I would have went with Dishonest, Disingenuous, Despicable, Detestable, Democrat.
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No kidding.
I wasn't super wild about either one of them.
To me, John McCain represented almost everything wrong with the DC political establishment. And I say that as somebody who *wants* the political establishment to prevail -- but in a form that better serves the country and its people than it has. The establishment has gotten kicked in the nuts in the past 8 or so years. And, quite frankly, they brought it upon themselves....even if they haven't fully grasped that.
I thought it was fitting that McCain got the kind of treatment he did at his funeral...but not for the reasons that were intended.
McCain: loved him as an American...distrusted him as a politician.
Romney is a different story. He has his faults (mostly that he's had to be malleable in order to succeed as a politician in both MA and UT...such that I've never gotten a great sense of where exactly he actually stood on things). But he's a smart man, a wise man, and also a good man. And he's also been dead right about Donald Trump all along. And bully for him to be willing to say so.
But neither one of these men have ever been "disgusting" -- in the way that, say, Roger Stone and Steve Bannon are disgusting.
They polled for....Al Gore?
McCain was a good person and horrible candidate. Not deserving of what Trump said of him. Romney......yikes. Calling Gabbard treasonous . She should have kicked him in the nuts. Bottom line is Romney & McCain were both swamp creatures.
Probably because he has name recognition. I've been told by most of the WC that almost anyone in decent health would easily beat Trump as Americans are desperate for a competent alternative. That clearly isn't the case as Trump blows away Hillary, Gore, and Kamala.
I'd just say that polls involving hypothetical candidates lose a whole lot of value when there's already somebody who isn't a hypothetical candidate.
In other words, some number of people are going to resent even being asked about anybody other than Joe Biden. Maybe Kamala Harris, since she's his veep. But beyond that?
However, just because they'd reject this hypothetical in a poll doesn't mean they wouldn't vote for this person as soon as they weren't hypothetical.
If you're interpreting this data to mean that Trump is strong in an absolute sense (rather than in just a relative-to-Biden sense), then I think you're misinterpreting them.
The federal government is too large.......too involved in everyone's lives. Thus, the weaponization of the legal system by the Dems, the party that revels in the swamp. People like Romney and McCain who were once productive individuals just get swallowed up. In the end they became worse than useless. The solution is term limits on all federal offices. The fact that they've never been close to being adopted illustrates the basic problem.
He is a tough old bastard, no doubt. The effort he has put into trying to retain his power is 10x greater than he's shown trying to run the country. Which is probably for the best, given that every instinct he has is detrimental to the country.
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She is the only Presidential candidate that finished somewhere close to last in her only attempt after only one state that was then "promoted" to second in charge. She is a disaster and you are correct she would get absolutely crushed.
The only thing she's good at is playing the race card and spouting other woke nonsense. That alone plus having a pulse makes her a better option for the Dems than Biden.
Oh, please... Harris wouldn't be any more in control than Joe is. This country is being run by a background group that isn't going to changed, even if Harris is President.
You really think the Dems will rally around her when she didn't get a serious look in the Dem primaries?
Dems will stay home in droves if she's the nominee. That cackle laugh will get awfully old by election day.
He’s still alive? I assumed Climate Change took him out.
Dems will stay home in droves if she's the nominee. That cackle laugh will get awfully old by election day.
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Who in the living hell would be the VP candidate? Rachel Levine?
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Who in the living hell would be the VP candidate? Rachel Levine?
That guy that actually ran in the primary, don’t recall his name, could give it another go. I’d expect 5 or 6 would try. We’d most likely get a preview of the VP candidate among them.
He has to be outwardly resolute even if inwardly unsure. I think it’s a matter of when, not if.
I saw it and don’t believe it. I’d bet on him dropping out. What he has happens to most that reach old age and he’s not going to get better.
No, you haven't. Unless you use a different meaning of the word "most" than the rest of us.
I actually take it to show that the Democrats have fundamental structural problems with this election that are outside the individual peculiarities of Biden.
But your point is valid, too.
Maybe. But it’s hard for me to imagine a ticket consisting of Gretchen Whitmer and Josh Shapiro losing to a ticket led by Donald Trump.
It’s worth noting that Dem candidates in AZ, NV, and OH are running strong and well ahead of Biden in states that Trump is poised to win.
This seems like as good a thread as any to post this.
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I'm not a fan of Crooke, but as a guy who has had enough of US politics and the corporate media arms aligned with their preferred side of the coin, the article speaks to me.
We were “deceived and gaslit for years”, all in the name of “democracy”; then “poof”, it collapsed overnight
We see clearly the collapse of the manipulation that has confined discourse to within the various Washington villages. ❗️Join us on Telegram, Twitter , and VK. Contact us: info@strategic-culture.su…
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I'm not a fan of Crooke, but as a guy who has had enough of US politics and the corporate media arms aligned with their preferred side of the coin, the article speaks to me.
Republicans have put up a lot of bad congressional candidates. There may also be an element of strategic voting this year, as people wary of a Trump White House put extra effort into supporting Dem House candidates.
The moral high ground of this administration as it relates to trump is illusory. The only difference is trump’s rot is more overtWe were “deceived and gaslit for years”, all in the name of “democracy”; then “poof”, it collapsed overnight
We see clearly the collapse of the manipulation that has confined discourse to within the various Washington villages. ❗️Join us on Telegram, Twitter , and VK. Contact us: info@strategic-culture.su…
I'm not a fan of Crooke, but as a guy who has had enough of US politics and the corporate media arms aligned with their preferred side of the coin, the article speaks to me.
I feel like clicking on that link will give me a computer virus.This seems like as good a thread as any to post this.
We were “deceived and gaslit for years”, all in the name of “democracy”; then “poof”, it collapsed overnight
We see clearly the collapse of the manipulation that has confined discourse to within the various Washington villages. ❗️Join us on Telegram, Twitter , and VK. Contact us: info@strategic-culture.su…
I'm not a fan of Crooke, but as a guy who has had enough of US politics and the corporate media arms aligned with their preferred side of the coin, the article speaks to me.
You really think it would be the end of Trump if he loses? I have my doubts.
So far, my 401k, IRA and brokerage accounts remain intact. I got a snippet of it in a text and googled to find the complete article.
Try this one
We Were "Deceived & Gaslit For Years", All In The Name Of "Democracy"; Then "Poof", It Collapsed Overnight
July 9, 2024 by Alastair Crooke
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It should be a wake-up call to his devoted followers that the guy was a three time popular vote loser, a two time EC loser, and that he caused Republicans to underperform in every election since 2020, including costing the GOP the Senate in 2020. Plus he’s 78 and aging fast and ugly.
Democrats have pooped themselves on this last election cycle. Biden SHOULD have been nothing more than a transitional candidate/president so both parties can put out someone who isn't doo doo. Both failed, but at least Haley gave it a go.
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