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Daily Hoosier - Khristian Lander in Right Environment to Reach his Potential

KL is ready to break out!
Hope you’re right.

Hard to see it right now though based off what most of us casual fans have seen from him.

What I saw last year would take an incredible leap to be a productive B10 guard.
 
How does he look physically? Last yr you could tell whenever he drove to the bucket he would get knocked off by even minimal contact. My hope is he is putting on muscle to be able to compete. He really did look like a high school senior last yr. I really do root for Lander since he is a southern Indiana kid.
He put on weight, put on muscle. He’s confident, he wasn’t last year. You can’t teach a 43 inch veridical. He will have some head turning moments before 22’, bet on that.
 
Hope you’re right.

Hard to see it right now though based off what most of us casual fans have seen from him.

What I saw last year would take an incredible leap to be a productive B10 guard.

I mean we didn’t see much, he probably had a ten game stretch where he came in for 2-4 mins at the exact same time of the game, and never went back in again.

I mean how stupid does that sound? Archie did it. Thank god he got fired.
 
I mean we didn’t see much, he probably had a ten game stretch where he came in for 2-4 mins at the exact same time of the game, and never went back in again.

I mean how stupid does that sound? Archie did it. Thank god he got fired.
That part Miller got right. KL was a stark defensive liability and the worst shooter on the Team. That being said and contrary to what IUNorth said about him needing "an incredible leap to be a productive B10 guard", that's not the case - scoring isn't going to be an issue for him this year. Won't know about his defense 'til he gets some minutes, but 'productivity' per se is in no way a reach if the glimpses we got in the Bahamas and the comments by his Teammates run true.
 
Hope you’re right.

Hard to see it right now though based off what most of us casual fans have seen from him.

What I saw last year would take an incredible leap to be a productive B10 guard.
You also stated that Mike Woodson was a C- hire. I am a KL backer. KL will be a star for IU in the future. Did you ever see him play in HS?
 
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You also stated that Mike Woodson was a C- hire. I am a KL backer. KL will be a star for IU in the future. Did you ever see him play in HS?
The day he was hired, yes. Things changed pretty quickly after that, and I changed my view of it accordingly. There weren’t many gushing over the hire initially. And they do still need to go out and win some games. But as of today, overall change in leadership and direction I’d give it a B+ or so.

To get an A he’ll have to compete for a B10 title very soon. If Underwood, Howard, and Holtman can do it. I’d say it’s fair to expect this staff to do it. At least for the all important IUNorth A grade. 🙄

Edit…I did see a handful of his high school games, steamed not in person. Saw him play AAU in person once. Saw a couple full AAU games streamed. Probably 6-7 games total. Saw long stretches of disinterest. Lots of flashes of brilliance. Saw much lower ranked kids put up big numbers on him. Definitely saw the potential though.
 
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That part Miller got right. KL was a stark defensive liability and the worst shooter on the Team. That being said and contrary to what IUNorth said about him needing "an incredible leap to be a productive B10 guard", that's not the case - scoring isn't going to be an issue for him this year. Won't know about his defense 'til he gets some minutes, but 'productivity' per se is in no way a reach if the glimpses we got in the Bahamas and the comments by his Teammates run true.
Doubt he plays much with this group if he doesn’t defend and isn’t strong with the ball.
 
I mean we didn’t see much, he probably had a ten game stretch where he came in for 2-4 mins at the exact same time of the game, and never went back in again.

I mean how stupid does that sound? Archie did it. Thank god he got fired.
You have to admit he was really, really bad in those minutes. I was frustrated he didn’t get more minutes too. But he was basically a fence post defensively. Hard to keep a kid on the floor if he’s airballing and not guarding any one.

You could visually see how nervous he was. He never got comfortable offensively. You can explain the poor offense. Defense there was no excuses other than 1) he wasn’t any where near ready physically to play major college ball or 2) he’s lazy.

He looked lazy a lot in high school, and in AAU.

Again though, I issued the disclaimer that I’m just a casual fan. You’ve had a lot more access. Hope you’re right and I’m wrong!!!
 
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Lander is the least important player on the roster this year. Totally irrelevant. If he is better than that, fine. But IU doesn't need him to be productive to be a good team.
 
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Yawn. Same could be said for virtually about every D1 Player.
Why is it a yawn? The response was disagreeing with me that it’d take a big leap for KL to be productive. Using the belief that he’ll be able to score. But not predicting he’d defend. My point is he won’t get much of a chance to score if he doesn’t defend and take care of the ball.

And no, there are a lot of D1 kids out there that aren’t forced to defend in order to play. Basically any player coached by Tom Crean, as an example.
 
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Lander was one of the worst shooters I've ever seen in an IU uniform last year. Going from that to "break out" is going to take time. Leal and Geronimo may break out this year.
 
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Lander was one of the worst shooters I've ever seen in an IU uniform last year.

That was last year, this is a new year and there's this thing that all the kids are trying to do called "improving" ... it's actually not against the rules and happens quite often.

If you don't see the potential in him you're probably too intently looking at his hair.
 
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Why is it a yawn?
Because it's boring and not remotely insightful. As if Woodson would tolerate anything less.

You want to dismiss KL before he sets foot on the Court this Season, go for it, but the simplistic assessment that he is extremely unlikely to be "productive" this year is just empty noise. Last year was last year and whether or not he stuffs the stat sheet in the immediate future, it's far from the entire story.

He's quick and fluid enough that there's little doubt of him giving Parker, X, Rob, Trey and Anthony all they can handle in Practice on offense, and moves and sees the Court well enough that they're all probably learning some things from competing against him. And that's being 'productive', even if it doesn't register on your one-dimensional litmus test.

Few on this Forum were as outspoken last Season about how poorly KL played and how undeserving of minutes he was as I. It wasn't even his crappy offense (productivity) that kept him off the Court (was plenty of that going around), it was the fact that he was just plain awful on defense. Wasn't even that he wasn't quick enough to stay in front of his man, he just couldn't figure out the switching and/or make the right decisions when confronted with screens and would get lost and/or end up out of position as often as not. Figuring that out can be taught and learned - KL has several key attributes that basically can't be and that's why the "incredible leap" take is wide of the mark.

Unless he's just not that bright, it's not much of a leap at all - the lights just have to come on.
 
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Because it's boring and not remotely insightful. As if Woodson would tolerate anything less.

You want to dismiss KL before he sets foot on the Court this Season, go for it, but the simplistic assessment that he is extremely unlikely to be "productive" this year is just empty noise. Last year was last year and whether or not he stuffs the stat sheet in the immediate future, it's far from the entire story.

He's quick and fluid enough that there's little doubt of him giving Parker, X, Rob, Trey and Anthony all they can handle in Practice on offense, and moves and sees the Court well enough that they're all probably learning some things from competing against him. And that's being 'productive', even if it doesn't register on your one-dimensional litmus test.

Few on this Forum were as outspoken last Season about how poorly KL played and how undeserving of minutes he was as I. It wasn't even his crappy offense (productivity) that kept him off the Court (was plenty of that going around), it was the fact that he was just plain awful on defense. Wasn't even that he wasn't quick enough to stay in front of his man, he just couldn't figure out the switching and/or make the right decisions when confronted with screens and would get lost and/or end up out of position as often as not. Figuring that out can be taught and learned - KL has several key attributes that basically can't be and that's why the "incredible leap" take is wide of the mark.

Unless he's just not that bright, it's not much of a leap at all - the lights just have to come on.
So you’re an eternal optimist. That’s cool.

Obviously everyone on the roster can be “productive”. I played 4 years of college basketball and have coached at multiple different levels. The value everyone in the locker room gives is hard to quantify, but it’s very real. I guess maybe I should have issued that disclaimer, but figured it was obvious, I was talking about on court production??

So…if he becomes a main rotation guy. You know actually playing meaningful minutes in real life basketball games. To get to that from what we saw last year would qualify as “come back player of the year” type stuff. His level of “bad” last year, and some of his motor issues I saw in previous years, is a concern for me. Also, he isn’t competing just against Rob, Al, and freshmen Trey and Anthony’s this year for minutes. He’ll have to get better, and then get better more to beat this years other guards out for minutes. I’m sure Woodson will be pushing/hoping for that to happen, because he does have potential to bring different things that out other backcourt guys don’t. But practically…who’s minutes is he going to take? 200 minutes in a game. 30 for TJD…25 for race…25 for X…20 for Miller…20 for Rob…20 for Tamar…20 for Parker…20 for Jordan. Those seam to be the consensus main core players that I’ve heard the most about from summer games and heading into the season opener.

If my math is correct that’s 180 minutes out of 200. Let’s say some of those guys average a few less minutes. So let’s say those 8 average 170 minutes.

30 minutes of time left for Kristian, Trey, Anthony, Michael…

Again, he better get a lot better to become a main rotation guy.

But also again, for the third time now, I’m acknowledging I don’t have the access that Cav has. I’ve only seen what we all saw on the court last year, and then a handful of HS and AAU games. Cav has seen much more out of him. So I hope he’s right.
 
So you’re an eternal optimist. That’s cool.

Obviously everyone on the roster can be “productive”. I played 4 years of college basketball and have coached at multiple different levels. The value everyone in the locker room gives is hard to quantify, but it’s very real. I guess maybe I should have issued that disclaimer, but figured it was obvious, I was talking about on court production??

So…if he becomes a main rotation guy. You know actually playing meaningful minutes in real life basketball games. To get to that from what we saw last year would qualify as “come back player of the year” type stuff. His level of “bad” last year, and some of his motor issues I saw in previous years, is a concern for me. Also, he isn’t competing just against Rob, Al, and freshmen Trey and Anthony’s this year for minutes. He’ll have to get better, and then get better more to beat this years other guards out for minutes. I’m sure Woodson will be pushing/hoping for that to happen, because he does have potential to bring different things that out other backcourt guys don’t. But practically…who’s minutes is he going to take? 200 minutes in a game. 30 for TJD…25 for race…25 for X…20 for Miller…20 for Rob…20 for Tamar…20 for Parker…20 for Jordan. Those seam to be the consensus main core players that I’ve heard the most about from summer games and heading into the season opener.

If my math is correct that’s 180 minutes out of 200. Let’s say some of those guys average a few less minutes. So let’s say those 8 average 170 minutes.

30 minutes of time left for Kristian, Trey, Anthony, Michael…

Again, he better get a lot better to become a main rotation guy.

But also again, for the third time now, I’m acknowledging I don’t have the access that Cav has. I’ve only seen what we all saw on the court last year, and then a handful of HS and AAU games. Cav has seen much more out of him. So I hope he’s right.
Pretty spot on.
And I've seen big boy hoops up close.
K.L. wasn't even the best gaurd in S.W. Indiana when he played..
So ..I sometimes put no stock in rankings..Even those guy's are supposedly paid big cash to know..
K.L. is at this moment. A after thought for me on this team.
If he comes in and is productive..Great ! I'll sing his praises...
 
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So you’re an eternal optimist. That’s cool.

Obviously everyone on the roster can be “productive”. I played 4 years of college basketball and have coached at multiple different levels. The value everyone in the locker room gives is hard to quantify, but it’s very real. I guess maybe I should have issued that disclaimer, but figured it was obvious, I was talking about on court production??

So…if he becomes a main rotation guy. You know actually playing meaningful minutes in real life basketball games. To get to that from what we saw last year would qualify as “come back player of the year” type stuff. His level of “bad” last year, and some of his motor issues I saw in previous years, is a concern for me. Also, he isn’t competing just against Rob, Al, and freshmen Trey and Anthony’s this year for minutes. He’ll have to get better, and then get better more to beat this years other guards out for minutes. I’m sure Woodson will be pushing/hoping for that to happen, because he does have potential to bring different things that out other backcourt guys don’t. But practically…who’s minutes is he going to take? 200 minutes in a game. 30 for TJD…25 for race…25 for X…20 for Miller…20 for Rob…20 for Tamar…20 for Parker…20 for Jordan. Those seam to be the consensus main core players that I’ve heard the most about from summer games and heading into the season opener.

If my math is correct that’s 180 minutes out of 200. Let’s say some of those guys average a few less minutes. So let’s say those 8 average 170 minutes.

30 minutes of time left for Kristian, Trey, Anthony, Michael…

Again, he better get a lot better to become a main rotation guy.

But also again, for the third time now, I’m acknowledging I don’t have the access that Cav has. I’ve only seen what we all saw on the court last year, and then a handful of HS and AAU games. Cav has seen much more out of him. So I hope he’s right.
Good post. Not boring. Suspend my previous judgment.

Hardly an eternal optimist, just weary of premature judgements. Agree that minutes are going to be lean and hard-earned, but the original bone was "productive" which isn't slaved to or a function of minutes. Will concede that am enough of an optimist or some such to expect that everyone who sees the Floor for Woodson is going to be 'productive', and do believe that KL will be among them.

Durr is also going to get some time, but then there's the almost inevitable issue of sprains, deep bruises, cracked/strained /wrenched this and that (and perish forbid anything season-ending) which almost invariably reduces totation strength by 1-2+ Players throughout a Season. IU has three PGs this year - the chance that all of them make it from here to March without any 'issues' is what it will be, but odds are KL is going to be needed before it's time to dance and will have his opportunities.
 
Good post. Not boring. Suspend my previous judgment.

Hardly an eternal optimist, just weary of premature judgements. Agree that minutes are going to be lean and hard-earned, but the original bone was "productive" which isn't slaved to or a function of minutes. Will concede that am enough of an optimist or some such to expect that everyone who sees the Floor for Woodson is going to be 'productive', and do believe that KL will be among them.

Durr is also going to get some time, but then there's the almost inevitable issue of sprains, deep bruises, cracked/strained /wrenched this and that (and perish forbid anything season-ending) which almost invariably reduces totation strength by 1-2+ Players throughout a Season. IU has three PGs this year - the chance that all of them make it from here to March without any 'issues' is what it will be, but odds are KL is going to be needed before it's time to dance and will have his opportunities.
Fair enough...my minutes breakdown was far too simplistic, for sure. It should be categorized by strength of opponent, types of opponents (probably will need more bigs against Purdue, as an example), and then also include the 5 or so "end of bench" minutes that happen organically throughout a season. Also, as you point out, its very likely 1 or more kids from that 11-12 player pool of players that are legitimate candidates for playing time, will be injured in most of our games. It'd depend on who, who we were playing, etc... on if that would help Kristian's chances of playing or not.

I did like the part of the "Breakout Season" article about Woodson acknowledging that Kristian was playing a lot better since Bahamas. That, to me, shows an awareness that he wasn't very good leading up to that point.

I've got nothing against the kid. I just have some doubts on how much he'll ever play and produce in games for us.

He never led his HS team to sectional championship. And his team won more games, including a sectional championship, last year after he left. Those things are red flags to me. Almost as much as watching how clueless he was on the court last year. I have no clue how complex his HS and/or AAU teams programs were. Obviously there's a learning curve when you get to college. But that learning curve, in my experiences is MUCH more about getting used to the speed and physicality of the college game, than it is knowing whether and when to switch on a screen, or step over and help defensively, or whether they can handle the ball without turning it over on half their touches. And while he never really got the chance to get comfortable in a game...he should have gotten used to the speed and physicality via practices at some point last year. And it was evident until the end of the year, that he hadn't. Part of that is on Archie. Part of it is on Kristian. I guess we'll see if Woodson, and his staff, can pull more out of Lander. And if an extra year of growth and maturity makes a big enough difference.

I'll be glad to eat crow! But it will surprise me if he's in our main rotation at any point this season.
 
How does he look physically? Last yr you could tell whenever he drove to the bucket he would get knocked off by even minimal contact. My hope is he is putting on muscle to be able to compete. He really did look like a high school senior last yr. I really do root for Lander since he is a southern Indiana kid.
Agree, I really want him to succeed. I also worry he is too small. 6’2” 185
 
Agree, I really want him to succeed. I also worry he is too small. 6’2” 185
That's not too small. I don't think physical size or athleticism are his limiting factors. He has long arms. He has hops. He's quick. I just question his motor. And his ability to compete in this environment and at this level. Also, he's a point guard...one of the most important attributes a PG should bring is making his teammates better...winning, etc... His HS teams never won a sectional. And his HS team actually got better the year he left early, winning their first sectional in a while without him. Major red flags for me.

Can he change his role and become an instant offense type guy off the bench? And/or can he change what has been his DNA, and become a solid all around player against top level competition? Hope so on either of those questions.
 
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So you’re an eternal optimist. That’s cool.

Obviously everyone on the roster can be “productive”. I played 4 years of college basketball and have coached at multiple different levels. The value everyone in the locker room gives is hard to quantify, but it’s very real. I guess maybe I should have issued that disclaimer, but figured it was obvious, I was talking about on court production??

So…if he becomes a main rotation guy. You know actually playing meaningful minutes in real life basketball games. To get to that from what we saw last year would qualify as “come back player of the year” type stuff. His level of “bad” last year, and some of his motor issues I saw in previous years, is a concern for me. Also, he isn’t competing just against Rob, Al, and freshmen Trey and Anthony’s this year for minutes. He’ll have to get better, and then get better more to beat this years other guards out for minutes. I’m sure Woodson will be pushing/hoping for that to happen, because he does have potential to bring different things that out other backcourt guys don’t. But practically…who’s minutes is he going to take? 200 minutes in a game. 30 for TJD…25 for race…25 for X…20 for Miller…20 for Rob…20 for Tamar…20 for Parker…20 for Jordan. Those seam to be the consensus main core players that I’ve heard the most about from summer games and heading into the season opener.

If my math is correct that’s 180 minutes out of 200. Let’s say some of those guys average a few less minutes. So let’s say those 8 average 170 minutes.

30 minutes of time left for Kristian, Trey, Anthony, Michael…

Again, he better get a lot better to become a main rotation guy.

But also again, for the third time now, I’m acknowledging I don’t have the access that Cav has. I’ve only seen what we all saw on the court last year, and then a handful of HS and AAU games. Cav has seen much more out of him. So I hope he’s right.

I obviously didn’t like how Romeo played right? Ya understatement of the year I know. One of his New Albany trainers in HS I have met through mutual friends a few times. My best friend being that mutual friend. He always said Archie sold romeo on a bag of goods and everything was different when he got on campus. Told him he would be handling the ball and the offense would initiate through him, giving him the availability to choose, free flowing etc. this guy hates Archie.

I obviously thought it was romeos fault. Didn’t really give this guy much thought cuz in my head, he is just gonna say all this cuz Romeo isn’t playing to expectations. Just making excuses, he was the ultimate romeo fanboi in my mind.

now I still think a lot was on romeo and his demeanor. BUT I have been known to go over the top because of emotions before. Maybe a bit of that here……

I say all this because when talking with Lander privately he was not shy at all about telling his story. Was exactly the same. He was told all these promises and obviously that didn’t happen. The most messed up part, is that KL never talked to Archie outside of the facilities. No nexts, no calls, no communication. Archie was like this with almost all the players. Would just go hibernate at his house. The most mest up relationships with his players.

Good news, Woodson is the exact opposite and trying to be the best father figure/roll model he can be for all of them. In good hands now!!!
 
I obviously didn’t like how Romeo played right? Ya understatement of the year I know. One of his New Albany trainers in HS I have met through mutual friends a few times. My best friend being that mutual friend. He always said Archie sold romeo on a bag of goods and everything was different when he got on campus. Told him he would be handling the ball and the offense would initiate through him, giving him the availability to choose, free flowing etc. this guy hates Archie.

I obviously thought it was romeos fault. Didn’t really give this guy much thought cuz in my head, he is just gonna say all this cuz Romeo isn’t playing to expectations. Just making excuses, he was the ultimate romeo fanboi in my mind.

now I still think a lot was on romeo and his demeanor. BUT I have been known to go over the top because of emotions before. Maybe a bit of that here……

I say all this because when talking with Lander privately he was not shy at all about telling his story. Was exactly the same. He was told all these promises and obviously that didn’t happen. The most messed up part, is that KL never talked to Archie outside of the facilities. No nexts, no calls, no communication. Archie was like this with almost all the players. Would just go hibernate at his house. The most mest up relationships with his players.

Good news, Woodson is the exact opposite and trying to be the best father figure/roll model he can be for all of them. In good hands now!!!
Love to hear that! Hate it for KL. I probably have the typical "I wish I had played at IU" chip on my shoulder, that many HS stars/small college players had or have. So when I see someone with KL's obvious abilities, I'm probably harder on him than I should be. He's living through HIS reality. And it sounds like the last year or so wasn't much fun for him. Playing 2 minutes a game for IU, being left alone to my own whims in Bloomington, IN...ummm sign me up!

But having played at a fairly high level...one of my "spidey senses" thats proved to be right more than its been wrong, is calling highly rated kids that likely wouldn't live up to their expectations. Jeremy Hollowell, Hanner Perea, Demezi Anderson are prime examples. After a handful of AAU and high school games, and a season at IU, I had a strong view none of those kids would elevate and become reliable main rotation guys. Experts all thought they would coming into college. Their demeanor, motor, and skill sets versus the roles they'd be asked to play at IU told me they likely wouldn't. And I worry about all that with Kristian.

But one thing I obviously can't account for is the stuff you touched on. And to top that off, going through all that in the Pandemic year.

Man I'd be glad to miss on this call...and maybe I shouldn't even be making it? Who cares what I'm saying anyways?! But man, if KL can become an NBA level PG/Guard...that would elevate IU's chances to compete for Net Cutting, by A LOT!
 
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Pretty spot on.
And I've seen big boy hoops up close.
K.L. wasn't even the best gaurd in S.W. Indiana when he played..
So ..I sometimes put no stock in rankings..Even those guy's are supposedly paid big cash to know..
K.L. is at this moment. A after thought for me on this team.
If he comes in and is productive..Great ! I'll sing his praises...
Curious as to who was better than him in SW Indiana when he played
 
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I obviously didn’t like how Romeo played right? Ya understatement of the year I know. One of his New Albany trainers in HS I have met through mutual friends a few times. My best friend being that mutual friend. He always said Archie sold romeo on a bag of goods and everything was different when he got on campus. Told him he would be handling the ball and the offense would initiate through him, giving him the availability to choose, free flowing etc. this guy hates Archie.

I obviously thought it was romeos fault. Didn’t really give this guy much thought cuz in my head, he is just gonna say all this cuz Romeo isn’t playing to expectations. Just making excuses, he was the ultimate romeo fanboi in my mind.

now I still think a lot was on romeo and his demeanor. BUT I have been known to go over the top because of emotions before. Maybe a bit of that here……

I say all this because when talking with Lander privately he was not shy at all about telling his story. Was exactly the same. He was told all these promises and obviously that didn’t happen. The most messed up part, is that KL never talked to Archie outside of the facilities. No nexts, no calls, no communication. Archie was like this with almost all the players. Would just go hibernate at his house. The most mest up relationships with his players.

Good news, Woodson is the exact opposite and trying to be the best father figure/roll model he can be for all of them. In good hands now!!!
I agree, Romeo took way too much criticism due to our coach being incompetent.
 
Curious as to who was better than him in SW Indiana when he played
Isaiah Swope and Kiryon Powell are a couple lesser heralded kids in his area that I'd say I was more impressed with from the few games I saw of all of them. I'm a Northern Indiana guy though, so that's just based off a few games. Obviously Khristian put up numbers. But when faced with other college level players, in the school ball environment...well his teams lost more games to those teams than they should have...for a good IU level guard type player. And Khristian had another really good player on his team with him...can't remember his name.

The flip side is he had a number of really good AAU tournaments, where he was playing with basically all D1/High major level kids. So he has it in him, obviously. Just worried it won't come out in the more structured college ball type setting.
 
Isaiah Swope and Kiryon Powell are a couple lesser heralded kids in his area that I'd say I was more impressed with from the few games I saw of all of them. I'm a Northern Indiana guy though, so that's just based off a few games. Obviously Khristian put up numbers. But when faced with other college level players, in the school ball environment...well his teams lost more games to those teams than they should have...for a good IU level guard type player. And Khristian had another really good player on his team with him...can't remember his name.

The flip side is he had a number of really good AAU tournaments, where he was playing with basically all D1/High major level kids. So he has it in him, obviously. Just worried it won't come out in the more structured college ball type setting.
Well I coached against Lander in fall league and in SW Indiana he was the best in his class. I will say he has lots to improve upon and it was all about him in high school, but there is some major physical talent there.
I believe Woody will make a player out of him.
 
Well I coached against Lander in fall league and in SW Indiana he was the best in his class. I will say he has lots to improve upon and it was all about him in high school, but there is some major physical talent there.
I believe Woody will make a player out of him.
Oh I'm sure he thrived in that environment. And that's great. That is something to build on. He's a 5 star kid on IU's roster though...he should dominate a fall league though. And there's no questioning he has the physical skills to be really good in any environment. Hope Woodson can tap into the talent and get him to come along!
 
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I hope Lander takes RP’s spot at backup PG.
Me too! I posted before the season last year how important it was for Lander to take minutes from Rob and Al. That if he didn't, that wasn't a good sign for our team. Most misunderstood what I was saying. They thought I was expecting Khristian to start, to take over the team right away. I was just saying if he doesnt, we're not gonna be very good. I had really no expectations for KL heading into last year...similar to this year. To compete for a B10 title, you need high level guards. I'm sorry, Rob and Al are not high level guards. So when it was evident that Kristian, nor any of the other frosh were gonna challenge them for minutes...it was evident we were gonna cap out at bubble level.

X, Parker, and Tamar change that dynamic this year quite a bit...they should anyway. We could compete for a B10 title with out Khristian helping. If he were to step into a prominent role, I think that immediately elevates this team quite a bit. As it implies a much higher baseline, creates more margin for error, etc...
 
KL is ready to break out!
I agree and I think we're in a vast minority to see it that way, but give him something to distribute to and he'll be a Jason Kidd on level of vision, which is NBA vision
 
Isaiah Swope and Kiryon Powell are a couple lesser heralded kids in his area that I'd say I was more impressed with from the few games I saw of all of them. I'm a Northern Indiana guy though, so that's just based off a few games. Obviously Khristian put up numbers. But when faced with other college level players, in the school ball environment...well his teams lost more games to those teams than they should have...for a good IU level guard type player. And Khristian had another really good player on his team with him...can't remember his name.

The flip side is he had a number of really good AAU tournaments, where he was playing with basically all D1/High major level kids. So he has it in him, obviously. Just worried it won't come out in the more structured college ball type setting.
His game is throwing it around, give him talent to work with and he'll be right back at his game. Plus he's a lot closer to his floor than his ceiling. He's probably a 4 year player that just got off on a shitty start due to system and misuse, he needs to work on confidence and I'm gonna do what ever the hell and you can't stop me kind of attitude. He has the talent
 
Pretty spot on.
And I've seen big boy hoops up close.
K.L. wasn't even the best gaurd in S.W. Indiana when he played..
So ..I sometimes put no stock in rankings..Even those guy's are supposedly paid big cash to know..
K.L. is at this moment. A after thought for me on this team.
If he comes in and is productive..Great ! I'll sing his praises...
who was better in SW indiana?
 
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That's not too small. I don't think physical size or athleticism are his limiting factors. He has long arms. He has hops. He's quick. I just question his motor. And his ability to compete in this environment and at this level. Also, he's a point guard...one of the most important attributes a PG should bring is making his teammates better...winning, etc... His HS teams never won a sectional. And his HS team actually got better the year he left early, winning their first sectional in a while without him. Major red flags for me.

Can he change his role and become an instant offense type guy off the bench? And/or can he change what has been his DNA, and become a solid all around player against top level competition? Hope so on either of those questions.
.. am not sure why you are so down on KL, but at least post the truth. KL led Reitz to a sectional championship his junior year, the covid year, and the regional was cancelled.. Reitz beat Castle 69-61, and KL had 16 points in 2 3/4 quarters of play (foul trouble). KL hit a crucial 3 and made 7 straight free throws inthe 4th q to seal the game. KL only had 2 seasons as THE starter at Reitz, and did win a sectional.

NO player in southern Indiana was even close to KL in talent and dominance his junior year. You give up and rip on a player that had NO summer of weights and practice due to covid. This is KL's true freshman year. Give him a couple years... too many IU "fans" give up on a player as an underclassman. Young players mature and get better, stronger, more confident,and the game "slows down". KL can play.
 
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