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Discussion in 'TheHoosier.com IU Hoop Forum' started by fkfootball, Dec 7, 2019.
Still can’t shoot. Defense comes and goes. Effort comes and goes.
Next season is going to be worse with no more Crean recruits to rely on for offense.
I have not seen much of anything from Miller in two years to get excited about. Really wondering if he is not over his head
As bad as Crean was he never lost like this!!!!!!!
My guess is glass thinks everything is moving ahead on schedule. Just as planned.
Even Knight had a few like this. Crean had plenty. One point trend proclamations tend to come back to bite you in the rear.
You have a really, really bad memory.
The overreaction crowd out in full force
This exact problem has been going on a lot longer then 3 years lol.
No problem with IU has been going on longer than effort
I NEVER remember being down 30 to a sub par big ten team from creans 3rd year on...you refresh MY memory. Maybe it happened but I sure as hell can’t remember it
Whebn Crean influence gone, IU will be better.
If IU goes 3-15 this year then you can compare.
I agree. Miller’s problem is that he’s 0-2 in making the tourney and his winning percentage isn’t much above .500. He should be fired if he misses the tourney again this year...but it sounds like he won’t be.
And the reason he won’t be is the same reason we seem to be stuck in mediocrity: we accept it.
So you thought Crean handed off a strong culture of fundamentally strong basketball then? Thought this was a plug and play sitch? Lol
Nope, largely because he was similarly kept too long.
As I said elsewhere, Tom Allen only needed 3 years to take our moribund football program to a bowl game, best record since ‘93, etc.
Face it, Archie hasn’t done very well yet. There simply isn’t any getting around that fact. He may still, I don’t know. But when you look at what Holtmann is doing at OSU, Mack at Louisville, etal, it becomes really hard to argue that he just needs more and more time. Why haven’t they??
People said the same about Crean and they were wrong then too.
Winning programs don’t accept the kind of mediocrity that has been lingering around here for...well, too long.
Crean should have been fired after year three
I don’t totally disagree but let’s make sure year 3 is a dud before all making all these bold proclamations. Lol
100% but fred seems to stubborn to see his errors. It won't be any different this time. I guarantee if we miss the tourney this year Archie is back still. Fred talks big talk on championships but it's all a smoke show
I might agree if he misses the tournament. It is a pretty big leap to go from one clunker to a really bad year. We will see. Any repeat of last year would convince me. I refuse to go there after one crap down their leg in the first road game.
I remember Knight losing by about 50 at Minnesota. I think he was pretty good!
That was stupid the first time you said it and it isn't any less stupid now. LOL!
Hondo...is that you?
You used the LOL heavy on other posts...
Nope. Isn't this the second time you've asked this stupid question? I don't have any idea who Hondo is, but I do know he's not a member of the Negative Nancy Whine and Troll Club.
Nope...he’s a member where you hold an active card...
The Archie Apologists and Acceptance of Average Association...
Your name suggests you have some self awareness. Your post suggests you don't have a clue.
Come on man, there are 2 "Crean influence" players left. 3 if you count the recruited by Crean but never coached by Crean, Durham. And without one of those 3 we do not win that FSU game.
20 points ?!?
Yes, and Stevens offered at that time
Yeah but if you recall he pulled the starters early in the game and the bench played most of that game against a good Minnesota team. This Wisconsin team is not good. But hey we will see Tuesday I guess.
Ya, bad teams never win at home. But keep on shoveling the shit. Sorry in advance if IU wins on Tuesday!