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90 day pause in tariffs

Donald Pump (and Dump)

In reverse. I mean he did give us a couple hours notice to

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What a country.
 
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I’d actually believe that this was an Art of the Deal thing if they were able to provide ANY extrinsic evidence that this was indeed the plan all along.

Until then, I’ll remain firmly convinced that the pause was a direct result of poorly received policy.

The thing is, no matter what, he will declare victory. That’s the true Trump MO. Just act like a success, image is the most important thing.

They gave us FORMULAS!

It was very scientific
 
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Was this the de minimis? Or just your Pakistan suppliers?
Just Pakistan. But de minimis would have also been a pain as we constantly get prototypes etc shipped. Having everything held would have been a nightmare
 
Just Pakistan. But de minimis would have also been a pain as we constantly get prototypes etc shipped. Having everything held would have been a nightmare

Far as I can tell the de minimis is only being killed for China. So your daughter is probably done with Shein.

But yeah. There's still the 10% in place, so I don't know how that plays out for you. Where's that getting paid? Everything on the water already is clear, from what I understand. But after that?
 
What is it that you think Trump was trying to accomplish with this whole tariff plan? Has he now accomplished it? What do we need to see happen to know if he has been successful or not?
He claims 70 countries contracted him to negotiate bilateral agreements. That was his objective. His negotiators said it will take 90 days to work through all the deals.

He has only mentioned 4 or 5 countries, not 70.
 
Far as I can tell the de minimis is only being killed for China. So your daughter is probably done with Shein.

But yeah. There's still the 10% in place, so I don't know how that plays out for you. Where's that getting paid? Everything on the water already is clear, from what I understand. But after that?
De minimis kicks in 5/2. Hopefully this gets sorted prior thereto. Yes Shein is toast. Tik tok may be as well
 
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He claims 70 countries contracted him to negotiate bilateral agreements. That was his objective. His negotiators said it will take 90 days to work through all the deals.

He has only mentioned 4 or 5 countries, not 70.
So this whole thing was pressure on all these countries to renegotiate quickly?
 
Yep the plan was china with other countries slated to follow.

Was just reading about the Ford F150. The sourcing for every piece that goes into comes from 26 different countries.

We had some big brain poster here claim last week that it's no big deal to just not buy imports and it's not a tax.
 
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Was just reading about the Ford F150. The sourcing for every piece that goes into comes from 26 different countries.

We had some big brain poster here claim last week that it's no big deal to just not buy imports and it's not a tax.
That’s incredible.
 
Was just reading about the Ford F150. The sourcing for every piece that goes into comes from 26 different countries.

We had some big brain poster here claim last week that it's no big deal to just not buy imports and it's not a tax.
Did what you read discuss the total value of the foreign parts? Do you have a link?
 
He claims 70 countries contracted him to negotiate bilateral agreements. That was his objective. His negotiators said it will take 90 days to work through all the deals.

He has only mentioned 4 or 5 countries, not 70.
And they all called him Sir. What an idiot.
 
F150s are already $50k for a basic model. Forget the fancy ones that are already $75k.+

A fully sourced basic, built in USA, F150 will be a $80k within 5 years

MAGA!
 
Was from a WSJ piece but they also have a video

Interesting. The fast eat the slow. Since his inauguration, Trump has been operating at warp speed. Theoretically that’s a good thing. Problem is, he also is fast to reverse course or change direction. That might be good for an individual company trying to stay or get ahead. In the case of the leader of the free world, its effect seems to be very enturbulating, creating disruption, confusion, uncertainty, all of which seem to function to slow things down.

I have always thought of the American spirit engendering our ability to move fast, be creative, outrace the world competition. Trump‘s enforced contraction of our wherewithal from the entire world to within our borders seems very constricting and very debilitating to US companies.

What is his plan to speed us up so we can eat the slow?
 
Interesting. The fast eat the slow. Since his inauguration, Trump has been operating at warp speed. Theoretically that’s a good thing. Problem is, he also is fast to reverse course or change direction. That might be good for an individual company trying to stay or get ahead. In the case of the leader of the free world, its effect seems to be very enturbulating, creating disruption, confusion, uncertainty, all of which seem to function to slow things down.

I have always thought of the American spirit engendering our ability to move fast, be creative, outrace the world competition. Trump‘s enforced contraction of our wherewithal from the entire world to within our borders seems very constricting and very debilitating to US companies.

What is his plan to speed us up so we can eat the slow?

Trump is open to new ideas, but I don't think he still fully grasps the idea of a service and information based economy. His mind is always fixated on hard goods.

We export a lot from this country. It just doesn't go on container ships.
 
You need to calm down a little.

Yes men? Did you even read your link?

Yeah, the bond sell off was a factor and I give Trump (or his advisors) credit for recognizing the issue. The morons are the bond sellers. The stock sellers too.

Moreover, if it is true 70 countries have reached out the tariffs already served a an important purpose.
 
You need to calm down a little.

Yes men? Did you even read your link?

Yeah, the bond sell off was a factor and I give Trump (or his advisors) credit for recognizing the issue. The morons are the bond sellers. The stock sellers too.

Moreover, if it is true 70 countries have reached out the tariffs already served a an important purpose.

No I don't. The Presidency was never designed to wield such power and Congress needs to take it back immediately since we now have such an out of control executive.

You believe whatever ridiculous bullshit they tell you, and then repeat it. This is a den of liars. The market called them out and they had to fully retract their entire policy to stop an entire dislocation of the the Treasury market. That alone should tell you how reckless they are.

You won't admit they are **** ups that have no clue what they are doing because you have an ego as terrible as Trump
 
You need to calm down a little.

Yes men? Did you even read your link?

Yeah, the bond sell off was a factor and I give Trump (or his advisors) credit for recognizing the issue. The morons are the bond sellers. The stock sellers too.

Moreover, if it is true 70 countries have reached out the tariffs already served a an important purpose.
There is a reason dems are in trouble its just pure hate driven. The bond sell off was seen by trump it had nothing to do with the stock market. I still cannot believe anyone sold off stocks on the fear though. I mean at least give it a few weeks but no the panic freaked them out like clockwork. I mean the cooler educated mostly white guys better realize the dems need an actual moderate and maybe not a politician to win in 2028. Hate does not win presidential elections only midterms. I would advise them to find a non politician but the dem machine probably wont let it happen look at how they kicked bernie to the curb. They will likely end up with harris again or newsome. Bill Clinton was the smartest dem in a long time but even hilary would not listen to him.
 
I'm well aware. This will either need to get solved in next couple of months or were in for some nasty times that I don't think most Americans realize yet

Thats why I posted that realism question: what jobs do people expect to return or be created? That's why I think the whole tariff thingy is a ruse. He is shorting the market or buying distressed assets after this.

The damage internationally has been nothing short of a disaster.

The favourability ratings have already been trending downwards in Asia (other than the Philippines). But it has accelerated in the past six months. Asians just want to trade and do business. All these threats and instability only portray the US as the bad actor and an unreliable partner.
 
I think Bessment is pretty smart.

Well, you agree with Musk.

Bessent is a weak ass yes man. That's already obvious. Spent the week a stuttering fool. I've never been less impressed by a Treasury Secretary than this guy. Totally out of his element and looks like shit on TV. So he'll be gone within a year

Musk is Musk and will say whatever he wants. And he's already told you this week what he thinks of the trade people around Trump. I think 'moron' and 'dumber than a stack of bricks' were his descriptions.

He's already dead in this admin
 
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There is a reason dems are in trouble its just pure hate driven. The bond sell off was seen by trump it had nothing to do with the stock market. I still cannot believe anyone sold off stocks on the fear though. I mean at least give it a few weeks but no the panic freaked them out like clockwork. I mean the cooler educated mostly white guys better realize the dems need an actual moderate and maybe not a politician to win in 2028. Hate does not win presidential elections only midterms. I would advise them to find a non politician but the dem machine probably wont let it happen look at how they kicked bernie to the curb. They will likely end up with harris again or newsome. Bill Clinton was the smartest dem in a long time but even hilary would not listen to him.
Do you think Democrats were sellers and Republicans were buyers Monday?
 
Bessent is a weak ass yes man. That's already obvious.
I wish I was as much of a yes man $2.9 billion in one year ain’t bad. Not in your territory, but pretty good.

“In the year 2023, Institutional Investor reported that Scott Bessent earned a personal $2.9 billion as a hedge fund manager.This figure placed him at the top of the 23rd annual Rich List, a ranking of the highest-earning hedge fund managers.“​
 
Thats why I posted that realism question: what jobs do people expect to return or be created? That's why I think the whole tariff thingy is a ruse. He is shorting the market or buying distressed assets after this.

The damage internationally has been nothing short of a disaster.

The favourability ratings have already been trending downwards in Asia (other than the Philippines). But it has accelerated in the past six months. Asians just want to trade and do business. All these threats and instability only portray the US as the bad actor and an unreliable partner.

It's amazing watching a President destroy his own economy trying to recreate an economy from 40 years ago. Only mental illness or geriatric brain can come up with this shit
 
Do you think Democrats were sellers and Republicans were buyers Monday?
I know i was a buyer and have been for a week now . I am republican but it had nothing to do with it I know fear in markets and knew it would not last because this was not based on something like 2008. I saw it in 2020 covid panic as well and made a ton of money on it. Steady hands make money and weak hands sell out. This was not going to last and i knew it so I bought while i could. But i do think the left wing media convinced some liberals to sell with the panic narrative. I know how to invest and panic is your worst enemy all the time. Its different if the economy has totally collapsed like 2008 but to just sell out based on some tariffs in one week is not smart. You see how quickly it can come back.
 
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I’d actually believe that this was an Art of the Deal thing if they were able to provide ANY extrinsic evidence that this was indeed the plan all along.

Until then, I’ll remain firmly convinced that the pause was a direct result of poorly received policy.

The thing is, no matter what, he will declare victory. That’s the true Trump MO. Just act like a success, image is the most important thing.
 
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