Elon Musk just tweeted it, must’ve already pawned his golden key. Now we know why Pam sits tight on files. Those of us who bothered to read Epstein pilot testimony in Maxwell trial already knew . MAGA supports a pedophile. Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Prince Andrew, Trump’s once lawyer Alan Dershowitz- all in transcript.
DJT in Epstein Files
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No, DBM already told us in another thread that Trump was THE ONLY one who helped these poor girls.
Never mind the fact there are hundreds of reports of sickening Trump behaviors, like hanging around the dressing rooms at Miss America. Dudes a creep
I am skeptical he is in it in any way the means guilt. I think that is the problem with these files, there aren't files labelled "people who messed around with underage girls." So knowing who is listed somewhere for normal activity vs abnormal.
It’s worse than that, Miss America is at least 18 years old. It was Miss Teen USA, with girls as young as 15. But that’s totally normal, you know.
"I hear he likes them on the younger side, so to speak."
No…I’m so surprised you can find someone who says he’s innocent. Leave it to you.
That is the only good reason to keep it under wraps. Many people will assume the worst of anyone found on that list.
And even if Trump is on it, there will be enough reasonable doubt as to what it means that it won't change anyone's minds.
Hard to deny that Trump knew exactly what Epstein was up to..although many do just that.
At best, Trump didn't turn Epstein in to the authorities. At worst Trump is depending on being saved by reasonable doubt
This is every guy at every bar in south Florida in 1992.
My god what a life he has had.
watch it...think you may have just turned on a few of the posters here
I'm skeptical there are any "files" that aren't already public. The first batch released was just stuff that was already in the court record, anyway. I'm guessing that's all there is.
That may be, but that would be easy for two administrations to just come out and say, "it is all out there.". I don't know what they are gaining by not doing so.
Maybe years of being able to imply a politician on the other side is on the list without anyone being able to fact-check it??
co sign. flight logs are different from evidence of trump, clinton etc sleeping with a minor. and if it did happen where are these minors? why haven't htey spoken out? they certainly have in the epstein cases in wpb.
I concur. I've joked about the delay for moving them from Bondi's desk to the public being due to redacting all references to Trump, but I was joking. I don't believe that there's anything in them that would implicate him with diddling with the underaged girls. I think if he had it would have come out in the Maxwell trial or one or more of the girls would have come forward on that. However, Musk has broached that possibility, which to me is only entertainment.
There are many reasons for them not to come out with evidence against Trump's rapes. The MAGA crowd would make their life miserable with overt hatred, death threats, intimidation, etc.
25+ years later, they've moved on and picked up the pieces of a part of their life that they don't want to re-live, and for which they were handsomely paid to keep quiet about. Even if they have hard evidence for the accusations, such as paperwork for an abortion paid for by Trump, I think they would prefer to lay low 99% of the time. They would be notorious, not famous, in the eyes of far too many Trump cultists.
Should he do it in exchange for Maxwell giving up all the names and agreeing to testify at the trials?
Evidently the Biden administration thought he's innocent. They had all the information and 4 years to prosecute him and didn't.
I'm pretty sure she wasn't just a victim or she wouldn't need a pardon.
LOL if trump was in the the files they would have been leaked before the election to help Harris win. The only thing that is going to get real is if they release them a ton of democrats will be in the files. So by all means release them.
It is beyond comical the lefties think Trump is in these files and Biden and Harris held onto them and did not leak them. They tried to jail him four times but did not make public trump was in the epstein files. Give me a break the libs are really grasping at straws on this one.
Elon is making the accusation, not a bunch of Democrats.
Of course she did some bad things but without her testimony it's probably very hard to nail the real predators here. Like a plea bargain.
no. maxwell needs to suffer. she's who these young girls reposed their trust. girl to older woman. she was the one driving around the poorer parts of west wpb recruiting high school kids to give him "massages" for a lousy hundred bucks
Trump partied with Epstein for 20 years. I do believe Trump’s places in NY and FL were only 5 minutes from Epstein’s places there. Of course dumbasses like danc and dmb and whoever else I can’t see anymore will just put the laugh emoji on everything. They have no argument. Rest assured, they’ll have a justification.
So Trump has partied with Epstein and Diddy held freak-off parties in a Trump hotel. Maybe he was at church when all the bad stuff happened with those guys.
No idea but powerful and influential people. Release everything and arrest all of them. She knows everything.
Sorry dude nothing is about to get good. Any good stuff was likely destroyed when Biden was in office. Nothing burger.
Jessica Leeds.
Rachel Crooks.
Natasha Stoynoff.
Kristin Anderson.
Jill Harth.
Summer Zervos.
Cathy Heller.
Amy Dorris.
Lisa Boyne.
Temple Taggart.
Karena Virginia.
Mindy McGillivray.
Cassandra Searles.
Tasha Dixon.
E. Jean Carroll.
And more than a dozen more.
Each one accused Donald J. Trump of sexual misconduct, groping, assault, or rape. Some were contestants. Some were reporters. Some were guests at Mar-a-Lago. Their stories weren’t whispers — they were shouted. Sworn. Testified. Published. Mocked.
And America shrugged.
Trump didn’t deny the behavior. He bragged about it.
“When you’re a star, they let you do it.”
His supporters laughed away.
He walked in on undressed teenage pageant contestants. He kissed women without consent. He openly joked about dating his own daughter. He used hush money to silence a porn star — and then became the first American president convicted of felonies for covering it up. He called Stormy Daniels “Horseface,” sued her for speaking out, and lost in court.
But the cult kept looking away.
We dismissed the women as gold-diggers, liars, political pawns. We told them to come forward, and then destroyed them when they did.
26 women. Two juries.
One predator who still holds rallies and sells Bibles, brags about grabbing women “by the pussy,” calls women “disgusting,” and jokes about their weight. He mocked Christine Blasey Ford. He humiliated Megyn Kelly. He said women who get abortions should be “punished.” He made misogyny part of his brand. He knew he could get away with it. He said so. Out loud. Into a microphone. Because he knew America wouldn’t care — or wouldn’t care enough.
But... This isn’t just about Trump. It’s about what we tolerate. It’s about what we’re still willing to excuse for a promise of cheaper eggs or gas or crab legs.
If this man were your neighbor, your teacher, your boss, or your pastor, he’d be gone.
As a country, we need a spine.
26 of 26 women who came forward paid a price. And the man who assaulted them? He’s serving a second term as President of the United States.
Virginia Giuffre, said she was recruited by Ghislaine Maxwell at Mar-a-Lago — where she was working as a teenager. She says Epstein trafficked her. She says she was forced to have sex with powerful men that she he did not name, for fear of reprisal.
In 2016, a woman named Katie Johnson filed a federal lawsuit in New York alleging that Trump raped her when she was 13 years old at an Epstein-hosted party. She later dropped the suit, citing death threats. That’s not confirmation. But it’s not fiction either. It was filed in court. And it was ignored.
Trump’s cult point out that he later banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago. That’s true — after Epstein reportedly assaulted a young girl there. But banning him after the damage is done isn’t heroism. It’s damage control.
Trump isn’t the only one whose name has been connected to Epstein — not by a long shot. There are flight logs, contact books, visitor logs, sealed court records. And yes, many of them remain sealed — because the justice system doesn’t want us to know who else might crack under sunlight.
That list of names — some powerful, some still anonymous — wasn’t sealed for privacy. It was sealed for protection. Not of victims. Of reputations. Of dynasties. Of power.
Epstein didn’t cater to one party. He catered to anyone with enough money and ego to believe they were untouchable. He was the concierge of elite perversion — and Trump was on the guest list.
We don’t know every detail of what happened in those mansions, islands, and jets. But we know enough to ask why Donald Trump, already a man accused of sexual misconduct or assault by more than two dozen women, is still treated like a punchline instead of a cautionary tale. Why does this man — who joked about walking in on teens, who said “you have to treat women like shit,” who praised Epstein after his conviction — still command respect from anybody?
Because the truth isn’t that we didn’t believe the women. It’s that we did. And we didn’t care. That’s the sickness. That’s the rot. This country didn’t need more proof. We had their names. Their stories. Their pain. Their courage. But for every brave woman who spoke out, there was a louder chorus of enablers saying shut up. That she was too late. Too angry. Too young. Too old. Too quiet. Too messy. Too threatening. Too inconvenient for the man they wanted to believe in.
If you want to know why more survivors don’t come forward, look at what happened to the ones who did.
This isn’t about old news. It’s about what we’re willing to normalize. Donald Trump is what happens when a nation refuses to listen. He is what happens when we look away.
And the cost isn’t just political. It’s personal. For every woman watching this unfold, it’s another message that her story doesn’t matter. That pain is politics. That power will always win. That unless there’s a camera rolling, a jury seated, and a billionaire on the stand, no one will believe her.
If we have any conscience left — if we still believe in justice that doesn’t wear a red hat — then we have to stop asking what will it take to stop him and start asking what the hell took us so long.
We already know who he is. The real question now is: who are we?
Rachel Crooks.
Natasha Stoynoff.
Kristin Anderson.
Jill Harth.
Summer Zervos.
Cathy Heller.
Amy Dorris.
Lisa Boyne.
Temple Taggart.
Karena Virginia.
Mindy McGillivray.
Cassandra Searles.
Tasha Dixon.
E. Jean Carroll.
And more than a dozen more.
Each one accused Donald J. Trump of sexual misconduct, groping, assault, or rape. Some were contestants. Some were reporters. Some were guests at Mar-a-Lago. Their stories weren’t whispers — they were shouted. Sworn. Testified. Published. Mocked.
And America shrugged.
Trump didn’t deny the behavior. He bragged about it.
“When you’re a star, they let you do it.”
His supporters laughed away.
He walked in on undressed teenage pageant contestants. He kissed women without consent. He openly joked about dating his own daughter. He used hush money to silence a porn star — and then became the first American president convicted of felonies for covering it up. He called Stormy Daniels “Horseface,” sued her for speaking out, and lost in court.
But the cult kept looking away.
We dismissed the women as gold-diggers, liars, political pawns. We told them to come forward, and then destroyed them when they did.
26 women. Two juries.
One predator who still holds rallies and sells Bibles, brags about grabbing women “by the pussy,” calls women “disgusting,” and jokes about their weight. He mocked Christine Blasey Ford. He humiliated Megyn Kelly. He said women who get abortions should be “punished.” He made misogyny part of his brand. He knew he could get away with it. He said so. Out loud. Into a microphone. Because he knew America wouldn’t care — or wouldn’t care enough.
But... This isn’t just about Trump. It’s about what we tolerate. It’s about what we’re still willing to excuse for a promise of cheaper eggs or gas or crab legs.
If this man were your neighbor, your teacher, your boss, or your pastor, he’d be gone.
As a country, we need a spine.
26 of 26 women who came forward paid a price. And the man who assaulted them? He’s serving a second term as President of the United States.
Virginia Giuffre, said she was recruited by Ghislaine Maxwell at Mar-a-Lago — where she was working as a teenager. She says Epstein trafficked her. She says she was forced to have sex with powerful men that she he did not name, for fear of reprisal.
In 2016, a woman named Katie Johnson filed a federal lawsuit in New York alleging that Trump raped her when she was 13 years old at an Epstein-hosted party. She later dropped the suit, citing death threats. That’s not confirmation. But it’s not fiction either. It was filed in court. And it was ignored.
Trump’s cult point out that he later banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago. That’s true — after Epstein reportedly assaulted a young girl there. But banning him after the damage is done isn’t heroism. It’s damage control.
Trump isn’t the only one whose name has been connected to Epstein — not by a long shot. There are flight logs, contact books, visitor logs, sealed court records. And yes, many of them remain sealed — because the justice system doesn’t want us to know who else might crack under sunlight.
That list of names — some powerful, some still anonymous — wasn’t sealed for privacy. It was sealed for protection. Not of victims. Of reputations. Of dynasties. Of power.
Epstein didn’t cater to one party. He catered to anyone with enough money and ego to believe they were untouchable. He was the concierge of elite perversion — and Trump was on the guest list.
We don’t know every detail of what happened in those mansions, islands, and jets. But we know enough to ask why Donald Trump, already a man accused of sexual misconduct or assault by more than two dozen women, is still treated like a punchline instead of a cautionary tale. Why does this man — who joked about walking in on teens, who said “you have to treat women like shit,” who praised Epstein after his conviction — still command respect from anybody?
Because the truth isn’t that we didn’t believe the women. It’s that we did. And we didn’t care. That’s the sickness. That’s the rot. This country didn’t need more proof. We had their names. Their stories. Their pain. Their courage. But for every brave woman who spoke out, there was a louder chorus of enablers saying shut up. That she was too late. Too angry. Too young. Too old. Too quiet. Too messy. Too threatening. Too inconvenient for the man they wanted to believe in.
If you want to know why more survivors don’t come forward, look at what happened to the ones who did.
This isn’t about old news. It’s about what we’re willing to normalize. Donald Trump is what happens when a nation refuses to listen. He is what happens when we look away.
And the cost isn’t just political. It’s personal. For every woman watching this unfold, it’s another message that her story doesn’t matter. That pain is politics. That power will always win. That unless there’s a camera rolling, a jury seated, and a billionaire on the stand, no one will believe her.
If we have any conscience left — if we still believe in justice that doesn’t wear a red hat — then we have to stop asking what will it take to stop him and start asking what the hell took us so long.
We already know who he is. The real question now is: who are we?
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