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American Airlines plane crash

Who the f*** is making this political? That was a statement from the President. Good lord you people.
Well, if he wants to assess blame within the agency you can bet your last dollar (and your kids' last dollar) he won't accept one shred of responsibility.

Remember GW Bush? He accepted responsibility even though majority was on prior admins. Trump will look for a way to blame Dems, Biden, DEI or foreigners.
 
I accidentally plugged my headset into the right-side headset jack one time. When I would key the mike, the tower couldn’t hear anything I said. They could hear some kind of sound indicating that somebody was trying to talk, and I could hear them. But they couldn’t hear me.

So they had to bring me in by color signals from the tower.

Imagine how embarrassed I was when I landed and almost immediately figured out why they couldn’t hear me. Thank God I was at EVV and not some larger airport.

So you're a pilot too? I'll be damned. I don't think I ever have seen you make reference to that.
 
Define mistakes. Sometimes as little as the wrong screw. And tread lightly as I trust you’re not in my league on this topic. My daughter and I have easily watched 95 percent of the Air Disasters episodes.

This will always be the craziest. 1990 British Airways

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you and your daughter need to find a new hobby
 
So you're a pilot too? I'll be damned. I don't think I ever have seen you make reference to that.
I am - but I’ve long been inactive. I started flying when I was young. Before I had a drivers license even.

But I stopped when it ceased being a career goal and instead became a hobby I couldn’t afford.

Hope to get back to doing it someday. It’s a lot of fun.
 
Well, if he wants to assess blame within the agency you can bet your last dollar (and your kids' last dollar) he won't accept one shred of responsibility.

Remember GW Bush? He accepted responsibility even though majority was on prior admins. Trump will look for a way to blame Dems, Biden, DEI or foreigners.
Looks like the guy dbm linked, not necessarily Trump, thinks it was intentional.

Trump seems to be stating this was an avoidable tragedy (obviously).

"Julian'sRum" seems to think Trump is low-key* suggesting shenanigans.

Not sure if dbm is suggesting shenanigans, or just snagged a "leading" X link.

* ibid (14 y/o daughter, 2025)
 
Well, if he wants to assess blame within the agency you can bet your last dollar (and your kids' last dollar) he won't accept one shred of responsibility.

Remember GW Bush? He accepted responsibility even though majority was on prior admins. Trump will look for a way to blame Dems, Biden, DEI or foreigners.
We’ve had a good run here in the states. There’s been the Boeing mess abroad but 09 was the last crash here. Buffalo. And before that I believe they were much more frequent
 
Looks like the guy dbm linked, not necessarily Trump, thinks it was intentional.

Trump seems to be stating this was an avoidable tragedy (obviously).

"Julian'sRum" seems to think Trump is low-key* suggesting shenanigans.

Not sure if dbm is suggesting shenanigans, or just snagged a "leading" X link.

* ibid (14 y/o daughter, 2025)
Likely just gross negligence along with DEI policies based on what we know so far. There will be a thorough investigation but I don’t see anything nefarious.
 
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OK...sounds like Wichita was the city who hosted the Championships, and several skaters were flying home to DC. It's not some US Skating training site (I don't think).

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US Figure Skating lost their world team in 1961 to a plane crash. For a smaller sport it is quite a sad coincidence to be involved in two plane crashes.
 
If there’s a man on earth who can run a telestrator better than bill Hemmer name him!!!

Big Pete Hegseth coming on momentarily. Said he was at Happy Hour and missed it last night. Emboldened now that he’s confirmed I guess
Hegseth said the helicopter was on a training mission. Seems weird to do that at night by a busy airport but I suppose it’s necessary.
 
Likely just gross negligence along with DEI policies based on what we know so far. There will be a thorough investigation but I don’t see anything nefarious.
Trump doesn't always knock over the first domino but damn if he doesn't tilt the board downhill.

What exactly was the DEI policy that ****ed this DBM? I listened to the ATC comms this morning. Sounded like a bunch of professinals to me but since you've got knowledge here, please...lay it out.
 
Trump doesn't always knock over the first domino but damn if he doesn't tilt the board downhill.

What exactly was the DEI policy that ****ed this DBM? I listened to the ATC comms this morning. Sounded like a bunch of professinals to me but since you've got knowledge here, please...lay it out.
DBM is someone not to be taken seriously. A troll, much like Lucy.
 
Oh geez. Pete in his office with sleeves up. Tats out. Pasty white and a big cup of coffee. Yikes.

Can’t see his pants. Would love to see if he has a rubber ring in his back pocket
 
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Biden and Pete pushed DEI in the hiring of ATCs. This is well known. Did it play a factor here? No idea but you’d be foolish to rule it out.


 
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Fair take? Sometimes, bad things just happen.

That said, JDB's link above seems to show they were flying right at each other.

Fair take, until we know something it is the unquestionably best take, the only valid take. Even IF DBM's DEI derangement syndrome later turns out to be true, there is nothing at all wrong with waiting to see what is found out about this accident. People start sticking their world views into events before anyone has a clue what the real cause is. We need to reject that. Not only is there nothing wrong with waiting on the facts, it IS the absolute correct way of doing it.
 
Biden and Pete pushed DEI in the hiring of ATCs. This is well known. Did it play a factor here? No idea but you’d be foolish to rule it out.


DBM, you've convinced YOURSELF it's DEI. You go into any investigation with a bias you know what you get? A biased investigtaion that only find out what you want to hear.

Come on man, be better than this. At least in this instance, where a tragedy has occurred that will most likely be a fault/accident somewhere in a vigorously iterated set of procedures.
 
Deliberate or incompetence .
Then you’re saying that potentially our military deliberately crashed into the jetliner, because it occurred at 300 ft. and helicopters flying around the airport are restricted to fly at 200 ft. or lower.
Biden and Pete pushed DEI in the hiring of ATCs. This is well known. Did it play a factor here? No idea but you’d be foolish to rule it out.


From my take on the reporting I saw this morning, the crash occurred at 300 ft. and helicopters are restricted to fly at 200 ft. or lower around Reagan National. Are you saying the ATC instructed the helicopter to fly too high?

When the NTSB comes out with their findings and it was not the ATC’s fault (and the ATC is a white heterosexual) are the MAGA’s going to admit they’re just conspiracy partisan hacks and this next four years is going to be a chaotic “blame the previous administration on everything lie-fest?” 😂
 
Biden and Pete pushed DEI in the hiring of ATCs. This is well known. Did it play a factor here? No idea but you’d be foolish to rule it out.


I feel like you have no idea what DEI is.......

Your consistent harping on this smells an awful lot like the "blacks, gays, women ain't smart enough". Whether that is your thought process, only you know.
 
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