Brad Stevens: 10 yrs 200M...come on down....
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I am so tired of watching Woodson coached teams. These last few games the last ****ing time I gain any hope while he is here.
Not happening. Got to move beyond this dream.
Pure conjecture… but I don’t think it’s the amount of money that’s any sort of barrier to Stevens getting back in to college coaching, and specifically coaching at IU.
He does have a level of interest in it, seemingly. Or he wouldn’t have entertained it 4 years ago.
I think the overall job of coaching college bball nowadays is the main barrier. And with IU, the power structure and overall organization in and around the program, probably sealed it for him.
We’re like the Cowboys or the Knicks…with stubborn relics running the program, wanting things to be like the old days…and not willing to step aside and allow people that would know how to get IU basketball, in todays world, to get back to being elite like it was in the 70s through early 90s.
Someone like Stevens wouldn’t ever choose to be a part of that situation.
He does have a level of interest in it, seemingly. Or he wouldn’t have entertained it 4 years ago.
I think the overall job of coaching college bball nowadays is the main barrier. And with IU, the power structure and overall organization in and around the program, probably sealed it for him.
We’re like the Cowboys or the Knicks…with stubborn relics running the program, wanting things to be like the old days…and not willing to step aside and allow people that would know how to get IU basketball, in todays world, to get back to being elite like it was in the 70s through early 90s.
Someone like Stevens wouldn’t ever choose to be a part of that situation.
That ship has long since sailed... Besides Brad just recently posted on here that he's not interested 😉🍺
Obviously that’s likely. But he did consider it 4 years ago. And A LOT has changed in his life since then, both professionally and personally. That could push him further away from college coaching. But maybe not?
You just haven’t been talking to the guys at the car wash.
They know. They’ve always known.
Last time he ran a program NIL and portal were not a thing. Landscape is so different now. And our program is a mess. Not sure what selling points we’d have….maybe Crean could call him and explain “It’s Indiana” ?
Brad’s response would be “ yeah…exactly…hard pass”.
For sure. But maybe he’d see some correlation to rebuilding the Celtics team and roster, to NIL and portal dynamics? Also might give him more certainty he could be successful, more quickly.
Look man, I’m just trying to offer some realistic possibilities to keep the dream alive.
And I’m not so certain he would end up being the dream coach we all think he was/is. I think there are probably coaches dealing with the portal now and coaching today’s 18-22 year old young men, that would be better at IU than Stevens.
But there’s no question he’d be very good at IU. And I think he’d be one of the few guys that could weather a bad season or two, and actually rebuild IU basketballs culture, and reshape the entire program both in and out of the offices and locker rooms.
I don’t know what kind of person Dolson is, but he might end up having a worry that he might be hiring his own replacement if Stevens were to take the job.
We can sell top 5 or 10 NIL and we have great fan support. If we ever get good, it's pretty amazing.
Brad runs the Celts and has made great moves. NIL would be easy. I doubt he forgot how to coach, he couldn't be more connected to modern basketball. Unfortunately, he's a 1% chance.
Hired by the Celtics 11.5 years ago. How many 16, 17, 18 year-olds coming up know anything about what happened at Butler back in the day?
I fell for this dream four years ago, and swallowed it hook line and sinker. I may be a prick, but I’m not emotionally strong enough to believe in this dream again. It’s like Lucy holding that football, at some point Charlie Brown realizes the ball is not gonna be there when my leg swings through, and I’m gonna wind up flat on my ass looking up at the stars feeling like a fool again.
None. But all their parents, coaches, handlers do.
And even if his Celtics ties didn’t have any influence (they would). He was still a very good basketball coach. And he showed a willingness and ability to change his basketball specific beliefs and concepts. Both in coaching and then in managing.
It isn’t likely to happen. I think that’s obvious. But IF…all the old guard, old money, would very openly “step aside”, and allow the AD to take the program back over…and some sort of plan could be put in place to give Stevens the power to setup IU basketball how he thinks a basketball organization should be run. IU would likely become a monster in short order. And it could become a sustainable monster.
Stevens probably isn’t interested in that challenge. And we’re less than a year removed from seeing how interested the old guard and old money are with giving up their power and influence.
And whats sad, those 16,17 and 18 year old's parents most likely dont remember when IU was on top. Absolutelty sad.
Apply that logic to CMW and what do you have? The mess we have now.
The GM of the Boston Effing Celtics doesn't resign to coach a college basketball team. I know you all know this, but some here seem willfully obtuse and it makes the rest of us look like morons by association. Cut it out.
Boy I sure would love to see how Stevens would do in the portal every spring and summer. Also kids like Sisley would stay entire career and be the better for it.
I have no idea how long Stevens stays in Boston, or what he does later. But he's not coming to coach Indiana Basketball. That I'm sure of. Why would he do that?
How many times do we have to say things like “it’s obviously not likely.” It is not, at all, likely. But there’s no harm in talking about it. Stevens himself talked about it and considered it 4 years ago.
But his kids are in college now. One of them at Notre Dame. His entire family is from Indiana.
I’m in management…one of the very real and likely paths I’m going to take when my kids are all in college is going back to being a sales rep. There’s more money and less responsibility in it. Maybe there are distinctions between coaching in college and NBA management that would give him more freedom to be around his family more? Maybe the private plane trips 20-30 times a year for recruiting, then the road trips…pencils out to “less” than the daily grind of running an NBA franchise.
LMAO...shutter that mfer and liquidate all assets. Assets to arrive across the parking lot at Cignetti's penthouse!!!
I guess we will wait and see but it is not a zero chance that he is the next coach.
You could be right, but the question is: Would he be happy doing it?
Used to be you just recruited high school kids and kept them around and developed them. Now, you still have that but you have to re-recruit your guys each year and look for new guys coming through the portal. Add in NIL. That’s got to be a full-time job, and that’s before you even get to the actual coaching part of the job.
I think you’ll likely see more basketball and football coaches getting out of the game due to all this crap.
People dramatically over estimate the allure of coaching at IU. Every coaching search the most ridiculous list of names get thrown around as if they'd all drop their sweet gigs to come to Bloomington. Then we get the likes of Miller and Woodson. (Even Kentucky had to go to a former player.)
IU's next coach will not be one of these Big Names. Forget Brad Stevens, Jay Wright, Bruce Pearl, Billy Donovan, etc. No one is going to load up the Brinks Truck and lure these guys here. It's not happening, regardless of how many background scenarios we conjure up and project onto them.
Hell, Mike Woodson might still be the coach next season.
Look, let him bask in his success at ridding the country of the drone scourge.
But everyone knows, at one point, the IU job did have a huge allure to Brad Stevens. I imagine the romantic thoughts of winning a Natty at IU, hanging that 6th banner, being associated with RMK…is still there. The rest of the guys you mentioned…no…they’ve never had any connection to IU.
But…for the 100th time, the pro and con list is likely heavily on the con side for someone in Steven’s current position. It isn’t likely.
But to completely discount the unique connection between Steven’s and “Indiana Basketball” as a whole. And to lesser extent Indiana University Basketball… well, it’s just as unnecessary as those of us floating potential reasons he might consider it. Indiana University men’s basketball program, when even just solid, let alone good…is the flagship and crown jewel program for all of Indiana Basketball as a whole. For Brad Stevens specifically…you don’t think leading that has any allure? Hmmm. I bet you’re wrong. It’s just a question of how much versus the realities of the job versus his current setup.
This is probably the best timing we’ve ever had for Brad. Kids are grown. Son is a walk on at ND. And with the NIL and portal recruiting is really just a transaction now and he could do most of his recruiting without ever leaving Bloomington. The things he hated about recruiting before are mostly gone.
That said, it’s a long shot. Good chance Dolson hires Dusty.
You're projecting your own feelings about IU Basketball onto the General Manager of the Celtics. We have no idea what Stevens thinks about IUBB, beyond him (allegedly) once commenting that it was his Dream Job as a kid. Aside from that he has no "Unique Connection" with the school other than those fabricated by people here. He hasn't coached college basketball in over a decade. You are all welcome to speculate about Stevens every year I guess, but it seems pointless.
I think Dusty’s buyout details, if I remember them correctly, are actually a clear sign him leaving Michigan after 1 year to come to IU is a possibility.
Hes not my top choice. He could change that with a B10 title, or near B10 title, and a deep tourney run. I just get some on the court Crean vibes from his teams. And my gut tells me there are better guys out there. McCollum maybe.
i'm sure dolson will make him say no again. you gotta try.
He’s been on record, numerous times, talking about IU being his dream job. There’s the infamous IU clause in his Butler contract.
Speculating on an anonymous message board is obviously pointless. There are tons of things I should be doing right now. But shooting down these far fetched theories is just as pointless.
And you seem to have missed the tie in I put with “Indiana Basketball” as a whole. There can be no question he has ties to that, and has openly talked about its importance to him many, many times.
There are countless stories, in sports and otherwise, of successful people stepping back and coming home. As unlikely as it is for Stevens to do that, right now…it wouldn’t be a total shock if he did. Probably less so for people outside Indiana that aren’t as close to it. For them it’d be…”hmm, he’s going home…makes sense”.
He has more of connection than most IU fans. His dad played football at IU and Brad grew up going to games. He has showed interest in the job and he will be contacted about the job opening. Whether or not he takes it remains to be seen. But he wasn’t pretending to be President of the Celtics as a 10 year old.
Schlabach: Butler's Stevens turns coaching dream into realityA few years ago, Brad Stevens walked away from the business world and chased his coaching dream. Butler is glad he did.
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Some will get out, likely the old guard that don’t agree philosophically with NIL, but I’d say we’ll just see more embrace a professional sports structure with GM- like positions becoming more prominent. Coaches do the recruiting while those folks handle the business end…
A former college coach with NBA front office experience will be perfect for the new college basketball environment.
It will, but I don't see Stevens leaving one of the best jobs in pro sports to make us happy.
We're going to need a coach come spring. Brad to IU by then seems rather fantastical.
I doubt Stevens has ruled out the IU job in his own mind, but come spring I don't think he's a candidate.
He knows this will be the last time the job will be open during his career. Should be fascinating to see how this plays out.
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