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Biden resignation in 3, 2, 1

I hope Biden resigns, if for the simple fact that all of the "MAGA 45-47" hats will also be supporting Kamala Harris.

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No link, not yet public. But it’s happening.
Whether this happens or not (and I’m not expecting it), it does seem a little peculiar that he hasn’t made an appearance since announcing he’s dropping out of the race.

Is it just to give more spotlight to Harris now that he’s a lame duck?
 
The rumors from the right wing losers on Twitter are that he's resigning, or that he's in the final stages of an undisclosed terminal disease, or that, get this, he's actually fine, and didn't even drop out of the race, because his signature doesn't match, so the party has implemented a sort of semi-coup to prop up Harris.

"I don't have a link, but trust me it's happening" is just a different way of saying "Everything I just wrote is complete horseshit."
 
The rumors from the right wing losers on Twitter are that he's resigning, or that he's in the final stages of an undisclosed terminal disease, or that, get this, he's actually fine, and didn't even drop out of the race, because his signature doesn't match, so the party has implemented a sort of semi-coup to prop up Harris.

"I don't have a link, but trust me it's happening" is just a different way of saying "Everything I just wrote is complete horseshit."
They throw hail Marys and act like Joe Montana when one actually lands. Nevermind the other 10 thousand conspiracy theories that never land.
 
If the prism this is being looked through is genuine concern for how the country is being led...I'm all for him being pushed to resign office, if he isn't able to sit in meetings, think critically, give direction based off those things, etc...

But quite obviously, far right wingers don't care about any of that...they're in meltdown mode of their own because they know this was one of the few things that could have happened, at this point to cause Trump to lose in November.

So they're going to "yell"...a lot... literally and figuratively.
 
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If the prism this is being looked through is genuine concern for how the country is being led...I'm all for him being pushed to resign office, if he isn't able to sit in meetings, think critically, give direction based off those things, etc...

But quite obviously, far right wingers don't care about any of that...they're in meltdown mode of their own because they know this was one of the few things that could have happened, at this point to cause Trump to lose in November.

So they're going to "yell"...a lot... literally and figuratively.
Let's not overstate things. Biden dropping out is certainly a negative for Trump, but it's not like Harris running in his place is some giant obstacle. I'm sure the GOP still feels pretty good about their chances.
 
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Let's not overstate things. Biden dropping out is certainly a negative for Trump, but it's not like Harris running in his place is some giant obstacle. I'm sure the GOP still feels pretty good about their chances.
I view MAGA types like spoiled little 3 year olds...at times. When things don't go their way, when their interests aren't served, when their "mommy" candidate leaves the room or is questioned...they melt down.

With Biden in the race, they were going to get what they want.

Now that he's out of the race, there's uncertainty.

Little whiny 3 year olds that don't KNOW if they're going to get to get their juice boxes, they throw a fit.

Sadly...I think far left types are as bad or worse in this regard. But this strikes me as what's happening right about now.
 
I view MAGA types like spoiled little 3 year olds...at times. When things don't go their way, when their interests aren't served, when their "mommy" candidate leaves the room or is questioned...they melt down.

With Biden in the race, they were going to get what they want.

Now that he's out of the race, there's uncertainty.

Little whiny 3 year olds that don't KNOW if they're going to get to get their juice boxes, they throw a fit.

Sadly...I think far left types are as bad or worse in this regard. But this strikes me as what's happening right about now.
I get you. They went from 100% sure they would win to 99% sure they would win, so now they want to spread shit all over the walls and set fire to the stereo to let everyone know how upset they are. Is that about it?
 
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My wife and I were having this discussion yesterday. The question was, is it better or worse for Harris if Joe resigns and she takes over (ie. do her chances of getting elected improve)? The whole "Well, if Biden isn't fit to run, then he should step down now" argument was thrown out by a few Republicans yesterday, and I'm not sure that would be a good idea (at least from there standpoint).

Let's face it, there is a small, but not insignificant portion of this country that will not vote for Harris in November because she is a woman. That demographic has been shrinking steadily over the last hundred years, but they do still exist.

If Joe officially resigns, Harris officially becomes the first woman president of this country. Sure, it's only for 4 months, but the "stigma" would be gone. There are people out there who wont vote for a woman and say to themselves "I'm sure it will happen eventually, but I'm not going to vote for her to be the first." But her getting the job officially changes that. There is a certain weight that gets associated with the incumbency. That's not necessarily something that Republicans should be giving to Harris, even if it is short term.

The obvious disadvantage is, if something goes horribly wrong in the next four months, Harris is pretty much toast. As long as Joe is in office, Harris can quietly distance herself from any policy decisions that "Joe" makes.
 
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I get you. They went from 100% sure they would win to 99% sure they would win, so now they want to spread shit all over the walls and set fire to the stereo to let everyone know how upset they are. Is that about it?
I'm not sure it hasn't dropped a little further than that, and that's what's driving some of this, along with a general overall uncertainty on how to deal with a Harris challenge. As tone deaf as I think "they" are, they obviously are a very involved and engaged bunch. And I suspect that while Harris is actually a pretty bad overall candidate, she is a woman and a minority, might be short circuiting them a little bit.
 
Let's face it, there is a small, but not insignificant portion of this country that will not vote for Harris in November because she is a woman.
There is a larger portion of this country that will vote for Harris explicitly because she is a woman. Because there is a too-large portion of this country that only looks at immutable characteristics as defining merit.
 
There is a larger portion of this country that will vote for Harris explicitly because she is a woman. Because there is a too-large portion of this country that only looks at immutable characteristics as defining merit.
FWIW, I just saw some recent polling data that had Biden doing better vs. Trump with women than Harris does…which I found curious.

But I wouldn’t pay much attention to polling for at least another week or two. Maybe longer.
 
Yeah, but he's also in medical isolation. Five bucks says they hold a teleconference instead.
That’s what I would expect, too - in the event that the reason here is medical (which it could well be).

But I’d think the WH would be giving clear communication. The reporting on it makes it sound like the WH has gone radio silent.
 
My wife and I were having this discussion yesterday. The question was, is it better or worse for Harris if Joe resigns and she takes over (ie. do her chances of getting elected improve)? The whole "Well, if Biden isn't fit to run, then he should step down now" argument was thrown out by a few Republicans yesterday, and I'm not sure that would be a good idea (at least from there standpoint).

Let's face it, there is a small, but not insignificant portion of this country that will not vote for Harris in November because she is a woman. That demographic has been shrinking steadily over the last hundred years, but they do still exist.

If Joe officially resigns, Harris officially becomes the first woman president of this country. Sure, it's only for 4 months, but the "stigma" would be gone. There are people out there who wont vote for a woman and say to themselves "I'm sure it will happen eventually, but I'm not going to vote for her to be the first." But her getting the job officially changes that. There is a certain weight that gets associated with the incumbency. That's not necessarily something that Republicans should be giving to Harris, even if it is short term.

The obvious disadvantage is, if something goes horribly wrong in the next four months, Harris is pretty much toast. As long as Joe is in office, Harris can quietly distance herself from any policy decisions that "Joe" makes.
I basically see this specific topic as this...

Do the Democrats, Harris, whatever...have an actual handle on what's important to voters, what the right things are that should be done, etc... Or are they just reacting to really, really bad polls, Biden obviously being in bad shape, etc...???

If its the former, and they do know those things, and they feel confident Harris can, and would, lead from a more centrist place, and could use the next 3 months to do so, very publicly...then I would say forcing Biden to resign, making him float away in to anonymity, and giving Harris the chance to very publicly show how she'll lead the country, would be a very impactful thing for the next few months. It would be very demanding, and taxing, as she'd also have to be campaigning, and dealing with the inevitable onslaught from Trump. But in the end, it might give her the best chance at actually winning.

Unfortunately, I think its the latter. And if that's the case, they'd either make her case worse by further proving herself to be a far left wing nut...or they wouldn't believe or be wise enough to see the opportunity to prove she can be what non MAGA voters are looking for.

So...if I were them, I'd keep Biden propped up as long as possible. Let Harris campaign and talk shit with Trump, and hope that he alienates more people between now and November than Harris will.
 
Well, this guy works for Axios. So it’s not just the Peanut Gallery saying this.

I get it. Just seems like people have a hair trigger on hitting "publish" at the moment. No one is taking a beat to check on how true something might be or even why it might be that way.

Again, they didn't turn his plane around. I'm guessing Biden can't meet F2F, and they will have a virtual meeting.

If it's reported that he's meeting with Harris instead, then we have something.
 
FWIW, I just saw some recent polling data that had Biden doing better vs. Trump with women than Harris does…which I found curious.

But I wouldn’t pay much attention to polling for at least another week or two. Maybe longer.
Recent meaning post-debate? Or pre-debate?


This says Harris would be favored with women, especially black women, which is the point I’m making above. Too many people vote on immutable characteristic lines. It’s stupid.
 
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Recent meaning post-debate? Or pre-debate?


This says Harris would be favored with women, especially black women, which is the point I’m making above. Too many people vote on immutable characteristic lines. It’s stupid.
It’s been inimical to black interests in urban blue settings for decades. White flight blacks vote for the same Al sharpton/cori bush propaganda. Rinse repeat
 
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