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I'm ready for a nice summer! Garden is in, graduation parties, beach, baseball, and great weather!Anyone else ready for some football?
Can't wait and really don't know what to expect, not only because of what's going on in Bloomington but also the changes around the conference. McSorley's gone from Penn State and they're near the bottom nationally in returning production. At Ohio State, Haskins is now a Sunday player, and one of the best HCs in the history of the game said good-bye to Columbus. Michigan State lost a lot on defense. Purdue returns only about a third of their offensive production. Michigan is really good, but they're breaking in a first-time OC. Nebraska's turning the corner with Frost, but probably still not a national power. Maybe there's a win or three among this group.
It'll be interesting to see what DeBoer is able to do in his first year with an offense that is loaded at the skill positions. Which of the three (Ramsey, Penix, Tuttle) will separate himself from the rest of the QB pack? Does the defense bounce back after a disappointing 2018? Lots of uncertainty, and I'm excited to see how it all plays out.
I hope you're right! These teams at the bottom of the east are not far away from being really good teams. With the possible exception of Rutgers.MSU returns 8 starters on defense (1 linebacker, 2 DB's). Defense should be their strong suit.
Their offense is horrendous. The OL gets blown off the LOS, and the backs have nowhere to run because there are holes. Lewerke's shoulder is still a questionmark. If he returns to his 2017 form the offense should be able to eclipse their 2018 17 PPG average. If not MSU is screwed. None of the backups have shown much promise.
MSU is at best a six win team without massive improvement on the offensive side. All Dantonio did was rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic when it comes to his offensive staff. They are ripe for being overtaken by IU or Maryland.
I should have been clearer. I'm talking returning production, not merely returning starters. It's different - - and more meaningful - - than a returning starters count, per Bill Connelly and the linked article below. As you can see, MSU is ranked 99th in returning defensive production.MSU returns 8 starters on defense (1 linebacker, 2 DB's). Defense should be their strong suit.
Their offense is horrendous. The OL gets blown off the LOS, and the backs have nowhere to run because there are holes. Lewerke's shoulder is still a questionmark. If he returns to his 2017 form the offense should be able to eclipse their 2018 17 PPG average. If not MSU is screwed. None of the backups have shown much promise.
MSU is at best a six win team without massive improvement on the offensive side. All Dantonio did was rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic when it comes to his offensive staff. They are ripe for being overtaken by IU or Maryland.
I should have been clearer. I'm talking returning production, not merely returning starters. It's different - - and more meaningful - - than a returning starters count, per Bill Connelly and the linked article below. As you can see, MSU is ranked 99th in returning defensive production.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-fo...9-ncaa-football-returning-starters-experience
MSU returns 8 starters on defense (lose 1 linebacker, 2 DB's). Defense should be their strong suit.
Their offense is horrendous. The OL gets blown off the LOS, and the backs have nowhere to run because there are no holes. Lewerke's shoulder is still a question mark. If he returns to his 2017 form the offense should be able to eclipse their 2018 17 PPG average. If not MSU is screwed. None of the backups have shown much promise.
MSU is at best a six win team without massive improvement on the offensive side. All Dantonio did was rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic when it comes to his offensive staff. They are ripe for being overtaken by IU or Maryland.
That's an interesting take when MSU returns a front four that is rated as one of the top 5 in the nation. MSU lost a reserve DL in Gerald Owen, but returns everyone else including 1st Team All-American & BIG10 Defensive Linemen of the year, Kenny Willekes, 1st Team All-Big10 DT Raequan Williams, and 2nd Team All-Big10 Mike Panasiuk. All but one of the rotational DL are back (Owens) from a unit that led the nation in rush defense (77.9 yards/game).
Linebacker unit graduated Andrew Dowell (2nd leading tackler), but return MIKE Joe Bachie (1st Team All Big 10, teams leading tackler), and Tyriq Thompson. The backups (Brandon Randle, Antjuan Simmons) played significant amount of snaps. With 2/3 of the linebacking corps returning and two solid replacements this unit shouldn't experience any significant drop off.
The Secondary lost Safety Khari Willis, and Corner Justin Layne to the NFL. Layne became the lockdown corner after 2017 freshman All-American Josiah Scott was lost for the first 9 games of the season. Scott's performance in the final 4 games of the 2018 season resulted in 2 INT's, 7 PBU's, and 13 tackles. He was selected Defensive MVP of the Red Box Bowl. Josh Butler filled in while Scott was out the first 9 games, and then replaced Layne in the bowl game when Layne decided not to play. Safety David Dowell (3rd team All-Big10 in 2018, 59 tackles, 2 INT's) returns for his senior year. Xavier Henderson will take Willis' spot in the secondary. He played last year as a true freshman, rotating in for Willis. He earned the position by passing several veterans.
That ranking of 99th in returning defensive production may be true statistically, but I would venture a strong possibility that the MSU defense will once again rank among the top ten nationally. Too much proven talent on that side of the ball for such a low ranking.
MSU will lose it's share of games this season, but it won't be because of its defense. Losses this season will likely be due to their inept offense.
Can't wait and really don't know what to expect, not only because of what's going on in Bloomington but also the changes around the conference. McSorley's gone from Penn State and they're near the bottom nationally in returning production. At Ohio State, Haskins is now a Sunday player, and one of the best HCs in the history of the game said good-bye to Columbus. Michigan State lost a lot on defense. Purdue returns only about a third of their offensive production. Michigan is really good, but they're breaking in a first-time OC. Nebraska's turning the corner with Frost, but probably still not a national power. Maybe there's a win or three among this group.
It'll be interesting to see what DeBoer is able to do in his first year with an offense that is loaded at the skill positions. Which of the three (Ramsey, Penix, Tuttle) will separate himself from the rest of the QB pack? Does the defense bounce back after a disappointing 2018? Lots of uncertainty, and I'm excited to see how it all plays out.
If IU ever wants to have major success in the Big Ten, this is the kind of D-line they have to build.
The one thing IU has, is a lot more physically gifted athletes on defense. We’ve usually had them on offense. But now we are getting them on defense. Cam Jones, Marcelino Ball, Bryant Fitzgerald, Reese Taylor, James Head, Micah McFadden, Madison Norris, James Miller, Beau Robbins, Cam Williams. These are the kind of guys that you normally see at programs like Michigan State, and Penn State. Fast, aggressive players. We should be able to come downhill on opponents much faster. DT is the area we still need to land some difference makers. We have some guys that can hold their own there, like Jerome Johnson and Juan Harris. And we have a few big bodies coming in like Sio Nofo, and Demarcus Elliot. But we don’t yet have major talent at this position. We could be vulnerable to power running teams because trying to get outside or long on this defense will be extremely difficult.
Me too and this will, for sure, be the most closely watched development. A big deal will be made out of who starts the Ball State game, but I think people need to be careful about not overstating the significance of that Game 1 decision. I see this as a fluid situation. We may not know who "the" guy is until the fourth or fifth game of the season. I'm ok with that, as I have every confidence that Coaches Allen and DeBoer will ultimately go with the guy who gives us the best chance at winning in the conference.I’m watching the QB position.
That's a good take. If Ramsey is the guy, then we will have Ramsey-level performance from the position. As great a kid as he is, we will need better to move up to the next level.I’m watching the QB position. If we have a change at starter, it means we got better. If we don’t have change, at best ...at best... we will have incremental improvement....
I thought Penix had it won also. I think Ramsey is great also but I think he is one of those guys that comes in when your starter goes down and looks amazing.That's a good take. If Ramsey is the guy, then we will have Ramsey-level performance from the position. As great a kid as he is, we will need better to move up to the next level.
I'm still convinced that Penix had the spot won in the PSU game before he went down.
Sure he is. But as Hack put it so well, it will only be incremental improvement. We need more than that.I don't understand the mindset that if Penix or Tuttle win the QB job our offense will be better but if Ramsey wins we will stagnate. Is Ramsey not allowed to improve in the off-season?
Except he leads us to 5 win seasons. Other than that, sure, that's a good comparison.Full disclosure: I like Ramsey. I've stated here before he reminds me of the Iowa/Northwestern QBs who are not particularly good at anything yet lead teams to 8 - 10 wins each year.
I like Ramsey, too. I think it's likely he''ll start the Ball State game, and it's his job to lose. That said, we've got two 4-star guys waiting in the wings, and I'll be surprised if Ramsey isn't on a fairly short leash. As you said, there needs to be more zip on the ball, and we've got to have opponents believing we're capable of going deep. Otherwise, like last year, we become a lot easier to defend.I don't understand the mindset that if Penix or Tuttle win the QB job our offense will be better but if Ramsey wins we will stagnate. Is Ramsey not allowed to improve in the off-season?
Full disclosure: I like Ramsey. I've stated here before he reminds me of the Iowa/Northwestern QBs who are not particularly good at anything yet lead teams to 8 - 10 wins each year.
I think his one glaring weakness is throwing WR screens and quick outs to the sideline. The ball is so slow getting to the sideline that the D closes while the ball is in the air and we get precious few YAC.
Imagine the ball getting there a second sooner and Whop, Gest or Walker catching it with Hale and Westbrook in front to pave the way!
MSU returns 8 starters on defense (lose 1 linebacker, 2 DB's). Defense should be their strong suit.
Their offense is horrendous. The OL gets blown off the LOS, and the backs have nowhere to run because there are no holes. Lewerke's shoulder is still a question mark. If he returns to his 2017 form the offense should be able to eclipse their 2018 17 PPG average. If not MSU is screwed. None of the backups have shown much promise.
MSU is at best a six win team without massive improvement on the offensive side. All Dantonio did was rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic when it comes to his offensive staff. They are ripe for being overtaken by IU or Maryland.
I don’t buy it.
Michigan State will put out solid players on offense. They have talent and always do. I see them no less than an 8 win team this year.
As an IU fan, I’d take their offense in a heartbeat. Dantonio doesn’t put out crap. You are underestimating them.
They will be right up there in the East division as they are every year.