I just got back from a Spring Break-ish trip to Arizona to hang out with my gf's dad for a week (the niece who's in her senior year at Iowa was also there with her bf and demanded that auntie and I were there).
Pops is extremely conservative as is his entire circle (not judging, just laying out the landscape) and we would wind down our days over at 'Gavin's' for beers and conversation. Of course we all know it can take a turn at any minute...from a quick snide remark to a comment about a benign topic.... there's always a trap door in the conversation that leads to well, the kinds of discussions that we have on here.
So that moment happens and we're off. 7 trump loving, God fearing conservatives and myself, the gf, her niece and her boyfriend. Down the hole we all go. The gf just stews. The niece who is normally aggressive stays quiet. The bf doesn't say a word and later tells me he's learned it's not worth it. Which leaves me....the boyfriend (not the son) of pop's daughter, who we all hug it out and spend a bunch of time together....I have to go into super calm, rational mode (I can't insult these guys personally like we typically do on here).
Anyway, almost every point made and thrown my way has been debated on the cooler. From the banks imploding, to Ukraine to the Trump cases to flying migrants to trans taking over the world to student loans....and I was able to navigate it smoothly all thanks to the cooler.
The snarkiness comments I got back was 'where do you get your news CNN??' and 'you have answers for everything don't you!!!'.
When I think about that question of 'where do you get your news' I have to honestly say....a big part is from this water cooler. I definitely read the reactions in topics from the cooler....and I think that's a good thing.
Sure we're missing a lot of representation (women, minorities) but we definitely have a full spectrum of opinions which makes this different than an echo chamber.
As frustrating as some discussions can get (I've been more of a lurker lately cuz of the time needed to participate) I appreciate being able to read everyone's POV, no matter how crazy they might seem to me.
Thank you for that and thank you for having me better prepared to go into a potentially damaging, conversation as the outsider/brother in law position.
Pops is extremely conservative as is his entire circle (not judging, just laying out the landscape) and we would wind down our days over at 'Gavin's' for beers and conversation. Of course we all know it can take a turn at any minute...from a quick snide remark to a comment about a benign topic.... there's always a trap door in the conversation that leads to well, the kinds of discussions that we have on here.
So that moment happens and we're off. 7 trump loving, God fearing conservatives and myself, the gf, her niece and her boyfriend. Down the hole we all go. The gf just stews. The niece who is normally aggressive stays quiet. The bf doesn't say a word and later tells me he's learned it's not worth it. Which leaves me....the boyfriend (not the son) of pop's daughter, who we all hug it out and spend a bunch of time together....I have to go into super calm, rational mode (I can't insult these guys personally like we typically do on here).
Anyway, almost every point made and thrown my way has been debated on the cooler. From the banks imploding, to Ukraine to the Trump cases to flying migrants to trans taking over the world to student loans....and I was able to navigate it smoothly all thanks to the cooler.
The snarkiness comments I got back was 'where do you get your news CNN??' and 'you have answers for everything don't you!!!'.
When I think about that question of 'where do you get your news' I have to honestly say....a big part is from this water cooler. I definitely read the reactions in topics from the cooler....and I think that's a good thing.
Sure we're missing a lot of representation (women, minorities) but we definitely have a full spectrum of opinions which makes this different than an echo chamber.
As frustrating as some discussions can get (I've been more of a lurker lately cuz of the time needed to participate) I appreciate being able to read everyone's POV, no matter how crazy they might seem to me.
Thank you for that and thank you for having me better prepared to go into a potentially damaging, conversation as the outsider/brother in law position.