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In scathing Gallup poll Biden with least popular president in 70 YEARS Uggghhh

I think any objective, informed person knows he’s pathetic. So this goes to how many progressives are really out there - at least in part. Most of my friends are libs and think he is God awful. The party has gone way left. Maybe a significant part of our pop has too
What is the alternative? 4 years of trump. Hell no. I do not want to go back to the 40s and 5os. What does he stand for, more racism Proud Boys and Oathkeepers? The kkk marching in the streets. More subsidies for the wealthy. They call it welfare for the poor. They want to make him a dictator, immune from laws. With the supreme court in his pocket, it will be the end of Democracy as we know it.
 
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You're wrong, no matter how many times you say it.

I can't open your link. It's behind a paywall. Hopefully you can open mine.


A CANDIDATE MORE PROGRESSIVE THAN MOST. The progressive wing of the Democratic Party, exemplified by Senators Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren during the presidential primaries, has shifted the Overton Window on progressive policies from health care reform to racial, economic, and environmental justice. That’s in part why Joe Biden is running on the most progressive platform of any major-party nominee in recent history.

i could post a thousand articles citing biden's progressive agenda.
 
you're wrong no matter how many times you say it. oh how convenient you can't open the link. there are only a thousand articles on biden's progressive agenda. how many more do you want?


"Despite embracing an agenda that is further to the left than that of any Democratic nominee in decades, he’s avoided the specific policy proposals and catchphrases that Republicans find easiest to attack. As a result, he appears more centrist than he actually is. In Biden, Democrats have a nominee who is promising FDR-style change, yet is avoiding the political backlash that an ambitious progressive agenda often brings." How about this from the atlantic

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Read my piece from the Post.

Your messaging has radically changed over the last couple of years. I'm thinking you might be a victim of the algorithms.
 
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tort reform son. you vote dem unless they are so unseemly you have no other choice. and i'd vote for clinton and obama in a heartbeat. biden is not clinton and obama. he's aoc
Well, I don't vote dem all the time, and Biden isn't AOC. You're going nutso. I can't tell if you're just shitposting (that's how that actually works) or serious, but either way, it's insane.

Biden is a washed up demented old man. But he is not a washed up demented old socialist.
 
Read my piece from the Post.

Your messaging has radically changed over the last couple of years. I'm thinking you might be a victim of the algorithms.
yes the washington post, the atlantic, and the boston globe lmao. did you not notice in your article the concerted effort to try to allege that biden isn't a progressive? why do you think that might be? because he is a progressive. i'm beginning to think you have tds so bad you're blinded.
 
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Well, I don't vote dem all the time, and Biden isn't AOC. You're going nutso. I can't tell if you're just shitposting (that's how that actually works) or serious, but either way, it's insane.

Biden is a washed up demented old man. But he is not a washed up demented old socialist.
are you ignoring the articles and data?. that's about as much shitposting as it gets. your words? please. the ultimate in willful ignorance. i set forth every policy issue that's left. if you want to be ignorant go for it.
 
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Well, I don't vote dem all the time, and Biden isn't AOC. You're going nutso. I can't tell if you're just shitposting (that's how that actually works) or serious, but either way, it's insane.

Biden is a washed up demented old man. But he is not a washed up demented old socialist.
"Despite embracing an agenda that is further to the left than that of any Democratic nominee in decades, he’s avoided the specific policy proposals and catchphrases that Republicans find easiest to attack. As a result, he appears more centrist than he actually is. In Biden, Democrats have a nominee who is promising FDR-style change, yet is avoiding the political backlash that an ambitious progressive agenda often brings." How about this from the atlantic
 
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I understand why you need to believe all that.
i understand why you need progressives. easier to admit that than ignore his 2020 agenda. that just makes you disingenuous . hell we even talked about his attempt to pivot at his first state of the union. do you remember that? away from his progressive agenda?
 

A CANDIDATE MORE PROGRESSIVE THAN MOST. The progressive wing of the Democratic Party, exemplified by Senators Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren during the presidential primaries, has shifted the Overton Window on progressive policies from health care reform to racial, economic, and environmental justice. That’s in part why Joe Biden is running on the most progressive platform of any major-party nominee in recent history.

i could post a thousand articles citing biden's progressive agenda.
It helps black and brown people, which MAGA hates. People say they are not racist but anything that helps POC , show their true colors.
 
Anytime POC has made advancements in this country, there always has been a huge white backlash. White folks are quick to say . They are not racist and are threatened if you point this out. The truth hurts.
 
You do you, buddy.

"President Biden’s pivot to the center at his State of the Union address on Tuesday was welcome news for centrist Democrats worried the party’s leftward tilt was hurting its appeal with voters."

don't be disingenuous. if that's you doing you. it's not a good look
 
What is the alternative? 4 years of trump. Hell no. I do not want to go back to the 40s and 5os. What does he stand for, more racism Proud Boys and Oathkeepers? The kkk marching in the streets. More subsidies for the wealthy. They call it welfare for the poor. They want to make him a dictator, immune from laws. With the supreme court in his pocket, it will be the end of Democracy as we know it.
Keep buying that tinfoil. Always helps Alcoa stock. Kudos.
 
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"President Biden’s pivot to the center at his State of the Union address on Tuesday was welcome news for centrist Democrats worried the party’s leftward tilt was hurting its appeal with voters."

don't be disingenuous. if that's you doing you. it's not a good look
I never said he was a centrist. I said he's a mainstream Democrat. He always has been. He's always positioned himself right in the middle of the party.

Like I said, I get why you need to believe he's some leftist crusader. Your upcoming vote for Trump won't be palatable otherwise.
 
My god. How can a human be that out of touch. And if that’s real “allowed”? Why on earth would a bracket not be allowed two years ago? I hope that’s fake. That is frightening for someone who will likely be president in the next five years
I don't think she'll ever be president. After Trump wins this fall, the party will put her out to pasture.
 
I never said he was a centrist. I said he's a mainstream Democrat. He always has been. He's always positioned himself right in the middle of the party.

Like I said, I get why you need to believe he's some leftist crusader. Your upcoming vote for Trump won't be palatable otherwise.
Not true at all re trump. Has zero to do with trump. So let’s do this a different way. You agree he is not a centrist. He is now in the middle of a party that has moved left and is led by progressives. So he’s squarely a progressive? At least on domestic matters
 
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She never disappoints...Listening to a loop of her would make me dye my hair purple and put on a dress. No wonder there are so many freaks.
That’s Biden’s choice. But he is no different than the other Dems before 🤪
 
Not true at all re trump. Has zero to do with trump. So let’s do this a different way. You agree he is not a centrist. He is now in the middle of a party that has moved left and is led by progressives. So he’s squarely a progressive? At least on domestic matters
I do think the party is more progressive than ever, but I don't think Biden has become the extremist you portray him as. I think he's shifted left along with the party, but he's not where the actual activists want him to be.
 
I do think the party is more progressive than ever, but I don't think Biden has become the extremist you portray him as. I think he's shifted left along with the party, but he's not where the actual activists want him to be.
I think he’s exceptionally radical on a number of fronts. But we can leave that.

So the party is more progressive than ever and he has shifted left along with the party. Concur
 
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I do think the party is more progressive than ever, but I don't think Biden has become the extremist you portray him as. I think he's shifted left along with the party, but he's not where the actual activists want him to be.
For the activists, leftism is not a destination, it’s a process. No matter where the Democrats reside, the activists keep pushing further. In several respects we are now left of many of the leftist democracies. Biden follows the same path because he seeks approval and votes. There is no place to simply be.
 
I never said he was a centrist. I said he's a mainstream Democrat. He always has been. He's always positioned himself right in the middle of the party.

Like I said, I get why you need to believe he's some leftist crusader. Your upcoming vote for Trump won't be palatable otherwise.
And you are wrong on palatable and trump. If the pubs win house/senate I couldn’t care less if trump loses and Biden is president. All I care about is blocking a progressive agenda - whatever form that may take
 
For the activists, leftism is not a destination, it’s a process. No matter where the Democrats reside, the activists keep pushing further. In several respects we are now left of many of the leftist democracies. Biden follows the same path because he seeks approval and votes. There is no place to simply be.
I encourage you to read my post in this thread where I compare Biden’s agenda to Carter, Clinton, and Obama. It’s excellent and important that it not be missed
 
Meh. He's not really opening the border, and the social safety net, as well as most of the "green agenda" is not really hardcore progressive, but mainstream left.

He might seem progressive to you because of the direction from which you are looking at him, but from the point of view of a true progressive, he's JAFD - Just Another F*ckin' Democrat.
When did running multi trillion dollar deficits become mainstream for Democrats? It wasn’t that way when Clinton and Obama were Presidents.
 
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Not true at all re trump. Has zero to do with trump. So let’s do this a different way. You agree he is not a centrist. He is now in the middle of a party that has moved left and is led by progressives. So he’s squarely a progressive? At least on domestic matters
I think he’s exceptionally radical on a number of fronts. But we can leave that.

So the party is more progressive than ever and he has shifted left along with the party. Concur
While we bemoan the Dems, let's not forget about a Republican party that has continually shifted right but also to a place of willful indifference to governing.

There is no middle anymore. There's the lede.
 
While we bemoan the Dems, let's not forget about a Republican party that has continually shifted right but also to a place of willful indifference to governing.

There is no middle anymore. There's the lede.
I don’t think there’s an equivalent radical policy implementation comparison save abortion. Rhetoric sure. Culture bs sure. But I joke. The tranny shit is fun to tease but I really don’t care. I care about paying for cradle to grave benefits, punitive taxation, law enforcement, and the border. The right is devoid of as many harmful policies as evidenced by a comparison of data between administrations
 
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I never said he was a centrist. I said he's a mainstream Democrat. He always has been. He's always positioned himself right in the middle of the party.

Like I said, I get why you need to believe he's some leftist crusader. Your upcoming vote for Trump won't be palatable otherwise.
A mainstream Democrat doesn’t produce a race based budget proposal like the one Biden did yesterday. At least, I would HOPE that’s not mainstream Democrat these days.

One I believe you yourself said he was an idiot for releasing.

Come on, man. Murt is right. The proof is in the pudding.
 
I don’t think there’s an equivalent radical policy implementation comparison save abortion. Rhetoric sure. Culture bs sure. But I joke. The tranny shit is fun to tease but I really don’t care. I care about paying for cradle to grave benefits, punitive taxation, law enforcement, and the border. The right is devoid of as many harmful policies as evidenced by a comparison of data between administrations
I know where you're coming from but the party you have to choose is just as batshit insane as the one you won't. And their indifference to governing is concerning b/c that's their job. They can't even get a caucus together.

Somebody needs to capture the middle. If the Republicans could drop abortion and present a plan regarding immigration that isn't just "close the border forever" they could probably do so. But that is unlikely based on the past few years.
 
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I know where you're coming from but the party you have to choose is just as batshit insane as the one you won't. And their indifference to governing is concerning b/c that's their job. They can't even get a caucus together.

Somebody needs to capture the middle. If the Republicans could drop abortion and present a plan regarding immigration that isn't just "close the border forever" they could probably do so. But that is unlikely based on the past few years.
Again one stands poised to implement a sweeping agenda that fundamentally changes america. You have to go back to fdr for a comparison. The other will just bicker amongst themselves and get little done. The less gov gets done the better.

As I said I don’t care if trump wins or loses. All I care about is blocking the progressive agenda.
 
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A mainstream Democrat doesn’t produce a race based budget proposal like the one Biden did yesterday. At least, I would HOPE that’s not mainstream Democrat these days.

One I believe you yourself said he was an idiot for releasing.

Come on, man. Murt is right. The proof is in the pudding.
Like dealing with woodpeckers.
 
Again one stands poised to implement a sweeping agenda that fundamentally changes america. You have to go back to fdr for a comparison. The other will just bicker amongst themselves and get little done. The less gov gets done the better.

As I said I don’t care if trump wins or loses. All I care about is blocking the progressive agenda.
And, as you feel about Trump, I don't think there's any way the squad gets their way. In the end, little gets done either way regardless of who wins.
 
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And, as you feel about Trump, I don't think there's any way the squad gets their way. In the end, little gets done either way regardless of who wins.
Biden is the squad on social agenda spending ev push border etc. but for manchin what would prices look like. We already have almost ten million slide into the country. People don’t want EVs. Biden doesn’t care. On and on. It’s too dangerous to risk. The margins are too close. This country would be fckd with an all Dem gov. The country would look like every ruined blue city. Dems are run by social workers.

And mark my words the economy will be slow by fall. Gas will be high all summer. I do a ton with packaging companies. They are slowing down big time
 
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Sure they do. But they also want a nationwide charging network.


That won’t happen. Divided gov for the win.

hyperbole. This summer should be interesting though. The Dem convention in Chicago should give out free popcorn.
The ev market is imploding. Tesla cutting like crazy. Hertz.

Not hyperbolic in the least. The same people Harris and the squad lauded run these failing blue cities. They promote the same agenda as Biden when he took office. Lockstep progressives
 
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