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You do realize this mascot won't be playing on the team, right? That the purpose of this mascot is for the kids and not to give 'rah rah' speeches to the team before kickoff? Or are you just into masculine furries?
Wait - you’re actually concerned about a mascot scaring kids? My point is no effeminate Purdue Pete redux.
 
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Not scaring kids is a high priority. Because, frankly, one of the major reasons for developing a mascot is to engage kids.


The target audience is not newborns to toddlers.

How soft are 3+ year old kids nowadays?

It's asinine to make decisions and direct efforts and investments to pander to .0009% of the populace/fan base.
 
The target audience is not newborns to toddlers.

How soft are 3+ year old kids nowadays?

It's asinine to make decisions and direct efforts and investments to pander to .0009% of the populace/fan base.
That's your opinion. I know they did a good amount of research and background on all of this and had some data shared with them that would suggest it's probably good you're not in that line of work with that thinking.

I won't share the small amount I'm privy to because while not shared in absolute confidence, I'm sure some of it they'd prefer to share themselves when the timing is right, which is likely after the full release.
 
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Purdue Pete is currently listed in the West Lafayette police database for convicted child molesters. Need to get him off the streets!
 
Colorado does it. It is dangerous, but also awesome and manageable.

That's a calf they're barely able to guide into that chute at Folsom and if you look closely it's a really pathetic representation of the species...

If we tried to put a decent looking full grown Bison out there he'd weigh up to 2 thousand pounds and would be completely uncontrollable... The results wouldn't be pretty.

Now the only way that might work well is to hold the live one in reserve for the just the p u (or o$u) game and send him down the sideline during pregame..., but as humorous as that might be imagined (players and coaches being tossed, gored, and trampled), even with my near hatred of all things p u (and o$u) I wouldn't want to see someone maimed for life just because they had the poor judgment to attend those schools... Even "I" draw the line at That... 😉
 
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It’s pretty cool Ralphie’s handlers (usually five run with him) will tell you they have no, zip, zilch ability to stop him if they had to. They’re just guiding him and hoping.

I’m good with a person mascot. As long as it looks decent this is all a big plus — fans and kids will love it, and it’s sort of symbolic with new IU football.
 
It’s pretty cool Ralphie’s handlers (usually five run with him) will tell you they have no, zip, zilch ability to stop him if they had to. They’re just guiding him and hoping.

I’m good with a person mascot. As long as it looks decent this is all a big plus — fans and kids will love it, and it’s sort of symbolic with new IU football.

The IU fans I have talked to don't love it.
I am right there with them.
 
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That's a calf they're barely able to guide into that chute at Folsom and if you look closely it's a really pathetic representation of the species...

If we tried to put a decent looking full grown Bison out there he'd weigh up to 2 thousand pounds and would be completely uncontrollable... The results wouldn't be pretty.

Now the only way that might work well is to hold the live one in reserve for the just the p u (or o$u) game and send him down the sideline during pregame..., but as humorous as that might be imagined (players and coaches being tossed, gored, and trampled), even with my near hatred of all things p u (and o$u) I wouldn't want to see someone maimed for life just because they had the poor judgment to attend those schools... Even "I" draw the line at That... 😉
It's a female, not a calf. Each Ralphie serves for about ten years. The females are smaller and less aggressive.

It is true that even the females are just guided, and the handlers couldn't stop them if they wanted to, but it would be ok. And loads of fun.

Ralphie has never hurt anyone in 60 years in Boulder. It would be expensive though.

The handlers get scholarships and a varsity letter. Don't act like that wouldn't be awesome.
 
It's a female, not a calf. Each Ralphie serves for about ten years. The females are smaller and less aggressive.

It is true that even the females are just guided, and the handlers couldn't stop them if they wanted to, but it would be ok. And loads of fun.

Ralphie has never hurt anyone in 60 years in Boulder. It would be expensive though.

The handlers get scholarships and a varsity letter. Don't act like that wouldn't be awesome.

The Athletic Department is very unlikely to take on the liability of that when they can just get a human who maxes out at 320 to play that role versus a live Bison who's pushing a 1,000 lbs (for a female) or 2,000 (for a male)...

I understand the enthusiasm but having a live one basically running free appears to me to be a Very Bad Idea (and I'd like to see it)...

My next best thing would be to have a couple of great looking Bison inside a tamper proof enclosure for about 3 hours prior to kickoff and about 2 hours after..., so that the youngsters could view them relatively up close...

My big concern there is pretty much the certainty that some idiot would eventually find a way to climb inside the enclosure and get his just rewards for doing so... (ending up just maimed for life if he's lucky)..,

Once again the liability factor rears its ugly head...

We have enough lawyers on here to verify whether my concerns are well founded or not...

You can probably tell me...; I think I've read you're a lawyer (apologies if I've mis-pigeon holed you) 😎
 
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It's a female, not a calf. Each Ralphie serves for about ten years. The females are smaller and less aggressive.

It is true that even the females are just guided, and the handlers couldn't stop them if they wanted to, but it would be ok. And loads of fun.

Ralphie has never hurt anyone in 60 years in Boulder. It would be expensive though.

The handlers get scholarships and a varsity letter. Don't act like that wouldn't be awesome.


According to my avatar the misgendered "Ralphie" is an exceptionally poor representative of the species and a mobile embarrassment to most
Bison...

According to him no self respecting Bison would ever allow even the perception of their being "led" anywhere... 😉😎
 
The Athletic Department is very unlikely to take on the liability of that when they can just get a human who maxes out at 320 to play that role versus a live Bison who's pushing a 1,000 lbs (for a female) or 2,000 (for a male)...

I understand the enthusiasm but having a live one basically running free appears to me to be a Very Bad Idea (and I'd like to see it)...

My next best thing would be to have a couple of great looking Bison inside a tamper proof enclosure for about 3 hours prior to kickoff and about 2 hours after..., that the youngsters could view relatively up close...

My big concern there is pretty much the certainty that some idiot would eventually find a way to climb inside the enclosure and get his just rewards for doing so... (ending up just maimed for life if he's lucky)..,

Once again the liability factor rears its ugly head...

We have enough lawyers on here to verify whether my concerns are well founded or not...

You can probably tell me...; I think I've read you're a lawyer (apologies if I've mis-pigeon holed you) 😎
I am. There is no chance that an idiot that climbed into the bison cage would have a viable lawsuit against the university.

Ralphie's handlers main function, other than running with her, is to keep people away from her, for her safety and theirs.

I think the liability concerns are very over-blown. Ralphie's handlers have hurt more people than Ralphie has over the years.

And even if we paid off one lawsuit a year, which is unlikely, it would still be a fraction of the IU budget. We'd be fine.

The better argument for why not is that Ralphie is expensive. 15 scholarships for handlers, a ranch, a special trailer, and a replacement bison every ten years--all for a total of 12-16 minutes of fun per year.

Bit, it's not my money. Let's go!
 
I am. There is no chance that an idiot that climbed into the bison cage would have a viable lawsuit against the university.

Ralphie's handlers main function, other than running with her, is to keep people away from her, for her safety and theirs.

I think the liability concerns are very over-blown. Ralphie's handlers have hurt more people than Ralphie has over the years.

And even if we paid off one lawsuit a year, which is unlikely, it would still be a fraction of the IU budget. We'd be fine.

The better argument for why not is that Ralphie is expensive. 15 scholarships for handlers, a ranch, a special trailer, and a replacement bison every ten years--all for a total of 12-16 minutes of fun per year.

Bit, it's not my money. Let's go!

Well that's great news to me at least...

I'm still voting for the human and the enclosure Bison but I do understand your enthusiasm...

Should be very interesting to see where we are with this on August 30th...

Can't wait!
 
I'm okay with a well-designed rough and tough bison costumed mascot IF they also bring back some version of the Bison promo video previously employed at MS. That was fun.
Yea. The design needs to be good. I think it will turn out just fine. As far as I can tell, Scott has pretty good judgment. And Cig is detail oriented enough that he would have seen it and he wouldn't sign off on something that looks bad.
 
The Athletic Department is very unlikely to take on the liability of that when they can just get a human who maxes out at 320 to play that role versus a live Bison who's pushing a 1,000 lbs (for a female) or 2,000 (for a male)...

I understand the enthusiasm but having a live one basically running free appears to me to be a Very Bad Idea (and I'd like to see it)...

My next best thing would be to have a couple of great looking Bison inside a tamper proof enclosure for about 3 hours prior to kickoff and about 2 hours after..., so that the youngsters could view them relatively up close...

My big concern there is pretty much the certainty that some idiot would eventually find a way to climb inside the enclosure and get his just rewards for doing so... (ending up just maimed for life if he's lucky)..,

Once again the liability factor rears its ugly head...

We have enough lawyers on here to verify whether my concerns are well founded or not...

You can probably tell me...; I think I've read you're a lawyer (apologies if I've mis-pigeon holed you) 😎
320?

I think you're underestimating the dedication of 1 lucky volunteer. We could convince someone to balloon up to 350 at least or have 2 lucky volunteers join up together for a 700 lb human bison.
 
Here's a link that speaks to Bison handling and Bison behavior... I can save most of you the time of reading it entirely by saying its target audience appears to be serious Bison ranchers so it's probably more in depth than most would find an interest in...

I'm linking this primarily for anyone associated with the Athletic Department who may actually be entertaining the idea of a Bison enclosure (with one or more Bison inside it)...

It would appear that just getting them in there is a much more complex endeavor than it would seem at face value (for instance, moving the Bison into the enclosure should probably occur the evening Before the game rather than the day of..., etc...)...


And another (for the Athletic Department):


 
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Here's a link that speaks to Bison handling and Bison behavior... I can save most of you the time of reading it entirely by saying its target audience appears to be serious Bison ranchers so it's probably more in depth than most would find an interest in...

I'm linking this primarily for anyone associated with the Athletic Department who may actually be entertaining the idea of a Bison enclosure (with one or more Bison inside it)...

It would appear that just getting them in there is a much more complex endeavor than it would seem at face value (for instance, moving the Bison into the enclosure should probably occur the evening Before the game rather than the day of..., etc...)...


And another (for the Athletic Department):


It would certainly be a bit of work, but it is also obviously do-able, if they want to spend the money. It seems clear Bison are not stupid, and can be motivated with positive reinforcement from handlers the Bison trust.
 
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