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Decoding Our Obsession with Conspiracy Theories

But my question is did he marry Ivanka before he got the inheritance. I it was before perhaps they married for love even though he messed it up with Marla.
you think any wife was unaware of his family wealth?

I wouldn't be shocked if Trump wore a gold chain around his neck with his name in big bold letters.

The guy was probably crapping on golden toilets and you think any of his wives were unaware?
 
...perhaps they married for love even though he messed it up with Marla.
They married at least in part because Ivana was knocked up and refused Donald's wishes that she get an abortion. He was already a successful real estate developer. A few months later Don Jr. was born.

A few years later, after a string of other affairs, Donald started his affair with Marla Maples. It started out hush-hush but got more brazen over time. He went on a ski trip with Ivana, brought Marla along too, and hopped rooms. Well, the paths of wife and mistress crossed.

Then Ivana got a divorce and almost immediately Donald married Marla, because Marla was knocked up and refused Donald's wishes that she get an abortion. A few months later Tiffany was born.

More affairs, more sleaze, probably many abortions that actually were performed according to Don's wishes, and Marla & Donald broke up.

Amazingly, Melania was apparently not knocked up by Donald while his mistress, prior to her marriage. Once she did get knocked up (or likely before), Donald started cheating on her.

What a guy!

Google exists. Fred Trump died in 1999, same year as the Marla Maples divorce, 2 years after they separated.
 
They married at least in part because Ivana was knocked up and refused Donald's wishes that she get an abortion. He was already a successful real estate developer. A few months later Don Jr. was born.

A few years later, after a string of other affairs, Donald started his affair with Marla Maples. It started out hush-hush but got more brazen over time. He went on a ski trip with Ivana, brought Marla along too, and hopped rooms. Well, the paths of wife and mistress crossed.

Then Ivana got a divorce and almost immediately Donald married Marla, because Marla was knocked up and refused Donald's wishes that she get an abortion. A few months later Tiffany was born.

More affairs, more sleaze, probably many abortions that actually were performed according to Don's wishes, and Marla & Donald broke up.

Amazingly, Melania was apparently not knocked up by Donald while his mistress, prior to her marriage. Once she did get knocked up (or likely before), Donald started cheating on her.

What a guy!

Google exists. Fred Trump died in 1999, same year as the Marla Maples divorce, 2 years after they separated.
So that explains why pro-lifers love him.
 
The problem is that the Chinese government itself showed guilty knowledge through its conduct in late 2019 and early 2020. There were many stories about this that never gained traction. Some of that was due to Fauci deceptions.
Their lack of transparency followed by obstruction
 
They married at least in part because Ivana was knocked up and refused Donald's wishes that she get an abortion. He was already a successful real estate developer. A few months later Don Jr. was born.

A few years later, after a string of other affairs, Donald started his affair with Marla Maples. It started out hush-hush but got more brazen over time. He went on a ski trip with Ivana, brought Marla along too, and hopped rooms. Well, the paths of wife and mistress crossed.

Then Ivana got a divorce and almost immediately Donald married Marla, because Marla was knocked up and refused Donald's wishes that she get an abortion. A few months later Tiffany was born.

More affairs, more sleaze, probably many abortions that actually were performed according to Don's wishes, and Marla & Donald broke up.

Amazingly, Melania was apparently not knocked up by Donald while his mistress, prior to her marriage. Once she did get knocked up (or likely before), Donald started cheating on her.

What a guy!

Google exists. Fred Trump died in 1999, same year as the Marla Maples divorce, 2 years after they separated.
So DT didn't get inheritance money until 99?. Then the narrative he mad his money that way is wrong. I do agree with you that DT is slimy with women. I would not want him dating my daughter.
 
So DT didn't get inheritance money until 99?. Then the narrative he mad his money that way is wrong. I do agree with you that DT is slimy with women. I would not want him dating my daughter.
Seriously?!? No. Do you really not know how to use an internet search engine? WTH, man?
 
So DT didn't get inheritance money until 99?. Then the narrative he mad his money that way is wrong. I do agree with you that DT is slimy with women. I would not want him dating my daughter.
 
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Re the last part, it is true that 99.9999% of all pandemics and viruses that have circulated in human history have zoonotic origins. That's a strong fact. But technology has advanced and we have had issues in the past.

Rather than blame a political party or a nation for Covid, though, we, as a species, should be concerned with containing and safely dealing with this tech. Otherwise, even if Covid wasn't the result of lab leak, one is bound to occur in the future and kill a lot of people. I think the scientific community that spent so much time denigrating the lab leak proponents bear a lot of the responsibility for these conversations not taking place.


That NYT piece I mentioned -- link here -- cited that 1977 epidemic.

Really, I don't see how we can avoid blaming countries and instead just approach this as a species. It sounds good in theory. But, obviously, actors like China don't seem all that willing to go along with it. And while the 1977 epidemic is often referred to as the "Russian Flu", it (likely) leaked from a lab in China as well.

This reminds me of another thing that really caught my attention re: the Lab Leak debate. Back in early 2021, an Australian minister called for an independent, international investigation into the origins of Covid. A Chinese minister promptly threatened them with economic consequences.

Clearly, that world usually goes to great lengths to ensure safety. But that German report found a number of lax practices at WIV, which isn't surprising. What is surprising is that these lax practices were happening at a BSL that we were helping to fund.
 
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“Suspicion” is not the word I would use. More so a general apathy towards anything told or portrayed to me by a government entity.

The official story is still that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. When bold face lies can shamelessly be told like that by the Federal Government, how is it possible to take much of anything at face value?

When Government officials will knowingly lie to you about the effectiveness of a surgical mask and a vaccine during what some people would classify as a “pandemic”.

After that, I just don’t really care. Maybe they’re telling the truth, I’m open to anyone who has a reason they may not be. Just got to live your life knowing that federal government actions and narratives should never be taken at face value.
You need to learn what "apathy" is.

Strongly suggesting/claiming that a mask and vaccine are not "effective" or that the govt. "lied" is not "apathy" toward someone's expression of the opposite position -- it's actually just outright denial of the opposition position based on absolutely no rational data at all. That's not what "apathy" is.

Did you do your own studies of masks and vaccines to support your suggestions about masks and vaccines or did you just repeat that stuff from the internet without challenging it?
 
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One of the all-time dumbest conspiracy theories surrounding J6 was Ray Epps being a Fed or CI. There was no support for that and he was convicted and sentenced appropriately for his crime. President Trump pardoned him.

We've had this discussion before, I know.

But, given what was known about Epps' actions on that day and things subsequent to that, I disagree with you that it was a dumb conspiracy theory. When you have a guy loudly and repeatedly urging people to go into the Capitol (with others around him chanting that he's a Fed) who then himself refused to enter the Capitol....and who then avoided any criminal charges for 2.5 years...who sent the texts that he sent...and who, despite being so vocal about people entering the Capitol, received a light charge and no jail time...

...it's not at all hard for me to understand why so many people found that not adding up, especially when compared to the dispensations for other people there.

Now, Pizzagate...that was a dumb conspiracy theory.
 
You need to learn what "apathy" is.

Strongly suggesting/claiming that a mask and vaccine are not "effective" or that the govt. "lied" is not "apathy" toward someone's expression of the opposite position -- it's actually just outright denial of the opposition position based on absolutely no rational data at all. That's not what "apathy" is.

Did you do your own studies of masks and vaccines to support your suggestions about masks and vaccines or did you just repeat that stuff from the internet without challenging it?
Lapping up everything presented to you whether it was fauci lying about masks, the genesis of Covid, the fiction of distancing, vaccines and side effects/spread/kids/ 51 intelligence officials, is every bit as dumb as adherence to conspiracy. It’s just the other side of the coin. It’s the side of stupid you occupy as a progressive virtue signaling goose stepper
 
Lapping up everything presented to you whether it was fauci lying about masks, the genesis of Covid, the fiction of distancing, vaccines and side effects/spread/kids/ 51 intelligence officials, is every bit as dumb as adherence to conspiracy. It’s just the other side of the coin. It’s the side of stupid you occupy as a progressive virtue signaling goose stepper
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Good read on the relationship between populism and conspiracy theories.

It’s well researched, so read it before this admin takes the site down.

 
Good read on the relationship between populism and conspiracy theories.

It’s well researched, so read it before this admin takes the site down.


Don't tell that to Barack Obama. He thinks populism is a good thing and has scoffed publicly at the label being applied to Donald Trump and his movement.
 
We've had this discussion before, I know.

But, given what was known about Epps' actions on that day and things subsequent to that, I disagree with you that it was a dumb conspiracy theory. When you have a guy loudly and repeatedly urging people to go into the Capitol (with others around him chanting that he's a Fed) who then himself refused to enter the Capitol....and who then avoided any criminal charges for 2.5 years...who sent the texts that he sent...and who, despite being so vocal about people entering the Capitol, received a light charge and no jail time...

...it's not at all hard for me to understand why so many people found that not adding up, especially when compared to the dispensations for other people there.

Now, Pizzagate...that was a dumb conspiracy theory.
He was not telling people to go into the Capitol while at the Capitol. That was previously. Others testified under oath at their trials that he did not. He talked big the day before and then he tried telling people not to go in the while at the Capitol. He was another MAGA, but he got cold feet. He had a low-level charge and others who actually assaulted police were much higher on the priority list. And finally, CIs and Feds do NOT get convicted when they're doing their jobs. I think it was super dumb all along, but once he was convicted the theory became absolutely asinine.

Yes, Pizzagate was a very dumb conspiracy theory.
 
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He was not telling people to go into the Capitol while at the Capitol. That was previously. Others testified under oath at their trials that he did not. He talked big the day before and then he tried telling people not to go in the while at the Capitol.

This doesn’t seem like it makes a whole lot of difference. The problem was his urging people to go in at all - especially relative to when and how he was charged.

It’s just very strange that somebody who was inciting the breach was treated so lightly.

I’m not saying this proves he was a CI. It doesn’t. And I think the matter was officially cleared up with the IG’s report.

But it’s just not that hard for me to see why it aroused so much suspicion.
 
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