Forget the Bison Mascot, just hire Sydney Parrish full time and let her walk the sidelines! VBG! She would be a great representative for IU sports.
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Wait - you’re actually concerned about a mascot scaring kids? My point is no effeminate Purdue Pete redux.You do realize this mascot won't be playing on the team, right? That the purpose of this mascot is for the kids and not to give 'rah rah' speeches to the team before kickoff? Or are you just into masculine furries?
I'll second that motionForget the Bison Mascot, just hire Sydney Parrish full time and let her walk the sidelines! VBG! She would be a great representative for IU sports.
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Get ready to be disappointed. Live Bison don't have fingers.Better b a live one. Know interest in a costume because it can be done so poorly
Not scaring kids is a high priority. Because, frankly, one of the major reasons for developing a mascot is to engage kids.Wait - you’re actually concerned about a mascot scaring kids? My point is no effeminate Purdue Pete redux.
Okay. What kind of bison costume would scare a kid? Pls describe.Not scaring kids is a high priority. Because, frankly, one of the major reasons for developing a mascot is to engage kids.
Well, since Santa Claus scares the shit out of a lot of kids, I don't think it's a stretch that a bison might do the same.Okay. What kind of bison costume would scare a kid? Pls describe.
Either her or Sydney Sweeney🤤Forget the Bison Mascot, just hire Sydney Parrish full time and let her walk the sidelines! VBG! She would be a great representative for IU sports.
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Not scaring kids is a high priority. Because, frankly, one of the major reasons for developing a mascot is to engage kids.
That's your opinion. I know they did a good amount of research and background on all of this and had some data shared with them that would suggest it's probably good you're not in that line of work with that thinking.The target audience is not newborns to toddlers.
How soft are 3+ year old kids nowadays?
It's asinine to make decisions and direct efforts and investments to pander to .0009% of the populace/fan base.
Neither of them can act, but I'm not complaining.Either her or Sydney Sweeney🤤
I think a real bison would be a little too dangerousBetter b a live one. Know interest in a costume because it can be done so poorly
Colorado does it. It is dangerous, but also awesome and manageable.I think a real bison would be a little too dangerous
Colorado does it. It is dangerous, but also awesome and manageable.
C’mon, man. You have completely missed my point.Well, since Santa Claus scares the shit out of a lot of kids, I don't think it's a stretch that a bison might do the same.
It’s pretty cool Ralphie’s handlers (usually five run with him) will tell you they have no, zip, zilch ability to stop him if they had to. They’re just guiding him and hoping.
I’m good with a person mascot. As long as it looks decent this is all a big plus — fans and kids will love it, and it’s sort of symbolic with new IU football.
It's a female, not a calf. Each Ralphie serves for about ten years. The females are smaller and less aggressive.That's a calf they're barely able to guide into that chute at Folsom and if you look closely it's a really pathetic representation of the species...
If we tried to put a decent looking full grown Bison out there he'd weigh up to 2 thousand pounds and would be completely uncontrollable... The results wouldn't be pretty.
Now the only way that might work well is to hold the live one in reserve for the just the p u (or o$u) game and send him down the sideline during pregame..., but as humorous as that might be imagined (players and coaches being tossed, gored, and trampled), even with my near hatred of all things p u (and o$u) I wouldn't want to see someone maimed for life just because they had the poor judgment to attend those schools... Even "I" draw the line at That... 😉
It's a female, not a calf. Each Ralphie serves for about ten years. The females are smaller and less aggressive.
It is true that even the females are just guided, and the handlers couldn't stop them if they wanted to, but it would be ok. And loads of fun.
Ralphie has never hurt anyone in 60 years in Boulder. It would be expensive though.
The handlers get scholarships and a varsity letter. Don't act like that wouldn't be awesome.
It's a female, not a calf. Each Ralphie serves for about ten years. The females are smaller and less aggressive.
It is true that even the females are just guided, and the handlers couldn't stop them if they wanted to, but it would be ok. And loads of fun.
Ralphie has never hurt anyone in 60 years in Boulder. It would be expensive though.
The handlers get scholarships and a varsity letter. Don't act like that wouldn't be awesome.
I am. There is no chance that an idiot that climbed into the bison cage would have a viable lawsuit against the university.The Athletic Department is very unlikely to take on the liability of that when they can just get a human who maxes out at 320 to play that role versus a live Bison who's pushing a 1,000 lbs (for a female) or 2,000 (for a male)...
I understand the enthusiasm but having a live one basically running free appears to me to be a Very Bad Idea (and I'd like to see it)...
My next best thing would be to have a couple of great looking Bison inside a tamper proof enclosure for about 3 hours prior to kickoff and about 2 hours after..., that the youngsters could view relatively up close...
My big concern there is pretty much the certainty that some idiot would eventually find a way to climb inside the enclosure and get his just rewards for doing so... (ending up just maimed for life if he's lucky)..,
Once again the liability factor rears its ugly head...
We have enough lawyers on here to verify whether my concerns are well founded or not...
You can probably tell me...; I think I've read you're a lawyer (apologies if I've mis-pigeon holed you) 😎
I am. There is no chance that an idiot that climbed into the bison cage would have a viable lawsuit against the university.
Ralphie's handlers main function, other than running with her, is to keep people away from her, for her safety and theirs.
I think the liability concerns are very over-blown. Ralphie's handlers have hurt more people than Ralphie has over the years.
And even if we paid off one lawsuit a year, which is unlikely, it would still be a fraction of the IU budget. We'd be fine.
The better argument for why not is that Ralphie is expensive. 15 scholarships for handlers, a ranch, a special trailer, and a replacement bison every ten years--all for a total of 12-16 minutes of fun per year.
Bit, it's not my money. Let's go!
Yea. The design needs to be good. I think it will turn out just fine. As far as I can tell, Scott has pretty good judgment. And Cig is detail oriented enough that he would have seen it and he wouldn't sign off on something that looks bad.I'm okay with a well-designed rough and tough bison costumed mascot IF they also bring back some version of the Bison promo video previously employed at MS. That was fun.
Perfection.
OK, now I'm really jacked up. Coach Cig for the win!Perfection.
People in the stadium and on the field showed incredible bravery not running for the exitsSome tech knowledgeable people at IU need to figure out how you can create a mixed reality Bison and unleash it on the stadium similar to how the Panthers did below. There is no way you could do a real bison without getting someone hurt.
320?The Athletic Department is very unlikely to take on the liability of that when they can just get a human who maxes out at 320 to play that role versus a live Bison who's pushing a 1,000 lbs (for a female) or 2,000 (for a male)...
I understand the enthusiasm but having a live one basically running free appears to me to be a Very Bad Idea (and I'd like to see it)...
My next best thing would be to have a couple of great looking Bison inside a tamper proof enclosure for about 3 hours prior to kickoff and about 2 hours after..., so that the youngsters could view them relatively up close...
My big concern there is pretty much the certainty that some idiot would eventually find a way to climb inside the enclosure and get his just rewards for doing so... (ending up just maimed for life if he's lucky)..,
Once again the liability factor rears its ugly head...
We have enough lawyers on here to verify whether my concerns are well founded or not...
You can probably tell me...; I think I've read you're a lawyer (apologies if I've mis-pigeon holed you) 😎
IU Football twitter accountI can't see your link with my ancient phone...
Can you give me hint as to were to find it...
Thanks!
It would certainly be a bit of work, but it is also obviously do-able, if they want to spend the money. It seems clear Bison are not stupid, and can be motivated with positive reinforcement from handlers the Bison trust.Here's a link that speaks to Bison handling and Bison behavior... I can save most of you the time of reading it entirely by saying its target audience appears to be serious Bison ranchers so it's probably more in depth than most would find an interest in...
I'm linking this primarily for anyone associated with the Athletic Department who may actually be entertaining the idea of a Bison enclosure (with one or more Bison inside it)...
It would appear that just getting them in there is a much more complex endeavor than it would seem at face value (for instance, moving the Bison into the enclosure should probably occur the evening Before the game rather than the day of..., etc...)...
And another (for the Athletic Department):
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WHY WALLOW? | K-State researchers study the ins and outs of bison wallows
Wallowing in mystery.themercury.com