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Alabama is mad.

I think the general rule is that the top 5 or so players on big money teams will probably eat up most of the difference between them and a team like IU. It’s a disadvantage, but by and large most teams won’t actually capitalize on it

Nebraska is not a top 5 team though (though they think they are).
 
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Yep. We just spent our money better and coached the players better.

Kinda funny to see people complain about us, and I know many don’t. If what was happening at IU happened at say Wake Forest, I would think it’s pretty cool.

Also, while talent is important, most people overly focus on top line talent when the talent floor and shoring up weak links is more important. Elite schools recruit so many good players that the talent floor usually gets raised my mass action. But that doesn’t always happen as evidenced by teams with elite talent falling flat due to weak links.

You can also build a highly competitive team purely through smart roster construction
 
On3 ranking of the portal transfer classes. We're 10th. But by 'adjusted NIL value' looks like we're about 26th out of the first page of 50 teams. On players about 3 stars, about the same.

On3 Classes 2024

I guess Auburn and Alabama must be little sisters of the poor to not be able to do 26th.

Cig didn't pull a Deion and run his guys off the first year either, on purpose, and then take a massive amount his second year (I assume we won't do 42 players...) . For Cig the guys pretty much went looking without being pushed out. Although he was clear some were not asked back.

I agree with Tuberville on some of his points, but wasn't he a big time coach with influence in the NCAA football world a long time when players were only paid under the table? In other words he played a role in creating this mess?
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1. Tubberville coached at ALBURN
and in 2022 NIL spending #9. was Auburn Tigers $580 million and #28. Indiana Hoosiers: $351 million [2022 College top-50-programs-ranked-by-nil https://247sports.com/longformartic...rams-ranked-by-nil-efforts-235181311/#2472523]

He's big mad that other collages can now catchup? Isn't this why Nick O'Bama and Kentucky Cal suddenly chose to retire?

2. This may have done us a favor. Nothing stokes the fire like disrespect.

3. But yes, we are spending more.
Projected NIL Collective Funding by School: Based on Booster support, the following is our estimate of NIL collective funding per school.

Total
Public UniversitiesContributionsSupport
1​
Texas
77,974,073​
135,517,239​
2​
Ohio State
63,582,228​
123,232,149​
3​
LSU
75,929,827​
122,524,769​
4​
Georgia
74,315,945​
111,508,298​
5​
Texas A&M
54,204,110​
104,828,397​
6​
Michigan
44,258,631​
99,524,766​
7​
Alabama
53,113,300​
97,324,316​
8​
Florida
61,364,272​
96,148,974​
9​
Clemson
60,859,475​
92,839,831​
10​
Oklahoma
43,180,134​
90,157,905​
11​
Penn State
39,248,059​
83,926,716​
12​
Indiana
61,660,023​
82,939,020​
13​
Michigan State
54,135,871​
79,314,544​
14​
Virginia
62,646,969​
77,761,952​
15​
Tennessee
35,483,274​
70,593,563​
16​
Auburn
36,372,783​
70,513,179​
17​
Arkansas
22,165,941​
70,239,900​
18​
Kentucky
27,938,279​
68,476,390​
19​
Oregon
40,282,784​
64,640,729​
 
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To the extent that IU “bought” a team, Rourke and Sarratt were moneyball picks that likely weren’t considered by traditionally elite schools unless for a second string role. The rest of IUs pickups likely weren’t considered at all. Hell, even IU fans had reservations about IUs talent being anything more than marginal bowl caliber until several games INTO THE SEASON.
CJ West had some good offers as I recall like maybe Auburn but the rest of our guys were considered middle of the road at best. Many thought that the JMU guys success wouldn't carry over to the big ten, me included. Honestly it's just great to be in these conversations. I personally love that the SEC is bitching about us. I work with a Tenn fan and he was literally blowing me shit about our schedule on a video call today. I just laughed and said we can't help our schedule so we just show up and beat the shit out of who ever they put in front of us!
 
I would love to see a spreadsheet of NIL budget vs current national ranking. Cig is totally playing Moneyball with these kids and making everybody look foolish. Our top WR started his career at St. Francis…probably on a partial scholarship!

To quote Nick Saban “If you pay the wrong guys, you’re SOL!!”
 
I don’t know what all those numbers are — something like total donations to the entire university. Definitely not NIL.



From the author's linked page:

"My initial impression after going through the NIL market data and subsequent calculations was that these estimates were high. But then I looked and saw that the goal of the University of Tennessee collective is $ 25 million and that they believe the goal is “absolutely attainable”. I also saw that the Ohio State football coach recently stated they need $ 13 million in NIL money just to “maintain” their football roster. Using the 66% Power 5 average of NIL money allocated to Football, this translates into just under $ 20 million in NIL dollars to all Ohio State sports – very close to the estimate contained in this table. A little more spot checking revealed credible reports of Auburn raising over $ 13 million and Ole Miss raising over $ 10 million in NIL Collective money – both figures are higher the estimates contained in this table.

* Important – see our disclosure of Methodology as to how these estimates were arrived at.

Statistics compiled & edited by Patrick O’Rourke, CPA Washington, DC



Power 5 SchoolsCollectiveTicketContributionsTotal
Public UniversitiesFunding *SalesSupport
1Texas
$22,272,474​
57,543,166​
77,974,073​
135,517,239​
2Ohio State
$20,253,400​
59,649,921​
63,582,228​
123,232,149​
3LSU
$20,137,141​
46,594,942​
75,929,827​
122,524,769​
4Georgia
$18,326,566​
37,192,353​
74,315,945​
111,508,298​
5Texas A&M
$17,228,714​
50,624,287​
54,204,110​
104,828,397​
6Michigan
$16,357,054​
55,266,135​
44,258,631​
99,524,766​
7Alabama
$15,995,406​
44,211,016​
53,113,300​
97,324,316​
8Florida
$15,802,237​
34,784,702​
61,364,272​
96,148,974​
9Clemson
$15,258,374​
31,980,356​
60,859,475​
92,839,831​
10Oklahoma
$14,817,595​
46,977,771​
43,180,134​
90,157,905​
11Penn State
$13,793,489​
44,678,657​
39,248,059​
83,926,716​
12Indiana
$13,631,160​
21,278,997​
61,660,023​
82,939,020​
13Michigan State
$13,035,471​
25,178,673​
54,135,871​
79,314,544​
14Virginia
$12,780,300​
15,114,983​
62,646,969​
77,761,952​
15Tennessee
$11,602,164​
35,110,289​
35,483,274​
70,593,563​
16Auburn
$11,588,953​
34,140,396​
36,372,783​
70,513,179​
17Arkansas
$11,544,039​
48,073,959​
22,165,941​
70,239,900​
18Kentucky
$11,254,204​
40,538,111​
27,938,279​
68,476,390​
19Oregon
$10,623,807​
24,357,945​
40,282,784​
64,640,729​
20Florida State
$10,034,191​
18,773,797​
42,279,406​
61,053,203​
 
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Well, previous table in the earlier post didn't show NIL collectives numbers in the table, but 'contributions' and 'total support'.

The above NIL values are in line with what has been discussed in this forum a lot. ( I heard we were at 9-10 from here. ) Originally Cig seems to have thought he'd get less because in the summer interviews when asked if Indiana was coming through on NIL, he said "It's good. More than I was promised". Which is cool.
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Those numbers look closer to realistic, but that’s just my opinion.

Keep in mind most of our NIL still goes to bball, through I’ve heard football NIL keeps increasing and could be close to bball levels. Getting concrete NIL figures is impossible, it’s all estimates, so we’ll always be guessing to some extent.
 
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I'm not a fan of the NIL stuff but it is what it is so use it to your advantage, it's like complaining that a billionaire doesn't pay the taxes YOU think he should, well, if you don't like it, change the law. You can't blame someone for using the laws put in place. I think some here have it right, the SEC just doesn't like the competition.
 
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This guy is a total idiot. Indiana hired a new coach and did what he had to do. Recruited players to come to Indiana with a vision of winning and developing players. The same thing all school try to do.

This is complete SEC BS.
Didn't Cignetti say he had 20 something players entering the portal when he showed up? He had no choice but to go to the portal from my understanding.
 
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