How is that rationale looking now? I don’t know which is worse in Washington politics right now: Greed or ineptness. This is what happens when both parties back presidential candidates with dementia.
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“I don’t like Trump but I like his policies”
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He fumbled both tarriffs and doge badly. And he didn't have to.
Democratic Party hits new polling low, while its voters want to fight Trump harder
Unlike in Trump’s first term, Democratic voters say 2-to-1 they want party leaders to fight rather than compromise, even at the risk of not getting things done, per the NBC News poll.
California Gov. Gavin Newsom calls Democratic brand "toxic" in Bill Maher interview
Gov. Newsom made the remarks in a recent interview on "Real Time with Bill Maher."
www.cbsnews.com
The parties are broken.
Democratic brand is “toxic.” Doubling down on AOC and woke betas
Trump will mercifully be gone. Who knows what destruction will be left
We need a hero to emerge to save us from these two parties
I believe it needs to come from outside the parties to break the grip. Last hero this country produced imo was kimbo slice
We’re due…. We need a leader…. We need a hero
Trump will mercifully be gone. Who knows what destruction will be left
We need a hero to emerge to save us from these two parties
I believe it needs to come from outside the parties to break the grip. Last hero this country produced imo was kimbo slice
We’re due…. We need a leader…. We need a hero
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Most likely will never happen. Third parties lack almost everything needed to win an election. You would have to get the nomination of one of the parties to do it. RFK had decent blue collar appeal and he could not even top 10%.
No chance. Sadly. Left is leaning into progressives. AOC is the party
I don't think she's eligible. But a great cabinet selection. If you do not pick her, you are gay.I was thinking her for vp but I’m not sure the man of war would have a vp.
Fetterman reportedly hates Shapiro. Thinks he's phony.
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I'd vote for Fetterman in a second. Seems like a real common sense dude.
He'd also do press conferences in a hoodie and gym shorts with some new balances on. He's every man's man.
I don't think AOC will ever run for president and if she did, I don't think she'd come close to getting out of the primaries. It's frustrating that more sensible Democrats haven't stepped up - people we've all talked about here before are more than capable of winning in '28 - but unfortunately to date no one is stepping up and AOC and Bernie are filling a void. Them getting big crowds at rallies makes for nice Trump opposition optics, but that's not sustainable.
I'm just spitballing here, but maybe that void is strategic. '28 is still a long way away, relatively speaking and a lot still could change. Maybe party leadership wants to see how the midterms go before rolling out the 'grown-up' presidential hopefuls.
i don't think so. i think the party is progressive and if it's not aoc it's a walz/harris or some other progressive. the young people are pushing out the old. There’s a reason Biden went crazy woke and the replacements were Harris walz. That is the party
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Once again, that lady is the poster girl for the “Hot/Crazy Matrix”.
I know some people here didn’t think she was all that hot. I beg to differ.
But, man, does she ruin it all when she starts talking, or emoting…or whipping out flammenwerfers.
He’s tried it once. And it wasn’t very successful.
Seems obvious that both parties would want to nominate candidates who will be competitive in the battleground states.
That’s why I thought the Dems would’ve been money ahead to cut bait with Harris and pave the way for either Shapiro or Whitmer to get the nomination.
You can continue saying that but it doesn't make it true.
And just because you don't like it, doesn't make it false.
AOC's chances of becoming Democrats' 2028 presidential nominee: Polls
"We need a Democratic Party that fights harder for us," the New York progressive said at a recent rally.
www.newsweek.com
From the article...
AOC, Kamala and Bernie best reflect the Dem's core values...that is a turdrific trifecta of progressivism right there.
That reflects name recognition, nothing more.
I could get behind him. There seems to be some distance between him and the more far-left part of the party. I kind of thought his marathon senate speech might be a first step toward testing the Democratic primary waters, but wasn't sure. He definitely seems like someone on both sides of the aisle can and do take seriously.
Bluntly, I think Republicans would get some traction attacking him as a black, single, east coast liberal. He'd have to have someone like Gretchen Whitmer or Andy Beshear as his VP. Or maybe one of those two could have the rolls reversed.
And as I mentioned above, I think some of the more moderate or 'serious' candidates aren't emerging yet. Guys like Andy Beshear and Josh Shapiro are showing up on podcasts and other types of shows, but they're not planting any presidential candidate flags just yet.
If things are still going the way they are now for the Republicans, I have to think post midterms is when we see things start to happen for more moderate Democrats.
For every person who makes a thoughtful, well reasoned and researched voting decision at least one (probably more) drop a straight ticket ballot or vote for a person for superficial reasons.
except it is true. unequivocally true. substitute aoc for walz, harris, stay at home pete, newsom, it's all the same. biden went woke. who was biden's replacement. the two wokest candidates out there in walz and harris. the left is a party of progressives now. and they hate you #dieboomers
I think that's true, but it's hard to say who will be in the Democratic primaries, let alone win them. 120 or so days into Obama's second term no one would have thought the '16 Republican primaries would have gone they way they did.
My hunch is that timing is everything here. Let's see what happens around or after the midterms.
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night
He's gotta be strong, and he's gotta be fast
And he's gotta be fresh from the fight.
Dennis Kucinich was always out front and one of the first people to announce a run for the presidency. He was fairly popular with stops on MSNBC shows and Bill Maher. Once things shook out, he very rarely had a legitimate chance at being the Democratic nominee. AOC is getting bigger crowds than Kucinich could have ever dreamed about, but I think their fate in terms of presidential politics is mostly the same.
She'll be a voice in the Democratic party - and that's not insignificant - but she's not a leader of the party. I'm honestly not even sure she actually wants to be. I think she'd be happy playing the role she is now for the next couple of decades.
And Harris was never the consensus pick and isn't really a leader in Democratic politics. She was the Mike Davis of Democratic Presidential hopefuls. When it was clear Biden wouldn't be able to run, Democrats shrugged, looked around and said, welp, she's here...might as go with her.
The variable here is how much of a f*#k up Trump is the rest of this term. If things keep going the way they are now or things get worse, Cory Booker would present as pretty damned pragmatic. Especially with the right VP.He's as pragmatic and "middle ground" as you were a conservative
You are just comparing him against the most impragmatic President in history. Maybe people would see it that way after four years of this drama.
But, liberals don't seem to get the message. You lost because of who you ran, not because Trump was better this time than in 2020. Booker is clearly a far-left liberal (in the same part of the graph as Liz Warren). If you think that is what is going to win, I don't know how to help you.
Just run a moderate, sensible candidate. Of course, I could say the same about the GOP. Both parties have let down this country and deserve to be broken up.
Yeah, Harris was a fait accompli once Biden gave it up.
Pragmatic left center Democrats rejected Bernie in 2016 and Bernie/Warren/Harris et. al in 2020. Biden screwed the pooch when he embraced the progressive left identity politics in the name of party unity.
When I mean leader I mean her politics. Far left progressive. Substitute her for Harris. Pete. Walz. Newsom. Doesn’t matter. This isn’t 2016. Progressives are the party
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