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Bomba and Garl.

IUMD98 said:
They don’t.
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I see your screen name, so hopefully you can answer this.

I've heard many guys say that when they went into the military, they were given the finger treatment. Including my father when he was drafted and went to Vietnam. I'm wondering if maybe this was more common with the older generation of doctors? Maybe as science and technology have evolved, it's now realized this isn't required for younger men therefore it doesn't make sense now? I know Bamba is a very old dude, so you have to figure some of what he was originally taught is no longer valid. Definitely not sticking up for him, but generally curious about what's at play.
 
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MTBRider22 said:
I see your screen name, so hopefully you can answer this.

I've heard many guys say that when they went into the military, they were given the finger treatment. Including my father when he was drafted and went to Vietnam. I'm wondering if maybe this was more common with the older generation of doctors? Maybe as science and technology have evolved, it's now realized this isn't required for younger men therefore it doesn't make sense now? I know Bamba is a very old dude, so you have to figure some of what he was originally taught is no longer valid. Definitely not sticking up for him, but generally curious about what's at play.
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You are 100 percent correct. When Dr. Bomba went through training it was standard for rectal exams to be done on routine physicals. Times change and standards of care evolve. I went through med school and residency during the time of some of these allegations and at that time we were not taught to do routine rectal exams on adolescent/young adults. I have no doubt that Dr. Bomba was not doing this for any sexual pleasure but just as part of what he considered a routine physical.
 
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MTBRider22 said:
I see your screen name, so hopefully you can answer this.

I've heard many guys say that when they went into the military, they were given the finger treatment. Including my father when he was drafted and went to Vietnam. I'm wondering if maybe this was more common with the older generation of doctors? Maybe as science and technology have evolved, it's now realized this isn't required for younger men therefore it doesn't make sense now? I know Bamba is a very old dude, so you have to figure some of what he was originally taught is no longer valid. Definitely not sticking up for him, but generally curious about what's at play.
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My dad was US Army doc. In 60s. Said he did it a fair amount and he was an OBGYN resident, so...

I'd ask Bomba: out of all the DREs you did on IU athletes, did any ever amount to any sort of positive finding?

If he's 0-150...well...

Nothing really needs to be said then.
 
UTFO said:
My dad was US Army doc. In 60s. Said he did it a fair amount and he was an OBGYN resident, so...

I'd ask Bomba: out of all the DREs you did on IU athletes, did any ever amount to any sort of positive finding?

If he's 0-150...well...

Nothing really needs to be said then.
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Hmmmm...not really sure doctors are trained to think like that. What if the 151st had some serious issue that could have been treated, but the doctor was tired of doing the exam?
 
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IUMD98 said:
When Dr. Bomba went through training it was standard for rectal exams to be done on routine physicals. Times change and standards of care evolve. I went through med school and residency during the time of some of these allegations and at that time we were not taught to do routine rectal exams on adolescent/young adults.
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Bolded is the key.

I'm 70 years old and have been diagnosed with prostate cancer. However, it's of a type that doesn't grow (at least not much) and doesn't usually metastasize, so the current medical wisdom is to just keep an eye on it and not get excited -- odds are I'll die of something else long before the prostate cancer does me in. Point being, this is a relatively recent approach; in the not too distant past they would have freaked out about the C-Word and wanted to cut.

I have to believe that Bomba was following the protocol that was standard at the time.
 
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UncleMark said:
Bolded is the key.

I'm 70 years old and have been diagnosed with prostate cancer. However, it's of a type that doesn't grow (at least not much) and doesn't usually metastasize, so the current medical wisdom is to just keep an eye on it and not get excited -- odds are I'll die of something else long before the prostate cancer does me in. Point being, this is a relatively recent approach; in the not too distant past they would have freaked out about the C-Word and wanted to cut.

I have to believe that Bomba was following the protocol that was standard at the time.
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He was not following the standard of care when Charlie Miller was playing.
 
IUMD98 said:
He was not following the standard of care when Charlie Miller was playing.
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How often do old practitioners change the way they have operated for years? My mom was an old school country doctor, same vintage as Bomba. Her ongoing education consisted of a subscription to JAMA and whatever the drug reps told her was the latest and greatest new thing.
 
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It's Miller and haris mujezinovic on this case isn't it? I'm not sure how many physicals Brad Bomba gave over 40 years but one would believe that Coach would've heard something and went ape shit. Pat was around at that time, no way anything inappropriate went on. However, I had a USMC enlistment physical in 89' and it didn't involve invasive rectal checking.
 
I’ve been in practice for 25 years. This is pure and utter horseshit. When I started practice in 2000, the founder of my practice who opened up in the early 70’s was doing rectals on a lot of men and pelvics on a lot of women that made me scratch my head at the time. Now after all these years I understand. He does what he was trained to do. It’s very difficult to change ingrained habits. I was taught as dogmatic in med school that every woman after menopause needs to be on hormone replacement therapy. We now know that is false but it took me some time to come to terms with that. This is a pure cash grab and these former players (unless some really weird shit comes out of this story) should be drawn and quartered
 
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UncleMark said:
How often do old practitioners change the way they have operated for years? My mom was an old school country doctor, same vintage as Bomba. Her ongoing education consisted of a subscription to JAMA and whatever the drug reps told her was the latest and greatest new thing.
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That is the problem. He didn’t adjust to the changing times.
All4You said:
But Bomba wasn't
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no he wasn’t but he didn’t adjust to the changing times. As a physician you cannot keep practicing outdated techniques any longer. Again this was nothing sexual but the payers went through an embarrassing, uncomfortable and unnecessary exam. Does it warrant a lawsuit probably not but that’s the way things are these days.
 
IUMD98 said:
Again this was nothing sexual but the payers went through an embarrassing, uncomfortable and unnecessary exam. Does it warrant a lawsuit probably not but that’s the way things are these days.
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They're all unnecessary if they don't find anything, aren't they?
 
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