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Adam Howard

Rumors say something else.

Key part.... rumors.
Had seen that he had been giving out his IU credentials/field passes to football games to other people (have seen video of this)

If just a one time thing, maybe not a fireable offense, but if a recurrent thing or he had been doing so in exchange for cash, it probably would have escalated to one
 
Had seen that he had been giving out his IU credentials/field passes to football games to other people (have seen video of this)

If just a one time thing, maybe not a fireable offense, but if a recurrent thing or he had been doing so in exchange for cash, it probably would have escalated to one
We'll see when something official comes out if it ever does.
 
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According to DC2345 on HSN:

"Basically Woodson asked Adam to separate Anthony Leal and Trey Galloway in the locker room by moving their lockers and he refused, he said they're sixth year seniors and he didn’t want to do that. Adam did eventually do it though. Woody and Howard didn't talk for three weeks, when Adam pressed him on it Woodson blew up and said that he talks and shares too much with recruits and they got in an argument. Woodson also never got over Adam almost leaving to coach with May before Woodson came up with an official job for him. Woodson felt he wasn’t loyal. "
 
According to DC2345 on HSN:

"Basically Woodson asked Adam to separate Anthony Leal and Trey Galloway in the locker room by moving their lockers and he refused, he said they're sixth year seniors and he didn’t want to do that. Adam did eventually do it though. Woody and Howard didn't talk for three weeks, when Adam pressed him on it Woodson blew up and said that he talks and shares too much with recruits and they got in an argument. Woodson also never got over Adam almost leaving to coach with May before Woodson came up with an official job for him. Woodson felt he wasn’t loyal. "

I know you are just passing on "information" but WTH would Woodson want those two separated?

Woodson seems to be quite fragile if someone questions him.
 
According to DC2345 on HSN:

"Basically Woodson asked Adam to separate Anthony Leal and Trey Galloway in the locker room by moving their lockers and he refused, he said they're sixth year seniors and he didn’t want to do that. Adam did eventually do it though. Woody and Howard didn't talk for three weeks, when Adam pressed him on it Woodson blew up and said that he talks and shares too much with recruits and they got in an argument. Woodson also never got over Adam almost leaving to coach with May before Woodson came up with an official job for him. Woodson felt he wasn’t loyal. "
If this is true then woody is everything people are saying.
 
I’m pretty sure Adam Howard doesn’t matter. Also pretty sure on who Woody is at this point.

Maybe we get lucky and win this year, but it will be luck with woody, not because of him.

I just wish Woody would retire, but know that his 4.2M salary will lead him to hold on until 2027. He has proven all of our initial concerns to be correct. Knowing our luck, he will underachieve this year, but do just enough to retain his position. With our brand and blank-check NIL contributions, a good coach would dominate the B1G.

Given Dolson's rumored coup attempt last March, and the revised contract that Dolson had Woody sign in August of 2023 (potentially replacing the buyout amount with an annual $1M payment), I take some solace in knowing that the athletic department will get this done sooner than later.
 
I just wish Woody would retire, but know that his 4.2M salary will lead him to hold on until 2027. He has proven all of our initial concerns to be correct. Knowing our luck, he will underachieve this year, but do just enough to retain his position. With our brand and blank-check NIL contributions, a good coach would dominate the B1G.

Given Dolson's rumored coup attempt last March, and the revised contract that Dolson had Woody sign in August of 2023 (potentially replacing the buyout amount with an annual $1M payment), I take some solace in knowing that the athletic department will get this done sooner than later.
Football is the focus right now but if I’m a betting man woody is on the clock this year(not surprising). IU as a brand is better than many think. Especially since Dolson and whitten are on the same page.
 
I just wish Woody would retire, but know that his 4.2M salary will lead him to hold on until 2027. He has proven all of our initial concerns to be correct. Knowing our luck, he will underachieve this year, but do just enough to retain his position. With our brand and blank-check NIL contributions, a good coach would dominate the B1G.

Given Dolson's rumored coup attempt last March, and the revised contract that Dolson had Woody sign in August of 2023 (potentially replacing the buyout amount with an annual $1M payment), I take some solace in knowing that the athletic department will get this done sooner than later.
Dolson's never going to have more cred than this year with Cig, especially if he's able to keep him. If he's not sold on Woody, and we're not B10 champs and in the S16, he should have the chops to do it this year, or he really is neutered.
 
Dolson's never going to have more cred than this year with Cig, especially if he's able to keep him. If he's not sold on Woody, and we're not B10 champs and in the S16, he should have the chops to do it this year, or he really is neutered.
For sure. Cig has made Dolson more powerful. Maybe Dolson couldn’t fire woody last year like was rumored. I promise he will get fired this year if he doesn’t shape up.
 
I do find it hilarious on peegs how Fatjohns and the sea of losers are crying over this loss. The one guy on staff that gave Fatjohns info is gone. Lol. I wouldn’t be shocked if woody fired him because he was giving fatty info. Woody for sure is petty like that and hates peegs and The hysterics.
 
I do find it hilarious on peegs how Fatjohns and the sea of losers are crying over this loss. The one guy on staff that gave Fatjohns info is gone. Lol. I wouldn’t be shocked if woody fired him because he was giving fatty info. Woody for sure is petty like that and hates peegs and The hysterics.
It still looks bad. Especially since he was offered another spot in the athletic department. I think it’s not going to hurt the team but the optics aren’t great.
 
I just wish Woody would retire, but know that his 4.2M salary will lead him to hold on until 2027. He has proven all of our initial concerns to be correct. Knowing our luck, he will underachieve this year, but do just enough to retain his position. With our brand and blank-check NIL contributions, a good coach would dominate the B1G.

Given Dolson's rumored coup attempt last March, and the revised contract that Dolson had Woody sign in August of 2023 (potentially replacing the buyout amount with an annual $1M payment), I take some solace in knowing that the athletic department will get this done sooner than later.
The IU HC job has been very lucrative for Mike. He was probably making around $1M/yr as an NBA assistant. He likely wasn't getting another NBA head coaching job since several interviews didn't work out. The IU contract will get him something like $15M+ more vs what he was going to get in the NBA as an assistant.

As for Adam Howard, I don't know what happened, it's not the end of the world, but it's not a good thing.
 
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I agree but optics be damned.

Just win and nothing will matter. The bigger the winning the more will be forgotten!
Yep, I promise no-one says a word if we make a final four about the great Adam Howard debacle. I mean Woodson doesn't recruit HS kids, and the ones in Indiana he wanted all went elsewhere. Id fire the dope behind the slogans too. Seems like a Crean Jr with the best in Indiana play at Indiana. LEO. Clap clap clap. Hate that horseshit.
 
It still looks bad. Especially since he was offered another spot in the athletic department. I think it’s not going to hurt the team but the optics aren’t great.
I promise it won't hurt the team. Like no chance it could hurt them. he was a 23 year old GA that probably texted HS kids way too much. None came here in 25' class, Im sure he was a part of the reason. Or wait is that Sisley kid from IN? I don't care at all about this stuff if you can't tell. Nothing matters with woody till about June in the off-season.
 
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I do find it hilarious on peegs how Fatjohns and the sea of losers are crying over this loss. The one guy on staff that gave Fatjohns info is gone. Lol. I wouldn’t be shocked if woody fired him because he was giving fatty info. Woody for sure is petty like that and hates peegs and The hysterics.
Hasn't IU been closed lipped on a lot of their inner workings in the past?
 
I felt like Howard's relationship with the Morenos was a large part of his position. The idea being to give Walsh more help. The last move before firing a legacy coach is to make staff changes. If this is followed by a bench coach or two it would be a heat indicator. I would say that it's just another Woody moment though.
 
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The IU HC job has been very lucrative for Mike. He was probably making around $1M/yr as an NBA assistant. He likely wasn't getting another NBA head coaching job since several interviews didn't work out. The IU contract will get him something like $15M+ more vs what he was going to get in the NBA as an assistant.

As for Adam Howard, I don't know what happened, it's not the end of the world, but it's not a good thing.
Hopefully him and Fife can meet up at a solid Mid Major job?
 
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Dolson's never going to have more cred than this year with Cig, especially if he's able to keep him. If he's not sold on Woody, and we're not B10 champs and in the S16, he should have the chops to do it this year, or he really is neutered.
The thing about losing players and having to rebuild goes out the window these days with the portal and NIL. Therefore, firing a coach is not as difficult except for any buyouts
 
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The thing about losing players and having to rebuild goes out the window these days with the portal and NIL. Therefore, firing a coach is not as difficult except for any buyouts
disagree. Complete rebuild is difficult for any coach/team. Losing older players and trying to refill every year is a Vegas odds game. No matter how good you are, eventually you will lose big time
 
We'll see when something official comes out if it ever does.
Nothing offical coming out. Howard won’t say anything and Woodson won’t because it will show what he is.

Howard’s revenge might be going to Michigan and recruiting Indiana HS kids to Michigan with May.
 
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