Blue Blood programs don’t settle for barely recognizable Mid Major coaches. If IU isn’t considering Beard or Wade , it just shows they are not serious about becoming a powerhouse again. Wade proved his abilities at LSU and Beard would kill it at IU. If no elite coaches want to come , well I guess the program is dead. However , I’m sure a certain amount of $$$ would bring them. Offer Pitino or Wright $12 million a year for 5 years. Tired of the scared IU mentality and approach. College hoops is a business now and they need to act accordingly.
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College basketball has changed and IU has yet to figure out how. NIL availability doesn’t add as much advantage to “available resources” as we like to think.
Duke and UK did. Duke looks to be doing pretty well. Remains to be seen with UK. Although the SEC currently has four top 10 teams with A&M and UK being ranked 14th & 15th to boot. Pope is in a damn tough conference for his first year at UK. And this is Scheyer’s first head coaching job ever.
Football runs college sports now. The only programs that would dump that much money into a basketball coach either don’t play football or they could care less about it.
You can get a quality head coach in basketball for $5-6 million a year. Hell, all of the good basketball teams (with exception of Duke) right now are big time football schools. Just make the right hire. You don’t have to beg Brad Stevens to come here. The guy has been out of coaching for a decade and probably doesn’t want to do it again.
I don’t want anybody that doesn’t have their heart into it. We just went through that: a guy that supposedly loved the school but had zero concept of the work involved at this level. You have to live it and breath it.
And Scheyer is the only true success so far. Pope looks like he could be but Conin isn’t the answer and Davis will probably be fired next year. IU has been in the basement for 2 decades now. Time to try something different.
I’m still holding out that they are keeping things quiet on the Chris Beard hire. 😀
If this hire's a disaster we might want to seriously consider it. After all that's where the money is.
Your idiocy has no bounds.
You realize you didn’t even like the Cignetti hire right? And I … have no doubt you’re serious because you have zero vision. Zero critical thinking. IU basketball is a sleeping giant.
IU football could go 8-4 for a million years and we’d be fine with that. IU basketball still wants national championships.
Do you understand the difference?
This is almost exclusively what blue blood programs have done. It’s what most major programs do because coaches are far less likely to leave if they have things humming along at a major program. Outside of UCLA getting Cronin and USC getting Musselman, I can’t recall a coach leaving a big program unless they were running from a circumstance at their previous school.
Neither are elite. Beard lacks offensively. Wade lacks defensively. Severely. The only way either could become elite is to hire someone to cover the weak side. Wade is younger and probably more apt to do that. Currently Wade has Tom Crean like numbers, certainly not proven.
Man I hope so - but doubt it. That would be the exact opposite of IU. Who knows , maybe they’re pulling a Constanza.
Blue blood;
UK hired Pope
Duke hired Scheyer - never a HC
UNC hired David-never a HC
UConn hired Hurley
The peegs board are all giddy because they think Ole Miss and Chris Beard will be paired against McCollom and Drake in Rd 1. They're sure Drake will get thumped and they are saying that's okay because BM would be available sooner. Insanity...
Not to dismiss last year's accomplishments but I think our B1G schedule is going to be a bit more challenging. Well see what he can do this year.
Who is the young guy that the Hoosiers got from Army?
IU is not a blue blood anymore. They haven't been relevant in a quarter century.
That was a pre blue blood hire - we are neck deep in a 2 decade funk. Time to bypass the “building “ period.
IU's only deficiency is Assembly Hall. It's old, outdated, and a horrible venue to view a game. They need a new arena with aspects of Gainbridge and the New Castle Fieldhouse. Premium seats and true suites, yet students still close to the floor.
Potential HS recruits don’t judge playing in Assembly Hall with the quality of viewing for its fans. IU’s Assembly Hall is the least of our post-Knight basketball problems.
No, but big money follows those amenities and desire it. Big money involvement leads to more revenue and more NIL. With no relevant success in any of today's kids lives, when they see AH, they aren't impressed. They all aspire to the NBA and this doesn't look anything like it. If IU was winning like they did in the 70s, it would feel storied and possibly more acceptable.
Woodson knows a lot more about what it takes than you do. I don't see "Big Ten basketball champion" next to your name.
People on this board don't take accountability for what they say. Did you score 2,000 points for IU in college?
Assembly is about number 25 on things that need changed with IU basketball
And IU can be an improved team as well. No one is expecting 11-1 every season anyways.
That's Woodson the player. He was talking about Woodson the 60+ year old coach.
Here we go again.
The resident ND football guru.
IU football can sustain but they have to support it. So far, they appear to be taking things seriously. That’s good for us.
I realize it puts a damper on the enthusiasm of the reversible jacket brigade but ND has been chasing the elusive championship since 1988.
I’m also not getting paid $4 million dollars a year. If I did, I’d probably damn near live in the office and I’d be calling McNeeley every day of his recruitment to tell him how much he means to us.
You need to separate the coach from the player. Woody could play. He cannot coach and certainly was very lax in the recruiting portion of the job.
UNC won’t hire an alum who has never been a college HC beca… wait, what?! They hired who?
Duke won’t hire an alum who has never been a college HC beca… wait, what?! They hired who?
UK won’t hire an alum who has never won an NCAAT game beca… wait, what?! They hired who?
12 Months ago, most of You thought Cignetti was some type of Italian Sports Car. If You get a Coach Who doesn't accept mediocrity, corrects mistakes, teaches fundamentals, Instills confidence in His Players, and has Players Who buy into His System, the name and experience makes no difference.
I'd be tickled pink with 8 wins next season and playing for a 9th in the bowl game.
