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Congrats to Thomas Bryant

Me too, but no one ever told me I couldn't do better. They told me the opposite and I believed them. The government didn't say they'd take care of me either.

It’s funny when folks say that and then you actually look at the deets. Like Kentuckians say they are pull-themselves-up-by-their-boot-straps-type of folks but a fifth of their GDP comes from federal spending.............
 
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Me too, but no one ever told me I couldn't do better. They told me the opposite and I believed them. The government didn't say they'd take care of me either.

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There are posters/fans who genuinely believe there are elite recruits who care more about “the glory of ol IU” than they do about earning one of these contracts.

Think about that level of insanity for a second. They’re living among us.
 
There are posters/fans who genuinely believe there are elite recruits who care more about “the glory of ol IU” than they do about earning one of these contracts.

Think about that level of insanity for a second. They’re living among us.
There will always be the odd elite recruit who wants a substantive, high quality college education in addition to ultimately getting paid a lot in the NBA. Schools like Stanford, Northwestern, and for some majors, Indiana, come to mind.
 
And THAT is why players leave college early and not risk injury at the college level without getting their first pro contract! Thomas was a McDonald's All-American and a NBA prospect out of HS, that wisely chose IU for college and now has a successful NBA career.

"When it was over in 2002, he bounced around some more. He worked for a car dealership in the Chicago area and later as a technician for a pipe supplier in Bay St. Louis, Miss. Anywhere but home. Anything but basketball."
Congrats to Jay Edwards on a wise career choice.
 
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There will always be the odd elite recruit who wants a substantive, high quality college education in addition to ultimately getting paid a lot in the NBA. Schools like Stanford, Northwestern, and for some majors, Indiana, come to mind.

You mean like the Big Ten's all-time leading scorer Calber Cheaney? Or is "elite" only a special moniker for players who make the NBA without achieving anything in college?
 
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You mean like the Big Ten's all-time leading scorer Calber Cheaney? Or is "elite" only a special moniker for players who make the NBA without achieving anything in college?
A lot has changed in the last 25-30 years. If Calbert was in school now, I don't see him staying all 4 years.
 
There will always be the odd elite recruit who wants a substantive, high quality college education in addition to ultimately getting paid a lot in the NBA. Schools like Stanford, Northwestern, and for some majors, Indiana, come to mind.
What elite basketball players go to Northwestern?

All colleges have good majors. IU is very mediocre academically. It’s not a differentiator for us.

I agree a lot of kids want back up options. But the real dream is that NBA contract. Thomas Bryant will make more in this 3 year contract than 99.99% of college graduates will make in their entire careers.
 
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What elite basketball players go to Northwestern?

All colleges have good majors. IU is very mediocre academically. It’s not a differentiator for us.

I agree a lot of kids want back up options. But the real dream is that NBA contract. Thomas Bryant will make more in this 3 year contract than 99.99% of college graduates will make in their entire careers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Eschmeyer

Wikipedia under "Indiana University Bloomington":
"Indiana University is a "Public Ivy" university[7] and consistently ranks in the top 100 national universities in the U.S. and among the top 50 public universities. It is a member of the Association of American Universities and has numerous schools and programs, including the Jacobs School of Music, the School of Informatics, Computing, and Engineering, the O'Neill School of Public and Environmental Affairs, the Kelley School of Business, the School of Public Health, the School of Nursing, the School of Optometry, the Maurer School of Law, the School of Education, the Media School, and the Hamilton Lugar School of Global and International Studies.[8]"

I will add that if you want to study Central Asia Languages, or foreign languages in general, including their literatures, or journalism, IU is perenially one of the best places.

Also: https://sice.indiana.edu/about/facilities/index.html

So it's embarrasing that you, an IU fan, would be saying IU is very mediocre.
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Eschmeyer

Wikipedia under "Indiana University Bloomington":
"Indiana University is a "Public Ivy" university[7] and consistently ranks in the top 100 national universities in the U.S. and among the top 50 public universities. It is a member of the Association of American Universities and has numerous schools and programs, including the Jacobs School of Music, the School of Informatics, Computing, and Engineering, the O'Neill School of Public and Environmental Affairs, the Kelley School of Business, the School of Public Health, the School of Nursing, the School of Optometry, the Maurer School of Law, the School of Education, the Media School, and the Hamilton Lugar School of Global and International Studies.[8]"

I will add that if you want to study Central Asia Languages, or foreign languages in general, including their literatures, or journalism, IU is perenially one of the best places.

So it's embarrasing that you, an IU fan, would be saying IU is very mediocre.
It's a good school but someone calling it a "public Ivy" is a stretch.
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Eschmeyer

Wikipedia under "Indiana University Bloomington":
"Indiana University is a "Public Ivy" university[7] and consistently ranks in the top 100 national universities in the U.S. and among the top 50 public universities. It is a member of the Association of American Universities and has numerous schools and programs, including the Jacobs School of Music, the School of Informatics, Computing, and Engineering, the O'Neill School of Public and Environmental Affairs, the Kelley School of Business, the School of Public Health, the School of Nursing, the School of Optometry, the Maurer School of Law, the School of Education, the Media School, and the Hamilton Lugar School of Global and International Studies.[8]"

I will add that if you want to study Central Asia Languages, or foreign languages in general, including their literatures, or journalism, IU is perenially one of the best places.

Also: https://sice.indiana.edu/about/facilities/index.html

So it's embarrasing that you, an IU fan, would be saying IU is very mediocre.
I have two IU degrees. I love the school. But let’s not act like we’re Harvard. Top 100 in the country is not really elite. It’s a good school with a few great programs.
 
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All colleges have good majors. IU is very mediocre academically. It’s not a differentiator for us.

I agree a lot of kids want back up options.

It's a good school but someone calling it a "public Ivy" is a stretch.

context:
  1. Greene, Howard R.; Greene, Matthew W. (2001). The Public Ivies: America's Flagship Public Universities (1st ed.). New York: Cliff Street Books. ISBN 978-0060934590.

I have two IU degrees. I love the school. But let’s not act like we’re Harvard. Top 100 in the country is not really elite. It’s a good school with a few great programs.

Kindly read what I wrote before, which you took issue with: some majors at Indiana. The School of Music is routinely number one for violin and opera. If we, hypothetically speaking, had a bball recruit of highest quality who also was brilliant at violin or was a great tenor. . . you get the picture.

Ditto all the programs I listed in my follow-up. You have no case, and no one claimed IU is Harvard. Please don't engage in argumentum ad dumb (argumentum ad lapidem).
 
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context:
  1. Greene, Howard R.; Greene, Matthew W. (2001). The Public Ivies: America's Flagship Public Universities (1st ed.). New York: Cliff Street Books. ISBN 978-0060934590.



Kindly read what I wrote before, which you took issue with: some majors at Indiana. The School of Music is routinely number one for violin and opera. If we, hypothetically speaking, had a bball recruit of highest quality who also was brilliant at violin or was a great tenor. . . you get the picture.

Ditto all the programs I listed in my follow-up. You have no case, and no one claimed IU is Harvard. Please don't engage in argumentum ad dumb (argumentum ad lapidem).

You each have differing opinions (although IMHO they are not that far apart) and you each have made your argument. Its now time to do as Ian Fleming said, and "Live and Let Live."
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Eschmeyer

Wikipedia under "Indiana University Bloomington":
"Indiana University is a "Public Ivy" university[7] and consistently ranks in the top 100 national universities in the U.S. and among the top 50 public universities. It is a member of the Association of American Universities and has numerous schools and programs, including the Jacobs School of Music, the School of Informatics, Computing, and Engineering, the O'Neill School of Public and Environmental Affairs, the Kelley School of Business, the School of Public Health, the School of Nursing, the School of Optometry, the Maurer School of Law, the School of Education, the Media School, and the Hamilton Lugar School of Global and International Studies.[8]"

I will add that if you want to study Central Asia Languages, or foreign languages in general, including their literatures, or journalism, IU is perenially one of the best places.

Also: https://sice.indiana.edu/about/facilities/index.html

So it's embarrasing that you, an IU fan, would be saying IU is very mediocre.
He's not an IU fan. He's an anti-IU troll. He's a founding member of the Negative Nancy Whine and Troll Club. The next positive thing he says about IU or IU sports will probably be his first - or it will be followed up with his usual anti-IU troll crap.
 
What elite basketball players go to Northwestern?

All colleges have good majors. IU is very mediocre academically. It’s not a differentiator for us.

I agree a lot of kids want back up options. But the real dream is that NBA contract. Thomas Bryant will make more in this 3 year contract than 99.99% of college graduates will make in their entire careers.
Go pound sand if you think IU is mediocre academically. Dumb*%#!
 
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You each have differing opinions (although IMHO they are not that far apart) and you each have made your argument. Its now time to do as Ian Fleming said, and "Live and Let Live."
*Live and let die ..
 
IU is great at what IU is trying to be. We’re not trying to be Harvard or even Michigan. Different missions.

But it makes sense you’d be a total dick even in a discussion about school rankings.

It’s friday early in the afternoon and you’ve already hit the douche trifecta. Congrats!
The guy obviously hates IU. He’s such a bad troll he can’t disguise the fact that he’s no fan of IU.
 
IU is great at what IU is trying to be. We’re not trying to be Harvard or even Michigan. Different missions.

But it makes sense you’d be a total dick even in a discussion about school rankings.

It’s friday early in the afternoon and you’ve already hit the douche trifecta. Congrats!
I’m just being objective and realistic. And brought the facts. I can’t make you accept them.
 
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