That's my beef exactly with him. He hasn't vision to see a crease and make that 1 step cut into it. I'd like to know the # of east west yards he ran compared to his actual yardage gained. He's beyond a doubt a dangerous kick return weapon. Still need more proof he can prove himself in the slot.
Word on Jaylin Lucas?
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Potentially the best kick returner in the country (best in the B1G) deserves a scholarship and NIL money
Depends entirely on the teams needs and wants and the value they place on same.
I see him as a straight-line speed guy, who isn’t going to have enough space running from scrimmage.
Folks aren’t going to kick it to him on kick offs much, if at all.
So he needs to be able to return punts and catch passes to help us.
On the right team sure (although in today's college football "deserves" has nothing to do with it)..., but not on this team for the reasons I already covered... If anybody "deserves" a scholarship it's Camper... Think he's going to see one?
I'd like to have us find a way to bring them both back...
The beauty of these types of arguments in today's world is that fans can literally put the money up to make what they believe about a player "deserving" a position happen...
It'll be interesting to see how it all turns out... We should have a pretty good feel for who's really staying and who's going a few weeks from now... Then we might lose a few again in the Spring (maybe 3 to 5 once the 3 deep roster becomes clearer)...
Why would you think that camper wouldn’t get a scholarship if he decided to come back here?
Both should get scholarships. The lines need some shoring up but with 18 (do you know where that # is from?) openings I think there's plenty of room to bring back two dynamic players.
He really should be a slot receiver - problem is he doesn't have very good hands.
He got a significant share of our NIL money last year. I think our money could be better spent on others this year. I wish him well wherever he ends up.
He got a significant share of our NIL money last year. I think our money could be better spent on others this year. I wish him well wherever he ends up.
The LAST thing that our staff needs to do is go down to his house and make promises again that set our offense up for failure and alienate other players.
Potentially…. Which means he isn’t and was paid last year on the “Come”…. I think the biggest believer in Lucas last year was Lucas. Performance just wasn’t there
Just as a KR he was great. 1st B1G kick return yards (13th NCAA), 1st B1G average kick return yards (14th NCAA), T-1st B1G kick return TD (T-6th NCAA). Take away his 100 yard TD return against Purdue and he still leads the B1G in kick return yards and is 9th in average.
You could literally put me back there waving for the Fair Catch and we'll start from the 25 every time...
Once he's been identified as a return threat ((which he has been)) they simply won't Kick to him...
The other (bigger) problem is that against the really good teams (the ones we really need a return against) their young Special Teams guys are just faster across the board than our young Special Teams guys which equals either a negligible return, or worse, a penalty that puts us starting out somewhere near the 10 yard line...
Bell wanted offensive players to lose weight and now we can avoid that as Bell didn't really know B1G.
The point of Lucas' (and having a plus-plus kick returner) is to not have to start at your own ~25 and have the ability to flip the field for our advantage.
This year the 2022 first-team All-America kick returner had the most returns in the B1G and tied for 7th most in FBS. Not all kick offs will be a touchbacks in college, returners will get enough opportunities if they have the ability to take it to the house.
I'm hoping special teams play improves with the new coaching staff and think that would allow for more opportunities for a top returner. Clean up the penalties and I bet those return yards increase.
Didn’t realize that I must say… but… I believe he got a huge chunk of our NIL…. Still say over spent for it. Were those stats 2023 or since his time at IU?
Well, we did have 73 kickoff return opportunities compared to Michigan's 25 in one more game. With that many KO's a game it is definitely important. However, I don't think he is worth top 3 NIL money. They aren't a dime a dozen, but I would think options are available. Montana State had a guy return a kickoff and punt in the FCS semifinal game last week. Scour that level at a cheaper price.
That's this past 2023 season. During his first team All-American 2022 season he was 1st B1G total kick return yards in B1G (14th in FBS), 1st in B1G average kick return yards (6th FBS), and was the only player in FBS to score two kick return touchdowns. Only 49 players in college football history have more kick return touchdowns than Lucas.
I don't know about NIL so if he'd eat up a chunk I can see not offering him a similar amount but maybe I'm too optimistic that there's an amount of money he'd like to come back for with the changes to the program. Penn State has offered so it wouldn't surprise me to see him go there if he was a fan of CTA. I'd like to think there's lots of opportunity on keeping an All-American.
Lucas wasn't a straight-line speedster so either his ankle was still bothering him or coaching was taking that part of the game away. I remember a run against Nebraska that broke ankles on defenders twice as he made moves to gain yardage. Lucas sure hasn't shown that enough as a runner but we don't know how much was injury or how much was coaching
Congrats to Jaylin! Thanks for being a Hoosier.
I saw he also had an offer from Ok. State. So I guess he had some to choose from.
I hate to lose him as a returner. Hopefully he can do even more at Louisville. I think in Cigs offense he'd have been good here, but they filled the spots now with good players.
Coach Cignetti said Miles Price is a good punt returner, and could do kicks too. I saw he didn't return a lot of punts this year but had a hell of an average. 19.6 avg ... On 10 returns. Looking forward to seeing him in action.
I saw he also had an offer from Ok. State. So I guess he had some to choose from.
I hate to lose him as a returner. Hopefully he can do even more at Louisville. I think in Cigs offense he'd have been good here, but they filled the spots now with good players.
Coach Cignetti said Miles Price is a good punt returner, and could do kicks too. I saw he didn't return a lot of punts this year but had a hell of an average. 19.6 avg ... On 10 returns. Looking forward to seeing him in action.
He's still in the portal, hasn't committed anywhere. He recently took a visit to Louisville but that's it.
As always 76-1...solid analysis....thank you.
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