At this stage, given what you’ve seen from this team

[Sobchak_Security]

What are the group thoughts on this Indiana team making the NCAA tournament?? Gotta say, given our OOC schedule, we have a limited amount of opportunities for quality wins. We’ve let 2 slip thru our hands already. At this point making the tournament would be a pleasant surprise IMO.

Thoughts?

 

[bailey777]

What are the group thoughts on this Indiana team making the NCAA tournament?? Gotta say, given our OOC schedule, we have a limited amount of opportunities for quality wins. We’ve let 2 slip thru our hands already. At this point making the tournament would be a pleasant surprise IMO.

Thoughts?

50/50% maybe or even less as of today. I see a team currently that will not likely win over 10 games in the big ten and that likely will not get us in. I guess with a few breaks maybe 12-8 abosolute best after looking at the schedule. We have let two golden opportunities slip through our hands so far and the Norte Dame game is another one we could lose which would really hurt our chances. We have an early stretch where we play 5 of 7 at home in the big and we probably need win at least 4 of those 5 at home. I do not see us beating Purdue even at home.

 

[birdforbogey]

All I know is I am glad I am not the one putting $1000 on IU in the tournament. But, I guess that’s why I am not a gambler.

Seriously, though the so called experts had IU in the 7 to 9 range in the BIG and in the tournament. Year after year the experts come out with their predictions and the IU fans disagree thinking they will finish better than predicted. Once again, early indications show the experts are probably correct where as those wearing the cream & crimson glasses will try again the next off-season to over exaggerate the expectations.

 

[bawlmer]

What are the group thoughts on this Indiana team making the NCAA tournament?? Gotta say, given our OOC schedule, we have a limited amount of opportunities for quality wins. We’ve let 2 slip thru our hands already. At this point making the tournament would be a pleasant surprise IMO.

Thoughts?

Same as they were yesterday. Last night could have helped, but it won't hurt us. We have 2 months worth of chances for quality wins ahead of us.

 

[Hatchets7times]

At this moment..
No..
Let's see in mid January ..

 

[Coach Geez]

What are the group thoughts on this Indiana team making the NCAA tournament?? Gotta say, given our OOC schedule, we have a limited amount of opportunities for quality wins. We’ve let 2 slip thru our hands already. At this point making the tournament would be a pleasant surprise IMO.

Thoughts?

Probably a little more than 50%. B10 top to bottom isn't that strong overall and IU appears to have a pretty favorable schedule. Will likely impact seeding quite a bit as I see a path to 22-23 wins yet still receive a 9 or 10 due to lack of wins. Avoid any real bad losses and IU should be on the right side of the bubble come Selection Sunday.

Through the first 9 games it's clear that IU is its own worst enemy. IU's played two horrid halves that cost them road wins in games in which they've also played their best two halves. IU HAS to learn how to play a full 40 minutes down the stretch. Do that, along with taking care of the basketball, team could be a tough out in the B10. Much easier said than done however.

 

[jacksback]

We'll make the tourney. This team is definitely more talented than the last few years. People need to remember that we have a number of new players who are still getting used to playing with one another. People are overreacting to last nights game which is to be expected but it's only Dec 9. Kopp, Stewart and X are definite upgrades. TJD is TJD except against the goons of Wisc. Race is improved. Tamar has shown real flashes and will likely get better as the season goes on. For the first time in many years, I expect this team to get stronger as the season progresses barring major injuries. As for the seed........who knows but I'm guessing 8.

 

[rocketo]

What are the group thoughts on this Indiana team making the NCAA tournament?? Gotta say, given our OOC schedule, we have a limited amount of opportunities for quality wins. We’ve let 2 slip thru our hands already. At this point making the tournament would be a pleasant surprise IMO.

Thoughts?

I’d say this team is still developing. I posted in another thread some weeks ago that we will see some head scratchers. This was one of them. To build such a lead and then piss it away was beyond frustrating. Plus I just ****ing HATE Wisconsin. Not as much as Purdue, but I hate them. Real missed opportunity, especially considering it was on the road. I think we continue to improve at a good rate and get into the tourney. We are certainly good enough, but we need better guard play than we saw in the second half of this last game. And Woodson needs to make them ride the pine if they start that shit again.

 

[Chicago-bound Hoosier]

Same as they were yesterday. Last night could have helped, but it won't hurt us. We have 2 months worth of chances for quality wins ahead of us.

last night did hurt. That's a shiny star on our tourney resume that we let slip away. I sense it will be sorely needed in March and now it's gone. That's how you become a bubble team. RIght now I think it's safe to say that we are just that. I was hoping and expecting a little more.

Still hopeful. Trying to understand the entire mood of the team in the second half. You knew Wisky would get motivated at halftime and come out playing better. But how we reacted is very troubling. Played like zombie robots (except XJ who had the opposite problem). We have an AA who was a non-factor when we needed it most, and 3 point shooters who disappeared...all at the same time. And then free throw problem re-emerged. And....we started getting our asses kicked on Wisky's offensive boards. Perfect storm of failure. Right after our best half in forever. Never seen an IU team go belly up so quickly to that extreme.

 

[HoosierAlum07]

Just like the last few years, they are a fringe bubble team! The only way they will be safe to make the tourny is to win atleast 2-3 games in the B10 tourny! They have a high ceiling and enough talent to make the tourny and go pretty far, but the IQ of this team has shown even with all the talent, they still have a chance of missing the NIT!

 

[ButHerEmails]

50/50% maybe or even less as of today. I see a team currently that will not likely win over 10 games in the big ten and that likely will not get us in. I guess with a few breaks maybe 12-8 abosolute best after looking at the schedule. We have let two golden opportunities slip through our hands so far and the Norte Dame game is another one we could lose which would really hurt our chances. We have an early stretch where we play 5 of 7 at home in the big and we probably need win at least 4 of those 5 at home. I do not see us beating Purdue even at home.

We out rebounded WI, shot a higher % overall and from 3, but they hit the same number of 3s as we did. We had two more assists.

The game was lost, yet again, on TOs and FTs. We only turned it over 9 times, but they only had 4 (a ridiculously low TO number). They were 15-18 FTs to our 6-13.
Just like the Syracuse game, one or two fewer TOs and one or two more FTs, it’s a different story.

I’ve seen this team overcome a ~20 point deficit on the road and lose a ~20 lead on the road. What I haven’t seen is this team get blown out and both losses could have easily been wins save for a few boneheaded plays.

Can we wait until all games have been played before we make a judgment? There is a huge learning curve here going both ways. This particular group of players have never played in games together, they’ve never played games for this coaching staff, and this coaching staff has never coached any of these players in a game before this season. They’re all learning on the fly. Yes, we’ve seen some horribly frustrating plays and been disappointed with the outcome of two games. We’ve also seen this team is capable of when playing focused and under control.

 

[IUNorth]

Right now, after yesterdays game, no.

Optimism that our team and coaches can move the trajectory more upwards and end up getting in...yeah, I think its possible. I think Parker is going to be a solid shooter all year long. I think Miller will be streaky, but will be overall an effective shooter/scorer for us. I think TJD and Race will anchor the post well. And I think our ball handlers can become more effective as the year wears on.

We can't play like we did last night though and make the tournament. 18 good minutes, and 22 bad, won't get it done. And we've had too many games thus far with half of the game performances. If that changes, we'll get in. If it doesn't we won't. Not talented enough in the backcourt to beat good B10 teams with that much poor play.

 

[bawlmer]

last night did hurt. That's a shiny star on our tourney resume that we let slip away. I sense it will be sorely needed in March and now it's gone. That's how you become a bubble team. RIght now I think it's safe to say that we are just that. I was hoping and expecting a little more.

Still hopeful. Trying to understand the entire mood of the team in the second half. You knew Wisky would get motivated at halftime and come out playing better. But how we reacted is very troubling. Played like zombie robots (except XJ who had the opposite problem). We have an AA who was a non-factor when we needed it most, and 3 point shooters who disappeared...all at the same time. And then free throw problem re-emerged. And....we started getting our asses kicked on Wisky's offensive boards. Perfect storm of failure. Right after our best half in forever. Never seen an IU team go belly up so quickly to that extreme.

It would have helped us immensely. But my point was losing at Wisconsin by itself is unlikely to keep us out of the tournament. The key is how we respond. Will this loss weigh on us and accumulate like last year? Or will we learn the lessons that will get us over the hump next time?

 

[Harry Hondo]

What are the group thoughts on this Indiana team making the NCAA tournament?? Gotta say, given our OOC schedule, we have a limited amount of opportunities for quality wins. We’ve let 2 slip thru our hands already. At this point making the tournament would be a pleasant surprise IMO.

Thoughts?

It’s December 9th, this team and coaching staff has been together just 6 months. We play in the B1G where there are plenty of opportunities to beat some top 20 teams, so it’s still too early to worry about this. If by February 9th we’re still pissing away leads or getting behind by 17, then we have a big problem, but that’s 2 months away!

 

[The Vid]

Hard to say they will make the tournament considering how bad the guard play was last night. I think back to Verdel Jones freshman year, Eric Suhr, etc.

Phinesee is literally terrified to play when it matters.

X laid one of the worst performances all things considered in recent memory.

 

[Coach Geez]

Hard to say they will make the tournament considering how bad the guard play was last night. I think back to Verdel Jones freshman year, Eric Suhr, etc.

Phinesee is literally terrified to play when it matters.

X laid one of the worst performances all things considered in recent memory.

He had a very bad 8 minute stretch to end the game that's for sure.

 

[The Vid]

He had a very bad 8 minute stretch to end the game that's for sure.

He doesn’t know how to play when it matters. Why? Because he came from a losing program where no games mattered. Then he quit the team before the season was over.

Two losses, two disappearing acts from the PG. I hope it’s not a trend but I kind of know better.

Woody is gonna get tested big time on this one. Press conference answer on getting the ball to Trayce. “I was getting downhill and that’s my game.”

This one seems way too easy to call.

WANTED: GUARDS

 

[Chicago-bound Hoosier]

It would have helped us immensely. But my point was losing at Wisconsin by itself is unlikely to keep us out of the tournament. The key is how we respond. Will this loss weigh on us and accumulate like last year? Or will we learn the lessons that will get us over the hump next time?

We get to feast on cupcakes for the next 3 weeks (including Notre Dame who sucks this year), then January brings us 4 road B1G games and home games that include OSU, Purdue and Mich. So I don't think we'll really learn much more until after New Years.

 

[bailey777]

We out rebounded WI, shot a higher % overall and from 3, but they hit the same number of 3s as we did. We had two more assists.

The game was lost, yet again, on TOs and FTs. We only turned it over 9 times, but they only had 4 (a ridiculously low TO number). They were 15-18 FTs to our 6-13.
Just like the Syracuse game, one or two fewer TOs and one or two more FTs, it’s a different story.

I’ve seen this team overcome a ~20 point deficit on the road and lose a ~20 lead on the road. What I haven’t seen is this team get blown out and both losses could have easily been wins save for a few boneheaded plays.

Can we wait until all games have been played before we make a judgment? There is a huge learning curve here going both ways. This particular group of players have never played in games together, they’ve never played games for this coaching staff, and this coaching staff has never coached any of these players in a game before this season. They’re all learning on the fly. Yes, we’ve seen some horribly frustrating plays and been disappointed with the outcome of two games. We’ve also seen this team is capable of when playing focused and under control.

We only needed to play ok in the 2nd half to win it was not like WIsconsin was great. They still only hit 4-13 three pointers in the second half problem was we were just awful and shot 42% from the free throw line.

 

[kraft cheese+macaroni]

What are the group thoughts on this Indiana team making the NCAA tournament?? Gotta say, given our OOC schedule, we have a limited amount of opportunities for quality wins. We’ve let 2 slip thru our hands already. At this point making the tournament would be a pleasant surprise IMO.

Thoughts?

We'll be part of that 'first four/next four, in/out' conversation. 12-8 in B1G is the ceiling, IMO.