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Both Merriam-Webster and dictionary.com have weighed in and say “could care less” and “couldn’t care less” mean the same thing. Their reasoning is that both phrases are informal, English is often illogical, and people use the two phrases in the same way. “Could care less” has come to mean the same thing as “couldn’t care less.”

Nevertheless, if you want to avoid annoying people, it’s better to stick with “couldn’t care less.” Take it from someone who’s heard a lot of people complain about it.

I am going to keep annoying you.
 
Could someone explain what this thread is all about ?
 
Confirmation bias, statistics, politics, censorship, and responsive government.

Not sure when the video above was recorded, DOD debunked what appears to be the study referenced due to data errors. Now before anyone jumps to alleging a cover-up, I can assure you we are awash in databases that would enable anyone (including me) to test for similar findings.

 

What Should You Do?​

Both Merriam-Webster and dictionary.com have weighed in and say “could care less” and “couldn’t care less” mean the same thing. Their reasoning is that both phrases are informal, English is often illogical, and people use the two phrases in the same way. “Could care less” has come to mean the same thing as “couldn’t care less.”

Nevertheless, if you want to avoid annoying people, it’s better to stick with “couldn’t care less.” Take it from someone who’s heard a lot of people complain about it.

I am going to keep annoying you.
Actually I prefer “I don’t give a shit;”. Much more direct and clear.
 

What Should You Do?​

Both Merriam-Webster and dictionary.com have weighed in and say “could care less” and “couldn’t care less” mean the same thing. Their reasoning is that both phrases are informal, English is often illogical, and people use the two phrases in the same way. “Could care less” has come to mean the same thing as “couldn’t care less.”

Nevertheless, if you want to avoid annoying people, it’s better to stick with “couldn’t care less.” Take it from someone who’s heard a lot of people complain about it.

I am going to keep annoying you.
So, either one is acceptable, even though only one makes logical sense? That sounds mighty woke of you. Participation trophies for everyone!

Oh, and just so we are clear, you couldn't be more annoying.

:D
 
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That’s cool Do you have anything to say about the substance of her interview?
You mean the interview from 6 months ago?

She speaks in soundbytes. That’s usually going to play to a specific audience, with the expected bloviating.

I’ve gotta tell you, that’s pretty boring - and unfortunately all that this particular board has to offer.
 
Having trouble with the video.

How about a recap on what I am missing.
 
So, either one is acceptable, even though only one makes logical sense? That sounds mighty woke of you. Participation trophies for everyone!

Oh, and just so we are clear, you couldn't be more annoying.

:D
What I hear you saying is that, with how annoying stoll is, you actually could care less about it. I guess the big question is have you reached maximum caring about it. I mean, could you care more?
 
Having trouble with the video.

How about a recap on what I am missing.
The DoD manages a database of conditions and deaths. In 2021, almost all conditions appeared to skyrocket. The blame was placed on vaccines. The truth is that 2016-2020 data was underreported making correctly reported 2021 look like a large outlier.
 
The DoD manages a database of conditions and deaths. In 2021, almost all conditions appeared to skyrocket. The blame was placed on vaccines. The truth is that 2016-2020 data was underreported making correctly reported 2021 look like a large outlier.
MtM, so the data which Victory was talking about were military deaths and conditions ? This explains why the age group was 18-49. When hearing about so many in this age being affected, I wondered how any of we oldsters survived the vaccines :).

I finally got the video to work. My take was she was implying that the vaccines caused the uptick along with there being a cover up, but she didn't actually come right out and say it.

MtM, appreciate your explanation.
 
MtM, so the data which Victory was talking about were military deaths and conditions ? This explains why the age group was 18-49. When hearing about so many in this age being affected, I wondered how any of we oldsters survived the vaccines :).

I finally got the video to work. My take was she was implying that the vaccines caused the uptick along with there being a cover up, but she didn't actually come right out and say it.

MtM, appreciate your explanation.
I took it to mean statistics for all, not just military. She made specific reference to the diagnostic coding system which I’m not sure is used by the military. The age group is probably where the anomaly occurred.

Clotting disorders have been associated with the vaccines and I think that is her presumption. If the stats are correct, there should be an investigation, correct?

Another factor might be the 2020 isolation where people were scared out of seeking medical care for any condition.
 
The DoD manages a database of conditions and deaths. In 2021, almost all conditions appeared to skyrocket. The blame was placed on vaccines. The truth is that 2016-2020 data was underreported making correctly reported 2021 look like a large outlier.
Why do you think reporting for the 5 previous years was faulty?
 
The DoD manages a database of conditions and deaths. In 2021, almost all conditions appeared to skyrocket. The blame was placed on vaccines. The truth is that 2016-2020 data was underreported making correctly reported 2021 look like a large outlier.

That's what they want you to think.
 
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I took it to mean statistics for all, not just military. She made specific reference to the diagnostic coding system which I’m not sure is used by the military. The age group is probably where the anomaly occurred.

Clotting disorders have been associated with the vaccines and I think that is her presumption. If the stats are correct, there should be an investigation, correct?

Another factor might be the 2020 isolation where people were scared out of seeking medical care for any condition.
The stats aren't correct, we've established that above in the thread. The J&J vaccine was paused based on fewer than 100 cases of clotting disorders, so it's pretty clear the data are being monitored exceedingly closely. Any anomalies like those suggested in the interview would be picked up by numerous monitoring systems inside and outside the government.
 
The stats aren't correct, we've established that above in the thread. The J&J vaccine was paused based on fewer than 100 cases of clotting disorders, so it's pretty clear the data are being monitored exceedingly closely. Any anomalies like those suggested in the interview would be picked up by numerous monitoring systems inside and outside the government.
The diagnostic codes are objective. I haven’t verified their accuracy, but monitoring J&J vaccine isn’t relevant. You are talking about causation.
 
The diagnostic codes are objective. I haven’t verified their accuracy, but monitoring J&J vaccine isn’t relevant. You are talking about causation.
It's relevant to suggestions that the government isn't interested in any data showing issues with vaccines (eg, your OP).
 

What Should You Do?​

Both Merriam-Webster and dictionary.com have weighed in and say “could care less” and “couldn’t care less” mean the same thing. Their reasoning is that both phrases are informal, English is often illogical, and people use the two phrases in the same way. “Could care less” has come to mean the same thing as “couldn’t care less.”

Nevertheless, if you want to avoid annoying people, it’s better to stick with “couldn’t care less.” Take it from someone who’s heard a lot of people complain about it.

I am going to keep annoying you.
Seriously, I know what people mean when they say either but they are saying the opposite of each other when, in fact, they are both trying to say they couldn't care less.
 
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Why do you think reporting for the 5 previous years was faulty?
Because the DoD says it is, Bowl linked an article above. There are many others. Here is a PDF which explains the problem:


Under root causes of that pdf, a coding error was made. The code was used to copy data to other tables. It came about in a server move. DoD has changed the procedures for verifying code
 
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The DoD manages a database of conditions and deaths. In 2021, almost all conditions appeared to skyrocket. The blame was placed on vaccines. The truth is that 2016-2020 data was underreported making correctly reported 2021 look like a large outlier.
Marv, your review of the article has been fact checked and you’ve been given 5 CNN’s.
You say “almost all conditions”; she specifically states no less than 6 times that it was certain conditions. Then she goes on to specify 3-4 specific conditions only, not almost all. This part of your reporting was from the DOD data. ** (add on edit) she also never lays any blame on the vax, but says we’d be remiss if we didn’t look at this data fir any cause.
She then specifically states that there’s two separate sets of data. The DoD you mention and the another from a Life Insurance company’s report out. The later saying a 40% increase in all causes of death. Totally separate from DoD data.
I’d hate to think that your version of that article was intentional.
 
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The diagnostic codes are objective. I haven’t verified their accuracy, but monitoring J&J vaccine isn’t relevant. You are talking about causation.
His comment about the J&J vaccine was in response to your claim that “Clotting disorders have been associated with the vaccines.”
 
Marv, your review of the article has been fact checked and you’ve been given 5 CNN’s.
You say “almost all conditions”; she specifically states no less than 6 times that it was certain conditions. Then she goes on to specify 3-4 specific conditions only, not almost all. This part of your reporting was from the DOD data. ** (add on edit) she also never lays any blame on the vax, but says we’d be remiss if we didn’t look at this data fir any cause.
She then specifically states that there’s two separate sets of data. The DoD you mention and the another from a Life Insurance company’s report out. The later saying a 40% increase in all causes of death. Totally separate from DoD data.
I’d hate to think that your version of that article was intentional.
Joe, appreciate both you and MtM trying to give us some insight into what Dr. Victor was telling us.

My concern is we will have gone through this Covid experience without agreeing on anything which will prepare us to face a future pandemic. The country will remain vulnerable to biological warfare.
 
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Joe, appreciate both you and MtM trying to give us some insight into what Dr. Victor was telling us.

My concern is we will have gone through this Covid experience without agreeing on anything which will prepare us to face a future pandemic. The country will remain vulnerable to biological warfare.
Well . . .

The DoD has reported to a couple of media inquiries that the base-line data is wrong. Sen Johnson as asked Secretary Austin and also the private contractor which manages the DoD data base to explain the data integrity issues. Neither have responded. So the issue remains open and unresolved at an official level.

The data is military data, not general population data as I first thought.
 
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She then specifically states that there’s two separate sets of data. The DoD you mention and the another from a Life Insurance company’s report out. The later saying a 40% increase in all causes of death. Totally separate from DoD data.

This looks weird to me. What exactly does "40% increase in all causes of death" actually mean? Surely that can't mean a 40% increase in deaths. If that came from a life insurance company, they'd be bankrupt.
 
This looks weird to me. What exactly does "40% increase in all causes of death" actually mean? Surely that can't mean a 40% increase in deaths. If that came from a life insurance company, they'd be bankrupt.
Damn fine question. I dunno?
but I wasn’t questioning or even commenting on the data. I was commenting on total misrepresentation of what the lady said with video evidence in this very thread. I guess I’m the only one who cares.
 
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Damn fine question. I dunno?
but I wasn’t questioning or even commenting on the data. I was commenting on total misrepresentation of what the lady said with video evidence in this very thread. I guess I’m the only one who cares.

If she's using "40% increase in all causes of death" as part of her data, then she's got some explainin' to do.
 
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