CBS Sports interviewed Cignetti about the cost of building a roster
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Good insight in that article. It’s got to stink knowing your good players are getting big offers all the time. I worry about it and I’m just a fan.
I’d guess we are like $16M rev share and something like $7M NIL for football for something a little below $25M total for football. That’s huge progress on NIL in two years, but the big programs are $35-40M total. We probably won’t ever reach that level, but I think we could get to $30M someday and be 75% of the big programs. It’s not easy for Scott and our generous donors, but we have to keep growing our NIL…
I’d guess we are like $16M rev share and something like $7M NIL for football for something a little below $25M total for football. That’s huge progress on NIL in two years, but the big programs are $35-40M total. We probably won’t ever reach that level, but I think we could get to $30M someday and be 75% of the big programs. It’s not easy for Scott and our generous donors, but we have to keep growing our NIL…
You have to wonder if these big pocket people will tire of putting that kind of money out.
Depends on if the expectations of the big money is met....
Yea. I have no idea. It’s not much of their net worth but it still adds up.
One wonders if revenue-sharing with the schools & athletes becomes the rule, will NIL be discouraged.
I don't ever foresee that happening, but I think there will come a time where long term player/school agreements are required. Meaning the big schools will need to pony up for HS recruits who may or may not pan out in 4 years and if they want to replace them with a transfer, they will need to pay a buyout to a school. In that case, it will begin to level the financial playing field because money would funnel from top programs, directly to the lower programs, which helps slowly elevate their offers to new recruits.
This will help halt the mass exodus, maintain more parity across the larger schools and allow for the small schools to retain more of their talent.
It's still TBD if the rev share contracts have more teeth and help cut down on transfers. They should, these are contracts directly with the schools to play football, but I don't know. We'll see. I don't mind the players making bank, but I would like to see them with more pro-like contracts.
Without collective bargaining, it probably going to stay fairly wild regardless.
Without collective bargaining, it probably going to stay fairly wild regardless.
I would think contracts SHOULD be the same for every school (like length of contract for HS recruits, etc) but you know it would go to court and players would say that is unfair.
Wonder if we can setup a players union like in the pros and they can agree to terms that are applied to all schools.
If it isn't applied to all schools, then putting in restrictions would be a competitive disadvantage and wouldn't likely happen.
If it was up to me, HS recruits would have to sign a contract for staying at their school for 3 years with penalties for leaving early. (earlier you leave, larger the penalty). Then transfer portal would be mostly seniors and redshirt juniors (and those that wanted out no matter the cost). Although maybe being able to buy yourself out of the contract wouldn't work because the new school would just pay the player's buyout to steal them.
I'm really going to cheer against Texas Tech this year. Would love to see them throw all that money out there for no good at all. You can buy players, but you still gotta buy the right ones. And still coach them up. But what a complete mess it all is, right now. And I don't see it changing. Even if they make rules with a salary cap, or whatever you want to call it, teams like O$U will still pay them under the table on top of that.
Yea, this would be collective bargaining. The schools and the NCAA don't want this because it would likely result in the players getting more money. A big reason we're in this mess is the players had to go to court to get paid and that resulted in this crappy structure with NIL and rev share.
I don't know... this stuff gets tiring. I'm just looking forward to the actual games at this point. We should hopefully be pretty darn good.
I think NIL is so crazy because everyone is blowing out their collectives before its regulated. I am hopeful this is the worst.
I can't see how the upcoming agreement is going to change NIL amounts in the slightest though. That's a pipe dream. All they can do is determine what schools pay in. Which will still someday get blown out of the water until it's a collective bargaining agreement. The only hope for limits is reducing number of transfers or other restrictions, and they have to find a way to beat back the courts on that as they've already lost some cases.
With Cig and staff, I believe we have as good a chance as anyone to field a good team under this wild west money 'system' though. We're in good hands! I hope the school/admin staff is on top of analytics for all the sports to help the coaches out. Money ball...
I chuckled at this typo: "For coaches like Cignetti, coming off a terrific season, there is baited breath trying to get through this final portal window " ... See, our guy is even baiting his breath to lure players in. Going all out.
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It was speculated IUFB was around 13 million in NIL in '24.
It's crazy to think that dips to 7 million in '25 coming off one of the best seasons in school history when fans are feeling the immense momentum of the program.
$13M was some estimate for all our collectives, including what is going to bball. Last year our FB roster was $4.5M or something like that from what I can tell. Someone may have a better number.
NIL is up this year, exactly how much I can only guess/estimate. Cig seems reasonably happy and says positive things publicly. But of course we have a ways to go vs the big schools. Just getting closer to them is a win vs where we were 18 months ago.
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I remember hearing rumors Cig was promised 5 million. And later asked in one of the longer sit down interviews by one of these Indiana sites, about the NIL situation, and he said "It's good. More than I was promised."
So I always guessed about 7+ after that. Or at least well over 5 .
So I always guessed about 7+ after that. Or at least well over 5 .
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No way I believe the average IU football player NIL payday was 50k versus an average IU basketball player NIL of 500k. A 1:10 ratio.
4.5 million sounds more like what the Poors at Purdue and Northwestern spent on football.
The report that had IUFB at 13 million in NIL last season also had Ohio St. and the handful of big football spenders in the low 20 million range, which seems in line with other reporting of NIL I've seen.
4.5 million sounds more like what the Poors at Purdue and Northwestern spent on football.
The report that had IUFB at 13 million in NIL last season also had Ohio St. and the handful of big football spenders in the low 20 million range, which seems in line with other reporting of NIL I've seen.
That $13M number was our whole collective, it's right here https://nil-ncaa.com/big10/. We were no where near OSU FB's roster spend, not even the same zip code, just compare the players.
That's how I see it, believe whatever you like. Bottom line is we are making serious progress, we started from the bottom of the barrel of the conference.
That's how I see it, believe whatever you like. Bottom line is we are making serious progress, we started from the bottom of the barrel of the conference.
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I think Purdue was more than that. They seemingly had a decent amount of talent. I had always heard 7 mil. And odom seems to be getting most of the players he wants, so not sure NIL is an issue at Purdue.
Oh, the good old days, when a player just wanted to play for good old Ivy.
Collective bargaining is the key. And probably the only thing the courts will except.
