaking engagements then it's fully appropriate.

My mom was an MD. She was referred to as Dr. only in a professional context/setting. Otherwise, she was Mrs. or Fran or Mom.
 
Since retiring 13 years ago, I bristle when someone still refers to me as “Dr”. It sounds extravagant…so pretentious. I tell them I vaguely recall being a “tooth jockey” in one of my past lives, but please, it’s just “abraxis” now. Not everyone’s like that. I know a retired oral surgeon…excuse me, an oral and maxillofacial surgeon, who insists his grandkids call him “Doc”.

My son-in-law received his PhD sheepskin in Clinical Psychology this past May. At his graduation open house I called him “Dr” just to watch him beam, knowing full well to myself it would probably be the last time he heard that word emerge from my orifice in his direction. I grew up thinking real doctors work in hospitals. Some things never change.
My mom was an MD. She was referred to as Dr. only in a professional context/setting. Otherwise, she was Mrs. or Fran or Mom.
I have one dentist buddy and a handful of md buddies. I call them all doc. I’d never refer to a phd d.ed as doctor
 
My mom was an MD. She was referred to as Dr. only in a professional context/setting. Otherwise, she was Mrs. or Fran or Mom.

I have one dentist buddy and a handful of md buddies. I call them all doc. I’d never refer to a phd d.ed as doctor

Everything changed when she went to the nursing home. I warned them she would be a shitty patient/resident owing to her professional background. She would know better than them and they weren't going to do anything right (her advanced dementia notwithstanding). They assured me they had dealt with her type before and knew how to handle it. From the day she moved in, everyone, and I mean everyone called her Dr.
 
I don’t think conservatives see people as part of a particular class. Classes are a Marxist/liberal/progressive thing.
Have you ever seen any movies dealing with the battle of classes and snobbery? Trading Places, Caddyshack, even Animal House. Would you classify the people in those films as marxists, liberals, or progressives?
 
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Have you ever seen any movies dealing with the battle of classes and snobbery? Trading Places, Caddyshack, even Animal House. Would you classify the people in those films as marxists, liberals, or progressives?
The membership of Bushwood, Mortimer and Randolph, and Fawn Lebowitz were all Democrats. Duh.
 
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The conservatives on this forum are not a fair representation of average conservatives. They are mostly the elite subset.
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Thanks GOAT. The Dream Team is an elite group.
 
Have you ever seen any movies dealing with the battle of classes and snobbery? Trading Places, Caddyshack, even Animal House. Would you classify the people in those films as marxists, liberals, or progressives?
Class differences is a necessary, in fact a vital, part of leftist ideology and politics. This takes many forms but the general leftist theme is to divide all of us into victims and perpetrators
using various ways of division. This point is my primary take away from the Iron Heel.

Conservative politics does not divide people in to classes in order to pursue its objectives. This is the reason for my somewhat glib remark that “elite conservative” seemed like an oxymoron.

Of course classes exist in society and we are likely to find people of any political belief in any class. But only leftists tend to exploit class differences for political purposes.
 
Typical Democratic Socialists of America meeting:

Well in today's world.....


Now they aren't Socialists, at least not when it comes to their own wealth. The perception I have of the typical Democrat is that they always tend to believe that the "rich" are going to be the ones that need to spread the wealth and they typically don't view themselves as "rich". Everyone should pay their fair share and they just so happen to already be paying that amount.

Anywho, in the 2024 version of that movie, the wealthy people would likely be Democrat voters.
 
It's okay, 76. I'm sure you've accomplished some stuff you can be proud of. Someone being an expert in something beyond your knowledge isn't something you need to feel insecure about. That expert being a woman doesn't make you less of a man.
No, but your trolling makes you less of one.😉
 
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Obviously, as soon as the debate was over, the GOP was going to push the narrative that Joe's not really in charge. It's not at all surprising to me that they landed on blaming the women, because that's inherently the scariest conspiracy for their voters.
Or because there’s precedent & it’s the most likely scenario?
 
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Class differences is a necessary, in fact a vital, part of leftist ideology and politics. This takes many forms but the general leftist theme is to divide all of us into victims and perpetrators
using various ways of division. This point is my primary take away from the Iron Heel.

Conservative politics does not divide people in to classes in order to pursue its objectives. This is the reason for my somewhat glib remark that “elite conservative” seemed like an oxymoron.

Of course classes exist in society and we are likely to find people of any political belief in any class. But only leftists tend to exploit class differences for political purposes.
As well as race, gender, etc. Categorizing or classifying people and identity politics is employed on a much larger scale by the left.
 
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Well in today's world.....


Now they aren't Socialists, at least not when it comes to their own wealth. The perception I have of the typical Democrat is that they always tend to believe that the "rich" are going to be the ones that need to spread the wealth and they typically don't view themselves as "rich". Everyone should pay their fair share and they just so happen to already be paying that amount.

Anywho, in the 2024 version of that movie, the wealthy people would likely be Democrat voters.
If we are categorizing by party, each has its share of elitists, egalitarians, extremists, and morons.

As for today’s Caddyshack, I’d dispute that. I’d say 75% of the people I know who belong to a country club—even in Cook County—are either outspoken Republicans or closeted ones.
 
If we are categorizing by party, each has its share of elitists, egalitarians, extremists, and morons.

As for today’s Caddyshack, I’d dispute that. I’d say 75% of the people I know who belong to a country club—even in Cook County—are either outspoken Republicans or closeted ones.
Cc depends on profession here. Biz guys 100 percent republicans. Lots of Dem lawyers tho
 
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