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bailey777

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I just looked at btown banners and they are claiming we paid a million for alexis. If this is true and the asking price for a reserve how are all these teams affording top guys. I thought we had one of the best nil's in the country. If we had ten million than michigan must of spent 15 million or more.
 
Maybe we had one of the best NILs but now so many other teams have ramped up too.

Prices are through the roof.

I have been assuming we can hang top third of the spending of power schools, but not better than that. Too many rich schools out there. I figured Michigan could or would have more than us.

When I see people saying here we have built our roster with less because we weren't getting the big names, I don't really believe it. Even the next tier is very big money.

But it's not my money. Go boosters!
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Until NIL money is being legitimately disclosed, every estimate is just a number and no one knows for sure. Agents can ask for/say anything, but there is not evidence of what they actually do.

When the revenue sharing comes in, I would think that the payments made to players--at least at public schools--would be available with a FOIA request and public record. The other payments are a total guess
 
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I just looked at btown banners and they are claiming we paid a million for alexis. If this is true and the asking price for a reserve how are all these teams affording top guys. I thought we had one of the best nil's in the country. If we had ten million than michigan must of spent 15 million or more.
Good for them if they did. Also UK, if they spent close to $20 million, good for them. I have a feeling there will be more than a few upset UK fans on how this turns out next spring.
 
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Good for them if they did. Also UK, if they spent close to $20 million, good for them. I have a feeling there will be more than a few upset UK fans on how this turns out next spring.

Maybe. but I love the UK roster. Leaps and bounds better than last year on paper. If Ortega returns, which is 95%, I see UK as preseason top 5. Not saying you’re wrong, but I wonder on what this opinion is based.
 
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Until NIL money is being legitimately disclosed, every estimate is just a number and no one knows for sure. Agents can ask for/say anything, but there is not evidence of what they actually do.

When the revenue sharing comes in, I would think that the payments made to players--at least at public schools--would be available with a FOIA request and public record. The other payments are a total guess
Very true. Mark Cuban could double our NIL today if he wanted to--as could the billionaire alum from any number of other schools.

The only thing I know for sure is that whatever the number is, Bailey will bitch about it.
 
Maybe. but I love the UK roster. Leaps and bounds better than last year on paper. If Ortega returns, which is 95%, I see UK as preseason top 5. Not saying you’re wrong, but I wonder on what this opinion is based.
I wouldn't say "leaps and bounds"...I suspect you're falling in to the trap many of us IU fans did last year. Spending more money doesn't immediately mean "better". Robinson, Butler, Brea, Williams... were similarly ranked and heralded to a lot of the guys UK is bringing in this year. This year the market is just dictating that similar players cost more.

I also think all the injuries are probably skewing the view of last years players as well. If Krissa, Robinson, Butler, etc... don't have injuries...who knows what they would have done.
 
I wouldn't say "leaps and bounds"...I suspect you're falling in to the trap many of us IU fans did last year. Spending more money doesn't immediately mean "better". Robinson, Butler, Brea, Williams... were similarly ranked and heralded to a lot of the guys UK is bringing in this year. This year the market is just dictating that similar players cost more.

I also think all the injuries are probably skewing the view of last years players as well. If Krissa, Robinson, Butler, etc... don't have injuries...who knows what they would have done.

I think Quaintsnce is the huge difference. UK lacked interior defense last year and On3 says if healthy he is easily number 1 in portal and a sure fire lottery pick. Plus there are two NBA talent freshmen. Will also be a lot deeper. If Quaintance isn’t healthy I’d say this team is still marginally better than last year at a minimum. Also a lot depends on if the unknown European big is as good as they say. That’s a wildcard.
 
I think Quaintsnce is the huge difference. UK lacked interior defense last year and On3 says if healthy he is easily number 1 in portal and a sure fire lottery pick. Plus there are two NBA talent freshmen. Will also be a lot deeper. If Quaintance isn’t healthy I’d say this team is still marginally better than last year at a minimum. Also a lot depends on if the unknown European big is as good as they say. That’s a wildcard.
Shooting isn’t better.
 
Until NIL money is being legitimately disclosed, every estimate is just a number and no one knows for sure. Agents can ask for/say anything, but there is not evidence of what they actually do.

When the revenue sharing comes in, I would think that the payments made to players--at least at public schools--would be available with a FOIA request and public record. The other payments are a total guess
Not sure that will be the case. The University's may be public, but don't think the collectives are. To me it seems like requesting a public U student's W2 from a private employer.
 
I still do not even understand how NIL works you are supposed to be paid for certain endorsments and appearances yet they get some massive lump some payment it seems. So to me that is just buying a player not giving them money for any sort of appearance. If it was the money would be paid later as the event takes place.
 
I still do not even understand how NIL works you are supposed to be paid for certain endorsments and appearances yet they get some massive lump some payment it seems. So to me that is just buying a player not giving them money for any sort of appearance. If it was the money would be paid later as the event takes place.
Everyone is attacking it differently. I can't think of any way that the numbers people mention are actually accurate. Just educated guesses based on what schools and players report.

I'm not sure Rev Share has kicked in yet? When it does, that money will come directly from the school, and will be "pay to play".

NIL collectives money, also is a "pay to play", that's basically using NIL laws as a "front".

And then there are still actual NIL (name, image, and likeness), endorsement type money streams as well.

And there are also other deals and agreements happening like agreements for future employment, agreements for money amounts that extend well beyond playing days, etc...

Tracking rev share accurately, will probably be fairly easy. NIL collective agreements and payouts are a little more difficult, but still manageable to get a decent number. True NIL...that one is where it gets pretty difficult. I'm sure it all has to be documented and accounted for, so the NCAA can make themselves feel useless...I mean useful. Just not sure how that info makes it out to all these people reporting what schools are paying what, total budgets, etc...
 
I just looked at btown banners and they are claiming we paid a million for alexis. If this is true and the asking price for a reserve how are all these teams affording top guys. I thought we had one of the best nil's in the country. If we had ten million than michigan must of spent 15 million or more.
It’s not must “of”.

It’s must have or must’ve. The apostrophe replaces the ha in the latter. 🙂
 
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It’s not must “of”.

It’s must have or must’ve. The apostrophe replaces the ha in the latter. 🙂
Thanks english teacher I appreciate it as I don't have time to spell check when at work. I am glad I have you to set me straight! Never understood people like you as you must have alot of free time on your hands clearly.
 
I still do not even understand how NIL works you are supposed to be paid for certain endorsments and appearances yet they get some massive lump some payment it seems. So to me that is just buying a player not giving them money for any sort of appearance. If it was the money would be paid later as the event takes place.
Be a great topic for TJ to post about: NIL, Collectives and Revenue Share 101! I think I made that suggestion to the guys at Assembly Call at one point too!
 
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Thanks english teacher I appreciate it as I don't have time to spell check when at work. I am glad I have you to set me straight! Never understood people like you as you must have alot of free time on your hands clearly.
I appreciate you taking the time to thank me! (Psst, it’s actually a lot, not alot. No need to thank me.) 🙂
 
Assuming we're using American English, the period belongs inside the quotation marks.

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I assumed you knew, due to my accent, that I was using British English. 😂

I certainly ain’t no English teacher. However, some things bother me more than others.

Wasn’t meant to be hurtful. Looks like the smiley face emoji didn’t serve its intended purpose.
 
Be a great topic for TJ to post about: NIL, Collectives and Revenue Share 101! I think I made that suggestion to the guys at Assembly Call at one point too!
That sounds like a headache ha...good point though and a good idea. A good late May, early June topic when there really won't be much going on and I'll put a reminder on my list of topics to write about and include NIL, Collectives and Rev Share 101 (which is the highest-level course I could likely pass 😄)
 
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Thanks english teacher I appreciate it as I don't have time to spell check when at work. I am glad I have you to set me straight! Never understood people like you as you must have alot of free time on your hands clearly.
They be OCD guys.
 
Thanks english teacher I appreciate it as I don't have time to spell check when at work. I am glad I have you to set me straight! Never understood people like you as you must have alot of free time on your hands clearly.
For some of us, this board (and some frequent posters) makes our eyes bleed. Just do better. Problem solved.
 
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