A Golden Dome: can the US afford it and is it even needed?

[crazed_hoosier2]

Wouldn’t people have been talking about those seeds?

And I have to disagree with you about 2008. Peter Wallison predicted it…in 1999. The problem wasn’t that nobody foresaw it. The problem is that nobody who mattered was listening to people who foresaw it.

Read this story.

I just noticed that archive was corrupted.

Here’s one that features Wallison’s prescient prediction about lower mortgage lending standards.

 

[76-1]

It depends on what you’re reading. I’ve not read anywhere that the CIA knew the Wuhan lab also contained a bioweapons lab. Ii just searched and can’t find it. Where did you read that?

That was about 4 years ago... I'll see if I can find it and get back to you... Sickening thing is I had kept most of those articles in my phone files for just this instance and dumped all of them about a month and a half ago in anticipation of buying a new phone starting as relatively a clean sheet... Which reminds me I need to find my password for this site or I'll end up back here as a newbie under a different poster name...

 

[T.M.P.]

It depends on what you’re reading. I’ve not read anywhere that the CIA knew the Wuhan lab also contained a bioweapons lab. I just searched and can’t find it. Where did you read that?

Twitter and Face Book .. probably in the form of a meme.

 

[outside shooter]

I've reached my conclusion and presented it...

Much of what you presented is certainly at least plausible and I'm asking for no explanation, save for only one thing. I focused on the one and only aspect that seems as likely to be true as the Earth being flat. A highly infectious disease will only spread from where an infected person (case #1) is, during the entire time of that person being infectious.

If you are infectious and go to a gas station, a restaurant, a shopping mall, a movie theater, a pickleball court, an arena, and then hang out with your family and neighbors, I expect infections to spring up in all of those places right after your visit. Not just in (say) the area of the pickleball court.

Care to make it make sense?

 

[76-1]

Much of what you presented is certainly at least plausible and I'm asking for no explanation, save for only one thing. I focused on the one and only aspect that seems as likely to be true as the Earth being flat. A highly infectious disease will only spread from where an infected person (case #1) is, during the entire time of that person being infectious.

If you are infectious and go to a gas station, a restaurant, a shopping mall, a movie theater, a pickleball court, an arena, and then hang out with your family and neighbors, I expect infections to spring up in all of those places right after your visit. Not just in (say) the area of the pickleball court.

Care to make it make sense?

No because this debate can go on ad-infinitum... Which is why I hesitated posting about it...

 

[76-1]

It depends on what you’re reading. I’ve not read anywhere that the CIA knew the Wuhan lab also contained a bioweapons lab. I just searched and can’t find it. Where did you read that?

Here's the first thing I tripped over with just a quick search... :

State Department cables: Wuhan Institute of Virology conducted classified research

Three State Department cables obtained by U.S. Right to Know show new information about classified research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

usrtk.org

That was not my original source, I do know that... I don't know anything about that outfit...

Here's an Oversight Committee synopsis:

COVID Origins Hearing Wrap Up: Facts, Science, Evidence Point to a Wuhan Lab Leak - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

oversight.house.gov

Here's a Washington Examiner article linking the PLA to the lab:

Chinese military had deep ties to Wuhan lab suspected of COVID-19 outbreak, cables show - Washington Examiner

Newly-unearthed State Department cables show the United States government’s early concerns about the deep ties and research collaboration between a Wuhan lab and the Chinese military amid the search for COVID-19’s origins. The heavily-redacted cables, which warned about the connections between...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Here's the first thing I tripped over with just a quick search... :

State Department cables: Wuhan Institute of Virology conducted classified research

Three State Department cables obtained by U.S. Right to Know show new information about classified research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

usrtk.org

That was not my original source, I do know that... I don't know anything about that outfit...

Here's an Oversight Committee synopsis:

COVID Origins Hearing Wrap Up: Facts, Science, Evidence Point to a Wuhan Lab Leak - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

oversight.house.gov

Thanks. That the PRC would conduct that kind of research doesn’t surprise me. I just hadn’t read it and I’ve never heard of U.S. Right to Know.

It’s the rest of the speculation that seems implausible to me.

 

[outside shooter]

No because this debate can go on ad-infinitum...

I understand.

But to me it's like prosecuting a murder case, making tons of valid points about the accused murderer...
-he hated the victim
-he had threatened the victim
-he was a very bad guy
-he knew how to kill

Then someone points out that the accused murderer and the victim were definitely not in the same city when the murder happened, but you say "so what?"

 

[Eppy99]

'Golden Dome' for US: Trump's mega defence plan explained - The Times of India

US News: President Trump has proposed a 'golden dome' missile defense shield, inspired by Israel's Iron Dome, to protect the US from advanced aerial threats. H

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Seems like a boondoggle of SDI-like proportions. The USA wasted hundreds of billions (when those numbers meant something) on this type of craziness in the 1980s. Are we really going to waste trillions on another attempt now?

Maybe if we’d stop becoming such assholes to the world we wouldn’t need a goddamn dome. You know the ole, “keep your friends close and your enemies closer”. Nope instead we’re just pissing on everyone’s face.

 

[BradStevens]

Wouldn’t people have been talking about those seeds?

And I have to disagree with you about 2008. Peter Wallison predicted it…in 1999. The problem wasn’t that nobody foresaw it. The problem is that nobody who mattered was listening to people who foresaw it.

Read this story.

Cmon crazed. There are a lot of people out there predicting a lot of things. The vast majority didn’t foresee the fall of the Soviets but obviously some did, just as with my analogy.

Predictions of the collapse of the Soviet Union - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[76-1]

Thanks. That the PRC would conduct that kind of research doesn’t surprise me. I just hadn’t read it and I’ve never heard of U.S. Right to Know.

It’s the rest of the speculation that seems implausible to me.

Well, it's all out there if you want verification... I'm too busy (and mainly too lazy) to re-look it up...

I've found on here that most will believe what they want to believe and disregard any info that doesn't match how they "feel" about it...

Which is why I won't waste time re-debating the topic...

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Well, it's all out there if you want verification... I'm too busy (and mainly too lazy) to re-look it up...

I've found on here that most will believe what they want to believe and disregard any info that doesn't match how they "feel" about it...

Which is why I won't waste time re-debating the topic...

Completely agree with the second paragraph.