If he's changed his mind on that, what's to say he won't change his mind again? Did some big scientific finding come out between now and then?
If you want to throw out the most extreme hypotheticals as a basis for your positions, that's your prerogative. I'm not going to play. I've chosen to support the practical, common sense measures that have been taken. Hard choices are just that -- hard choices. I'm just as uncomfortable and inconvenienced and frustrated -- and afraid -- as everyone else, but understand there are no simple answers. I wish there were.
Wear a mask everywhere I go Doc. Got a few from my Dr. kids have them too. I think everyone who can should but if they choose not to I keep my distance.
Plenty of restaurants in Indiana where that person who serves you the food is the owner!
Thanks, I wish you the best also.
There's no stopping the virus you just have to forge through it with EXTRA precautions.
Those mask don't stop the virus which is too small if you would learn science. All the cloth mask and others than N95 just make people feel safer but don't protect from people from the virus.
I see you are listening to the lying MSM as Trump said it was up to the doctors to find medication that would kill virus and inject people. It helps to go to the original source and listen to what is said instead of listening to a media with an agenda that crops speeches to make anyone they dislike to look bad. I don't trust media and and go to sources instead of having info fed to me. You have to work to get to the original sources but it is worth it instead of being misinformed.
Oh, ok. It's media spin.
They protect other people from getting the virus from you if you cough or sneeze. The virus rides with snot and spit. Since anyone can be an asymptomatic carrier, its important that everyone wear them. This isn't some MSM virtue signaling ploy, it's common sense.
Those who have “learned a lot of science” think it reduces transmission by trapping saliva droplets, which are one of the primary modes of transmission.
It's not like people have to cough in your face either. If someone coughs, the virus laden material can end up on surfaces that are then touched by someone else. I was involved in the brainstorming we did at my workplace to think of ways to reduce transmission risk. My contribution was to prop open every door in the facility (except washrooms of course) to keep people from using doorknobs. That has also served to keep air moving through some areas that would normally be pretty stagnant.
This is what bothers me the most. i avoid people like crazy but i go through at least a half dozen or more doors to get into my office. three doors just to take a piss. catching it from surfaces and the uncertainty re same is troubling.
I wear cheap knit gloves in my workplace for that reason. Easy to pull on and off and stuff in your pockets. Periodically put them in the microwave with a cup of water and nuke them for a couple minutes after the water starts boiling. The steam from the water permeates the fabric and then get heated way up. I don't know if there's any real benefit, but it makes sense and can't hurt. If nothing else it keeps me from passing on any critters that might be on my hands to the doorknobs.
Not to mention the cloth homemade masks get moist from your breath and not only become ineffective, but grow bacteria.
The government said that because they knew we didn't have enough masks and wanted to make sure what little were available ended up in hospitals and not in survival cellars. Just like they knew this want a 15 day thing. They know we're too stupid.
I have studied science and read many articles by scientist about this virus and a number say the mask doesn't work to stop the virus. My wife wears mask at work and shopping but has gotten sick anyway and my have the COV19 based on her symptoms. The people that do study this virus have different ideas about the mask and how it works. So many think it stops it but based on my wife I say it doesn't and if he has something else with these symptoms the it doesn't work very well.
For someone who has "studied science" you have a poor understanding of sample sizes.
People don't really want to hear reality. They'd rather follow like sheep. I mean, the shut down has worked so well in New York and New Jersey, hasn't it?
Sorry you are wrong but only listen to one side not both sides like I do. I guess you don't understand the concept of an example.
Based on all of your previous commentary on this subject, my guess is that you exclusively watch Fox News, and are inclined to believe whatever Trump says. Everyone I have encountered who subscribes to the narrative that the President is being persecuted by the media has no intention of listening to any alternative thinking. Those partisan blinders are hard to remove.
You can tell somebody to do anything and I have no problem with it. When you order them to do something subject to fine or incarceration I could, depending on the circumstances, have a big problem with it.Are you okay with infringing on people's civil liberties when you tell them to wash their hands?
Of course, but I don't think you can expect to see doors retrofitted. I've mentioned that in my workplace we've just propped open all the doors in the facility. I suppose it's possible the fire marshal might find some technical violation, but fvck 'em.
Yeah my office bldg is a low-slung looking fall out shelter. The owners won’t spend a penny on it.
"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue..." Truest thing he ever said.
I don't watch TV and do my research on the internet. I do have libertarian/conservative lean and don't hide from it. I disagree with Trump on several issues IE I don't think this virus rises to the level of war for our gov't to deal with. Learn to independently research and you would be surprised with what you find.
One would almost think your position is as much political as it is safety.
That's a depressing thought when singing hymns is dangerous.
