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Damn, this is a ringing endorsement for Beard from a pretty good source.

Yes. IU Football has to hire from mid-major. They can’t poach from other power conferences because we’re awful (prior to Cig).


"Hey Man, I don't know if you're keeping up with current events, but we just got our asses kicked Pal!"

Seriously, think we've wound our way through the tier 1 candidates already if you believe Beard is a non-starter. As I continue to say: talk to everyone and see who knocks your socks off. I think it's quite possible that will be a mid-major guy, and if it is, be bold and hire him.
 


"Hey Man, I don't know if you're keeping up with current events, but we just got our asses kicked Pal!"

Seriously, think we've wound our way through the tier 1 candidates already if you believe Beard is a non-starter. As I continue to say: talk to everyone and see who knocks your socks off. I think it's quite possible that will be a mid-major guy, and if it is, be bold and hire him.
Gotta love Private Hudson-
WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!!
GAME OVER! GAME OVER!

He was naturally hilarious in his fears and didn’t know why he liked so much to spend time in New Harmony IN.

When Arnold scared him in True Lies is another classic.
 
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"Hey Man, I don't know if you're keeping up with current events, but we just got our asses kicked Pal!"

Seriously, think we've wound our way through the tier 1 candidates already if you believe Beard is a non-starter. As I continue to say: talk to everyone and see who knocks your socks off. I think it's quite possible that will be a mid-major guy, and if it is, be bold and hire him.
I don’t have much hope and assume it will be another poor hire. It’s what we do.
 
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"Hey Man, I don't know if you're keeping up with current events, but we just got our asses kicked Pal!"

Seriously, think we've wound our way through the tier 1 candidates already if you believe Beard is a non-starter. As I continue to say: talk to everyone and see who knocks your socks off. I think it's quite possible that will be a mid-major guy, and if it is, be bold and hire him.
I'm just repeating something I heard on a podcast but it.makes sense, to me at least. When Dolson announced Woodson's return a year ago, he had at least a suspicion that he'd be replacing him now. He's likely been on a fact finding mission since that time. I tend to believe he's already done due diligence where Beard's concerned.

Dolson has to cover his own ass too. If he hires someone who ends up reflecting badly, he could well be taking the Greenspan expressway out of Btown.

IF they interview him, I assume they've determined that the risk in bringing him in is minimal. If they don't, it apparently wasn't worth the risk.
 
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If the numbers don't lie ... 24-3.
In 2008 Drake coach Keno Davis was 28-5 ap coach of the year only 35 years old the next upcoming young coach went to Providence failed was fired. Dakich thinks Alford should be coach do you agree with that?
 
In 2008 Drake coach Keno Davis was 28-5 ap coach of the year only 35 years old the next upcoming young coach went to Providence failed was fired. Dakich thinks Alford should be coach do you agree with that?
I was simply countering your podcast argument with my own; I really don't care what Dakich says. Besides, he's not the only one singing BM's praises.

Again, we have differing opinions. And, if he's hired, we won't know which perspective is more accurate until games are played. I might be wrong; he might be a bust. You might be wrong; he might kill it. My perspective is valid, as is yours.

McCollum is not my first choice, but my initial reaction won't be to flip out and start whining about IU's program being dead. No one can predict with certainty how it will work out ... and I realize that's part of your concern. Understandable.

Now ... my initial reaction to a "known quanity" might be different. If it's someone like Alford or Wade or Collins, I would take a blowtorch to IU until the start of the season ... then I'd sit back, cheer, and see what happens.

We can agree to disagree.
 
I was simply countering your podcast argument with my own; I really don't care what Dakich says. Besides, he's not the only one singing BM's praises.

Again, we have differing opinions. And, if he's hired, we won't know which perspective is more accurate until games are played. I might be wrong; he might be a bust. You might be wrong; he might kill it. My perspective is valid, as is yours.

McCollum is not my first choice, but my initial reaction won't be to flip out and start whining about IU's program being dead. No one can predict with certainty how it will work out ... and I realize that's part of your concern. Understandable.

Now ... my initial reaction to a "known quanity" might be different. If it's someone like Alford or Wade or Collins, I would take a blowtorch to IU until the start of the season ... then I'd sit back, cheer, and see what happens.

We can agree to disagree.
For me, Dolson has earned enough goodwill from the Cignetti hire that if he goes with a mid-major coach I'll trust his judgement at least until games start.

If he turns around and hires someone like Alford, then all that goes out the window. NO MORE OLD IU PLAYERS. Tried it, lesson learned (hopefully).
 
For me, Dolson has earned enough goodwill from the Cignetti hire that if he goes with a mid-major coach I'll trust his judgement at least until games start.

If he turns around and hires someone like Alford, then all that goes out the window. NO MORE OLD IU PLAYERS. Tried it, lesson learned (hopefully).
After initially zig-zagging from one opinion to another, I've landed at the same place as you. If it's Beard, I'll be confident Dolson & Co. made the best decision for IU basketball. If it's not, I'll be confident they made the best decision for IU basketball.

Some on here view CB as Jesus and most other candidates as mere peasants. Fine. I, for one, am quite confident there are other excellent candidates out there ... it's not Beard or bust.

P.S. I don't envision a universe where it's another former player. For one, IU has learned its lesson. Moreover, I think the Bigfoot Brigade's voice has been neutered by Woody's abject failure as a coach and representative of the university. They took their shot, and it backfired tremendously.
 
or angry enough. I'm not going to keep the BS going, but for all the claims I hear about there being a long history of "incidents" with Beard, I found more evidence of crazy stuff with his fiance.
Next time you see Pat Knight ask him about Beard.
 
In 2008 Drake coach Keno Davis was 28-5 ap coach of the year only 35 years old the next upcoming young coach went to Providence failed was fired. Dakich thinks Alford should be coach do you agree with that?
Alford won a lot of games at UCLA, similar to Cronin, and had his current team in the NCAA's the last couple years. However, Dolson would take a PR hit by the moral police fans.

His chances were probably better 8 years ago but Glass preferred Archie. He had UCLA rolling back then.

It does make you wonder about what would have happened if IU could have somehow gracefully had Alford transition as the heir apparent for Knight. Purdue and Keady/Painter somehow made that all work. I would have to think that Alford would have been able to have better success than Davis, Crean, Miller, and Woodson. I'd bet the results would be similar to what Painter has done.
 
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I hate when people make innuendo. If I knew Pat, I would, but since I don't, what do you suspect he would say? I'd have assumed with all the time they worked together it would be positive. You don't think so?
I told you already. It’s posted further up. It wasn’t always positive. Has beard changed some since then? Maybe. There’s enough there to say hell no. The DV incident is documented enough I can’t imagine him being signed off on just because he’s made an elite eight and final 4.
 
Alford won a lot of games at UCLA, similar to Cronin, and had his current team in the NCAA's the last couple years. However, Dolson would take a PR hit by the moral police fans.

His chances were probably better 8 years ago but Glass preferred Archie. He had UCLA rolling back then.

It does make you wonder about what would have happened if IU could have somehow gracefully had Alford transition as the heir apparent for Knight. Purdue and Keady/Painter somehow made that all work. I would have to think that Alford would have been able to have better success than Davis, Crean, Miller, and Woodson. I'd bet the results would be similar to what Painter has done.
Alford is Crean with baggage. No way you dismiss his handling of a victim. Never made it past the sweet 16 and had better recruiting classes. Had like 4 top 5 classes in a row. Plus the PAC 12 wasn’t exactly a murderers row. Howland was better. Way better.
 
Wouldn't you agree that Dolson faced significantly less risk making that decision with a struggling football program than he would with the dusty crown jewel of our athletic department?

No.

Football is so far ahead of what basketball produces for our university that of the two, football is heads and shoulders more important (I'm also not saying he doesn't need to get basketball right, because he does. Football is the more important program).
 
Listen to him? God your nuts. Should have deleted this post. lol.
At least I know the difference between "your" and "you're." lol

Anyhow, I guess you missed other posts where I ripped Dakich and mentioned I saw him being interviewed; I never referred to his show.

Since it's impossible to put you on Ignore for some reason, please refrain from responding to my posts. I prefer to interact with those of similar intellect; it's no fun punching down.
 
After initially zig-zagging from one opinion to another, I've landed at the same place as you. If it's Beard, I'll be confident Dolson & Co. made the best decision for IU basketball. If it's not, I'll be confident they made the best decision for IU basketball.

Some on here view CB as Jesus and most other candidates as mere peasants. Fine. I, for one, am quite confident there are other excellent candidates out there ... it's not Beard or bust.

P.S. I don't envision a universe where it's another former player. For one, IU has learned its lesson. Moreover, I think the Bigfoot Brigade's voice has been neutered by Woody's abject failure as a coach and representative of the university. They took their shot, and it backfired tremendously.
Some envision him as the devil. After 30 years of mediocrity, at best, IU needs a winner. If the only holdup is a DV incident where there were no charges then IU should absolutely hire him as he’s probably the best coach available. If IU wants to sit on its high horse and project something that didn’t happen, well, they deserve to continue to be a shit program for eternity.
 
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He was charged. Not convicted.
hard to be convicted if charges are dropped. I'd say that's closer to "not charged" than not convicted. Hard to be convicted without a trial and they determined they couldn't prove that without her testimony.
 
How many people work for a company that a DV case would get you fired? I bet not any (99.9% would not loose their job) unless it envolved a conviction and jail time where you could not be at work. So why should it affect Beard it has not interfered with his work on the job. HIRE BEARD.
 
I told you already. It’s posted further up. It wasn’t always positive. Has beard changed some since then? Maybe. There’s enough there to say hell no. The DV incident is documented enough I can’t imagine him being signed off on just because he’s made an elite eight and final 4.
Scrolled 4 pages and don't see any reference to where you said what Pat Knight might think of Beard. Feels more like what you think of Beard and you're trying to add creedence to that by implying PK might think the same. Without any idea what you're referencing, sometimes feelings get hurt when folks get let go from a position and then Beard went on to great success at the same school. Tell me what you think PK might think of CB and we might glean whether it's hurt feelings or pertinent.
 
Hiring mid majors doesn't work out most times. IU needs to hire a coach from a Power 5 school who has had success. You take a flyer on a guy like McCollum after 20 other coaches say no.
If McCollum isn’t in the top 20 candidates, then maybe Dolson isn’t the guy that should be doing the search. Stupid comment.
 
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Scrolled 4 pages and don't see any reference to where you said what Pat Knight might think of Beard. Feels more like what you think of Beard and you're trying to add creedence to that by implying PK might think the same. Without any idea what you're referencing, sometimes feelings get hurt when folks get let go from a position and then Beard went on to great success at the same school. Tell me what you think PK might think of CB and we might glean whether it's hurt feelings or pertinent.
They still talk and have a relationship…. What does that mean 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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We could have had Sampson for the past 20 years and won big. Phone calls were a non-issue.

The truth is somewhere in between regarding Beard's DV incident, and his situation can happen to anybody, which is the scary thing. Does he deserve a second chance, and has he learned anything and evolved? That is the 64K question.
He has gotten a second chance at Ole Miss which is hardly a crap school. There was an incident, no question about it, but charges were dropped and nothing since. RMK crossed the line many times, but never fell off the pedestal to most here. Why?
 
At least I know the difference between "your" and "you're." lol

Anyhow, I guess you missed other posts where I ripped Dakich and mentioned I saw him being interviewed; I never referred to his show.

Since it's impossible to put you on Ignore for some reason, please refrain from responding to my posts. I prefer to interact with those of similar intellect; it's no fun punching down.
Awwww poor baby. You remind of a 15 year old girl. Of course I know the difference, I was writing too fast at 5am this morning it looks like laughing at you. You are the middle school girl of the board. I wish everyone could see that you delete 50 posts a day. You know, someone that has supreme confident issues.

Punching down? Shit my guy you can’t even get in the ring with me, go back to YOUR day job, you aren’t on my level on anything :).
 
Awwww poor baby. You remind of a 15 year old girl. Of course I know the difference, I was writing too fast at 5am this morning it looks like laughing at you. You are the middle school girl of the board. I wish everyone could see that you delete 50 posts a day. You know, someone that has supreme confident issues.

Punching down? Shit my guy you can’t even get in the ring with me, go back to YOUR day job, you aren’t on my level on anything :).
Trigger warning. Too easy.

Good day.
 
Chris Beard will join the list of guys IU had a shot with and didn’t go for pushed out or didn’t get.

Enjoy watching them win while IU hangs another morality banner. You clowns should be celebrating all the articles praising us for hanging our 23rd National Nicest Guy in College Basketball plaque after this season and get excited for the next one, know why? Because Chris Collins and Brad Brownell and Ben McCollum and TJ Otzelberger and these other ridiculous suggestions aren’t going to be competitive in the B1G.
 
Scrolled 4 pages and don't see any reference to where you said what Pat Knight might think of Beard. Feels more like what you think of Beard and you're trying to add creedence to that by implying PK might think the same. Without any idea what you're referencing, sometimes feelings get hurt when folks get let go from a position and then Beard went on to great success at the same school. Tell me what you think PK might think of CB and we might glean whether it's hurt feelings or pertinent.
This was the post…

I’m not sure but we have a guy in the IU family who knows Beard pretty well and his last name is legendary. From what I’ve heard he has story after story(told many times) about Beard and they aren’t all good. One of those stories involved the legendary coach’s son’s spouse. Guess what it involved? Lots of libations. Inappropriate behavior and it wasn’t the spouse who did the inappropriate thing.
hard to be convicted if charges are dropped. I'd say that's closer to "not charged" than not convicted. Hard to be convicted without a trial and they determined they couldn't prove that without her testimony.
not sure why you are so for him other than the obvious. I’m not arguing if I like him or don’t like him. I’m simply giving the argument of what I think Scott and Pam probably think of him. I’m sure they know all the stories already.
 
This was the post…

I’m not sure but we have a guy in the IU family who knows Beard pretty well and his last name is legendary. From what I’ve heard he has story after story(told many times) about Beard and they aren’t all good. One of those stories involved the legendary coach’s son’s spouse. Guess what it involved? Lots of libations. Inappropriate behavior and it wasn’t the spouse who did the inappropriate thing.

not sure why you are so for him other than the obvious. I’m not arguing if I like him or don’t like him. I’m simply giving the argument of what I think Scott and Pam probably think of him. I’m sure they know all the stories already.
I'm not advocating for the guy at all. Frankly I like McCollom better. But cmon, this is TMZ stuff.
 
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I'm not advocating for the guy at all. Frankly I like McCollom better. But cmon, this TMZ stuff.
Don’t believe it. So what. He’s a well known drunk. Who makes questionable decisions. He even hired Mark Adams. You seriously think Scott and Pam hires him? No freaking way. I’m not going to argue about it anymore. Just by arguing about him should tell you he’s not a candidate.
 
Alford won a lot of games at UCLA, similar to Cronin, and had his current team in the NCAA's the last couple years. However, Dolson would take a PR hit by the moral police fans.

His chances were probably better 8 years ago but Glass preferred Archie. He had UCLA rolling back then.

It does make you wonder about what would have happened if IU could have somehow gracefully had Alford transition as the heir apparent for Knight. Purdue and Keady/Painter somehow made that all work. I would have to think that Alford would have been able to have better success than Davis, Crean, Miller, and Woodson. I'd bet the results would be similar to what Painter has done.
If we went after Alford, it would have to be at a steep discount. No way we would pay him what we would a coach like Dusty. If he wins for a few years then he gets a raise. Prove it to us first.
 
This was the post…

I’m not sure but we have a guy in the IU family who knows Beard pretty well and his last name is legendary. From what I’ve heard he has story after story(told many times) about Beard and they aren’t all good. One of those stories involved the legendary coach’s son’s spouse. Guess what it involved? Lots of libations. Inappropriate behavior and it wasn’t the spouse who did the inappropriate thing.

not sure why you are so for him other than the obvious. I’m not arguing if I like him or don’t like him. I’m simply giving the argument of what I think Scott and Pam probably think of him. I’m sure they know all the stories already.
Why I'm so for him? I'm not, but have said you've got to at least consider and evaluate him. Have you checked the list of dwindling high-level candidates?

Your "story"? Sounds like it was 15-20 years ago, and most likely involved a bunch of folks having a bunch of drinks and somebody did something dumb or inappropriate? Golly, yes, he's out. I mean that only applies to almost everyone on this board, a few dozen times I'd imagine. That's really where you are; trying to pass off 3rd hand gossip?
 
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