It was his second year when we went to the final four. First year we were bounced in a first round upset...i think by Kent State...iirc.
A decline since Mike Davis
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It was his second year when we went to the final four. First year we were bounced in a first round upset...i think by Kent State...iirc.
We need to start throwing some of that Kentucky money around...you get what you pay for
Ya, we should have paid double for a guy at the top of our list...who we then made a top ten paid coach. Lol.
Good thinking...
No you can’t. Lol. Quit posting this dumb shit.
If we paid $6 million for Archie we’d be living large.
Bullshit.
So you personally knew Kelvin Sampson? Tom Crean? Don’t even try to say you personally know Archie; we all (including you) know how big a lie that would be.
And even if you somehow DID know Mike, to compare his character to people you personally DON’T know is high level bullshit - even for you.
He always seems to claim to know all the coaches and recruits. Even when they have nothing to do with IU. He's sooo well connected. Aren't you impressed?
He always seems to claim to know all the coaches and recruits. Even when they have nothing to do with IU. He's sooo well connected. Aren't you impressed?
Well connected?? ROFLMAO!!!!
Last time he displayed his "connections" we got this:
Pretty damn impressive . . .
I personally knew RMK and Davis. Haven’t talked to them in years. I met and talked to KS several times, Crean at a couple events but never well, and I’ve never talked to Archie in my life.
But I hear a lot from current and former boosters I’m still close with. Settle down kiddo.
So, no, you don't personally know all the coaches or their character. Got it. It was just your usual bullshit - albeit on a grander scale than usual.
Again, you don’t.
So YOU can’t personally judge the character of Davis against everyone else. Do you need me to draw three dimensional diagrams on the toilet paper so you’ll know how to wipe your a$$?
How many of those four, if they were of sound mind, would know your name if you encountered them today?
How many of those four, if they were of sound mind, would recognize you if you encountered them today?
I think people forget that it was rationalized by most at the time as a welcomed hire. Yes, he got caught at Oklahoma in a little bit of shadiness, but everyone assumed that after a guy is embarrassed once, he wouldn’t dare jeopardize a dream job like IU by doing something stupid twice. Most coaches would have kept their noses clean and let the chips fall as they may. Maybe he abused his cell phone privileges due to the perceived pressure to succeed.
Still, if IU hadn’t self reported, oh, what might have been instead. A big fat book could easily be filled on the rise and demise of IU basketball. Unfortunately, the story is still being written with no immediate end in sight.
Cell phones were a relatively new recruiting tool at the time and I don’t think phone call histories were appreciated like they are today in solving crimes. I can’t believe some other coaches weren’t doing the same thing. It would have been easy for other athletic directors to say, “Hey, maybe we should go back and look at some of our coach’s phone logs just to make sure we’re clean”. No other school ever reported any cell phone infractions, which is surprising to me. I guess other schools weren’t stupid enough to blow the whistle on their own coach’s, after all, look what it did to Indiana.
Who cares.
A coach in hot water with the NCAA should have never been considered. The end. Don't complicate it.
If he wasn't caught wit the cell phones he'd have done something else. That's what that type of hubris gets you.
Exactly. The fact that he broke the same rule shows that he doesn't believe the rules apply to him. Since he was breaking that rule at IU, there are likely others that he was breaking as well. And he obviously thinks he's smarter and more crafty than he actually is.
Hindsight is always of clearer vision than foresight. At the time, and especially after he snagged Eric Gordon, the North Central HS kid committed to Illinois, all but a few were extremely happy with the hire, despite his indiscretions which were rationalized as being relatively minor in offense.
He should have never been considered. Not here. No hindsight needed.
IU fans, generally speaking, loved the hire at the time regardless of Sampson's issues elsewhere. People thought he wouldn't need to cheat to be successful here because "It's Indiana!" How could just about any coach not win big with our tradition and in this recruiting hotbed of a state? I'm telling you, that's what people used to think. Some still do, but not nearly as many.
I don't disagree with any of this. I remember it that way too. The average joe wanted anyone but Davis. Hell, I did too. Anyone that wasn't sketchy, which Sampson clearly was. He shoud have never been considered.
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