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2 Assistants, 10 schollie players

Archie is doing wonders for the budget.

Nice troll attempt. Childress and Blackmon will likely be awarded 1 year scholarships this year to fill the quota that is usually customary practices. We actually have 11 on scholarship now and two of the walk-ons will grab #'s 12 and 13 and this thread becomes irrelevant.
 
Why would they give 2 walk-ons scholarships? This is ridiculous reasoning. Remember ROSTER FLEXIBILITY to get a mid-year transfer.


Nice troll attempt. Childress and Blackmon will likely be awarded 1 year scholarships this year to fill the quota that is usually customary practices. We actually have 11 on scholarship now and two of the walk-ons will grab #'s 12 and 13 and this thread becomes irrelevant.
 
Why would they give 2 walk-ons scholarships? This is ridiculous reasoning. Remember ROSTER FLEXIBILITY to get a mid-year transfer.

Then why are you bitching about IU only carrying 11 scholarships? Exactly that, just to bitch. Most teams award walk-ons with a yearly scholarship when they aren't filled. It's customary at just about every university.
 
No it's not. He should have at least recruited another player. No one is 2 players short. That is not factual.

HAHAHAH bullshit. Purdue entered last year with 10 true scholarship players and gave one to Grady Eifert who actually played and then two walk-ons. It's rare to see a team use all 13 scholarships in any given year. You don't have roster flexibility when all 13 scholarships are tied down. Learn something.
 
Purdue was in the tournament the year before and Eifert was a part of that. Blackmon never played and won't play this year.

HAHAHAH bullshit. Purdue entered last year with 10 true scholarship players and gave one to Grady Eifert who actually played and then two walk-ons. It's rare to see a team use all 13 scholarships in any given year. You don't have roster flexibility when all 13 scholarships are tied down. Learn something.
 
Purdue was in the tournament the year before and Eifert was a part of that. Blackmon never played and won't play this year.

That's irrelevant. Teams don't carry 13 scholarship players because you don't need 13 players in your rotation. Most teams carry 10-11, sometimes 12 and then award the remaining scholarships to walk-ons for one off years. This isn't a new or hard concept.
 

Teams normally don’t carry 11, 12 happens all the time. UK and duke have carried less because they have 5 5 stars. Not the norm what so ever.
 
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Teams normally don’t carry 11, 12 happens all the time. UK and duke have carried less because they have 5 5 stars. Not the norm what so ever.

Ohio State carried 11 last year.

Purdue carried 10.

Louisville carried 11 and gave one to walk-on Jacob Redding.

Villanova carried 11 last year and was down to 10 when Tim Delaney transferred.

Tennessee carried 11

Gonzaga carried 11

Texas Tech carried 11

Maryland carried 10

I’m tired of doing this
 
I'll betcha Georgia will have about 15 floating around pretty soon.
I expect Georgia to be near the leaders in turnovers this season. I am glad that Turnover Tom took his no D, high turnover offense to Georgia. Turnover Tom can hide his mediocrity better in football country.
 
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It's pretty well documented that Archie likes to not use all his scholarships.

He did it quite often at Dayton.
 
If I hear anyone bitch about not having bodies to practice this year I’ll make sure to bring this up.

With Jerome a huge question mark, deron and races history, and IUs overall great luck with injuries I would guess it will come up.

I would have taken any grad transfer, literally anyone that played D1 last year. One year here hurts no1.
 
If I hear anyone bitch about not having bodies to practice this year I’ll make sure to bring this up.

With Jerome a huge question mark, deron and races history, and IUs overall great luck with injuries I would guess it will come up.

I would have taken any grad transfer, literally anyone that played D1 last year. One year here hurts no1.

Ummmm no...there will never be a problem having enough bodies to practice/scrimmage. Between walk-ons and managers, that never happens unless half the team comes down with a bug. And if Hunter, Race and Deron can't go for most of this season, that is a problem some 11th and 12th man grad transfers (See Fitzner) aren't going to solve. You will get just as much out of your walk-ons and and I would rather see Archie reward them for their selfless contribution with a one off one year scholly.

And simply put, there is no legitimate reason to bring in a grad transfer on scholly unless you think he makes the team better...period. Crap like that can do more harm than good.
 
Methinks someone is upset IU landed another quality in state player and is looking for things to ***** about...

I was thinking the same. There's what, two or three threads now about the number of scholarships used and the current open assistant position?

There's always something.
 
History shows us that we need all 13 scholarships in play to have competitive practices.

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No it's not. He should have at least recruited another player. No one is 2 players short. That is not factual.
There are many things to be upset about, this is not one of them. Plenty of teams carry less than 13 scholarship players, plenty of good teams. Just because Crean tried to sign a second roster doesn't mean it was normal.
 
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There are many things to be upset about, this is not one of them. Plenty of teams carry less than 13 scholarship players, plenty of good teams. Just because Crean tried to sign a second roster doesn't mean it was normal.
Well...we also never had so many grown men crying about and blaming injuries for a poor season as last year...although the injuries were minor...

Sure didn’t hear all the whining when at least BlackmonJr, Hartman, OG, Morgan all got hurt the same season...

So if so many on here are going to whine and cry about injuries and not having bodies to even practice...then it sure as hell makes no sense to leave scholarships open and call it a good thing!
 
Well...we also never had so many grown men crying about and blaming injuries for a poor season as last year...although the injuries were minor...

Sure didn’t hear all the whining when at least BlackmonJr, Hartman, OG, Morgan all got hurt the same season...

So if so many on here are going to whine and cry about injuries and not having bodies to even practice...then it sure as hell makes no sense to leave scholarships open and call it a good thing!

And guys like Tim Priller still didn't play. You can get walk-ons to practice, managers to practice. You can run out football players who want to stay in shape for practice. Kentucky had 9 scholarship players last year, they seemed to be able to practice alright. The idea that you need to waste a 4 year scholarship on somebody simply so you have enough bodies to practice in case of an injury is legit the worst take on this board. Tim Priller played 71 minutes in 4 years. Please don't ever tell me or anyone else again that a team needs to carry 13 scholarship players.
 
Well...we also never had so many grown men crying about and blaming injuries for a poor season as last year...although the injuries were minor...

Sure didn’t hear all the whining when at least BlackmonJr, Hartman, OG, Morgan all got hurt the same season...

So if so many on here are going to whine and cry about injuries and not having bodies to even practice...then it sure as hell makes no sense to leave scholarships open and call it a good thing!

You calling someone out for whining and crying is hoot.

"although the injuries were minor"! The king of hyperbole strikes again. Some were minor but some were not. Hunter's injury was NOT minor, same with RT concussion. RP had a concussion too, something that if minor, you don't miss the number of games he did. Yes, Romeo's injury was minor but it was to his shooting hand. Would you try just once and while to be balanced in your posts? TIA
 
And guys like Tim Priller still didn't play. You can get walk-ons to practice, managers to practice. You can run out football players who want to stay in shape for practice. Kentucky had 9 scholarship players last year, they seemed to be able to practice alright. The idea that you need to waste a 4 year scholarship on somebody simply so you have enough bodies to practice in case of an injury is legit the worst take on this board. Tim Priller played 71 minutes in 4 years. Please don't ever tell me or anyone else again that a team needs to carry 13 scholarship players.
grad transfers...

Plus - you ignore the whiners this past season claiming practices were inefficient because of injury
 
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And guys like Tim Priller still didn't play. You can get walk-ons to practice, managers to practice. You can run out football players who want to stay in shape for practice. Kentucky had 9 scholarship players last year, they seemed to be able to practice alright. The idea that you need to waste a 4 year scholarship on somebody simply so you have enough bodies to practice in case of an injury is legit the worst take on this board. Tim Priller played 71 minutes in 4 years. Please don't ever tell me or anyone else again that a team needs to carry 13 scholarship players.

Grad transfers for 1 year is what the smart fans are arguing. No1 said go get a senior in HS like priller that is retarded.

Getting a 1 year grad transfer is only a positive. Fitzner, is the worst case scenario that you can have happen. If you are a good coach fitzner adds a ton of help in practice. If you haven’t noticed, more and more bigs are stretching the floor. Fitzner was 6’10 and could move a bit, and was suppose to be a good three point shooter.

You know what a luxury it is to have guys that just want to shoot threes at that size to practice on? Who cares if his shot goes in in practice. Race, Jake and cliff should have got a lot of practice guarding a big on the three point line. Well, race didn’t cuz he was injured all year and cliff and Jake can take that knowledge elsewhere.... but you get the point. I would take fitzner again knowing how bad he was simply to help tj d guarding a big out on the perimeter. You aren’t finding 6’10 in shape on the football squad or hyper.
 
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Grad transfers for 1 year is what the smart fans are arguing. No1 said go get a senior in HS like priller that is retarded.

Getting a 1 year grad transfer is only a positive. Fitzner, is the worst case scenario that you can have happen. If you are a good coach fitzner adds a ton of help in practice. If you haven’t noticed, more and more bigs are stretching the floor. Fitzner was 6’10 and could move a bit, and was suppose to be a good three point shooter.

You know what a luxury it is to have guys that just want to shoot threes at that size to practice on? Who cares if his shot goes in in practice. Race, Jake and cliff should have got a lot of practice guarding a big on the three point line. Well, race didn’t cuz he was injured all year and cliff and Jake can take that knowledge elsewhere.... but you get the point. I would take fitzner again knowing how bad he was simply to help tj d guarding a big out on the perimeter. You aren’t finding 6’10 in shape on the football squad or hyper.

And how many 6'10 shooters were in the transfer market?

And do you know for a fact that Archie didn't try and get any transfers to IU?
 
grad transfers...

Plus - you ignore the whiners this past season claiming practices were inefficient because of injury

Did Tim Priller make IU a better team because of his practice abilities? There's a reason why guys like 6'6 Freddie McSwain and 6'6 Justin Smith played over him in the front court, he sucked.

I'm all for grad transfers, when it's a fit for both parties. Are we just going to ignore that Archie went out and got a grad transfer in Joey Brunk? There's grad transfer that work out (see Max Bielfeldt) and then there's grad transfers like Jon Hart (purdue-----IUPUI) who flunk out and don't work out. If Archie felt the need to add more players to his roster, then he would have. Evidently not. 11 scholarship players is more than enough to not only practice with, but also put together a rotation with. I just listed a dozen or so schools last year who only had 10-12 scholarship players last year and I could list 100 more if you really wanted me too. No team has a 13 man rotation, and most teams rarely have a rotation of 10-11 guys. This isn't a new or novel concept.
 
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Well...we also never had so many grown men crying about and blaming injuries for a poor season as last year...although the injuries were minor...

Sure didn’t hear all the whining when at least BlackmonJr, Hartman, OG, Morgan all got hurt the same season...

So if so many on here are going to whine and cry about injuries and not having bodies to even practice...then it sure as hell makes no sense to leave scholarships open and call it a good thing!
Member of the Negative Nancy Whine and Troll Club going by name of cryano talking about whining and crying of others - that's funny.
 
Did Tim Priller make IU a better team because of his practice abilities? There's a reason why guys like 6'6 Freddie McSwain and 6'6 Justin Smith played over him in the front court, he sucked.

I'm all for grad transfers, when it's a fit for both parties. Are we just going to ignore that Archie went out and got a grad transfer in Joey Brunk? There's grad transfer that work out (see Max Bielfeldt) and then there's grad transfers like Jon Hart (purdue-----IUPUI) who flunk out and don't work out. If Archie felt the need to add more players to his roster, then he would have. Evidently not. 11 scholarship players is more than enough to not only practice with, but also put together a rotation with. I just listed a dozen or so schools last year who only had 10-12 scholarship players last year and I could list 100 more if you really wanted me too. No team has a 13 man rotation, and most teams rarely have a rotation of 10-11 guys. This isn't a new or novel concept.


Those of us that were hoping for another transfer were not concerned with the # of players on the bench......rather, the problem is/was that there is/was a lack of outside shooting. Purdue addressed the issue with a grad transfer who looks like a great fit. We did not go after that type of transfer, although there were many on the market and we had available scholarships. It was really a head scratcher imo because there was nothing to lose. It wasn't like we had to worry about the great "chemistry" our team had. It's certainly possible 3 point shooting won't be an issue this year, esp. if Hunter plays. If it is an issue, CAM should answer for it.
 
Those of us that were hoping for another transfer were not concerned with the # of players on the bench......rather, the problem is/was that there is/was a lack of outside shooting. Purdue addressed the issue with a grad transfer who looks like a great fit. We did not go after that type of transfer, although there were many on the market and we had available scholarships. It was really a head scratcher imo because there was nothing to lose. It wasn't like we had to worry about the great "chemistry" our team had. It's certainly possible 3 point shooting won't be an issue this year, esp. if Hunter plays. If it is an issue, CAM should answer for it.

IU signed a guy who was a career 43% shooter on over 300 attempts last year, look how that turned out. There's no guarantee. I trust the outside shooting of Al Durham, who has shown marked improvement in his shooting throughout his career (was hitting over 40% until a dislocated finger) and Green who is a career 40% shooter. Rob Phinisee should improve his shot as he matures. IU's two volume shooters last year happened to be their worst by percentage. IU's numbers should improve simply because Juwan and Romeo are no longer shooting 3 pointers. Purdue's grad transfer they signed is a career 34% shooter. Purdue's grad transfer who averaged a double-double in 2 years at Dartmouth couldn't crack the rotation next year. If Archie though there was another grad transfer out there that could have helped his team he would have pursued one more aggressively.
 
And guys like Tim Priller still didn't play. You can get walk-ons to practice, managers to practice. You can run out football players who want to stay in shape for practice. Kentucky had 9 scholarship players last year, they seemed to be able to practice alright. The idea that you need to waste a 4 year scholarship on somebody simply so you have enough bodies to practice in case of an injury is legit the worst take on this board. Tim Priller played 71 minutes in 4 years. Please don't ever tell me or anyone else again that a team needs to carry 13 scholarship players.
D1 Transfer Walk-on McRoberts played more minutes in 3 years than 4 Year Scholarship Priller. Crean recruited several players who were not B1G level talents.
 
Those of us that were hoping for another transfer were not concerned with the # of players on the bench......rather, the problem is/was that there is/was a lack of outside shooting. Purdue addressed the issue with a grad transfer who looks like a great fit. We did not go after that type of transfer, although there were many on the market and we had available scholarships. It was really a head scratcher imo because there was nothing to lose. It wasn't like we had to worry about the great "chemistry" our team had. It's certainly possible 3 point shooting won't be an issue this year, esp. if Hunter plays. If it is an issue, CAM should answer for it.
For those 4-year guys to develop, you don’t need a suspect grad transfer coming in and taking some of the playing and practice time.

Just because they are only available one year doesn’t make them less of a chemistry issue. Unless it’s the perfect fit, I’d choose to pass.
 
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