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Would someone explain the science behind this?

Hey, Marv lobbed the first insult. Not tough, just willing to defend myself.
I'm not sure Marv insulted you. He was making a point about how silly the "patriots" of today look in their fight...a stance that does not hold up well against pre-smallpox patriots.

You didn't detect the nuance, and shot off a stupid internet tough guy response.
 
I'm not sure Marv insulted you. He was making a point about how silly the "patriots" of today look in their fight...a stance that does not hold up well against pre-smallpox patriots.

You didn't detect the nuance, and shot off a stupid internet tough guy response.
Thanks for weighing in.
 
So I agree with you. Continue the campaign to get as many vaccinated ages as possible. But we also need to address how little it takes to overwhelm the system. And we need to be mindful of stats and tamp down the endless fear porn. It's not healthy
Not only do we have endless fear porn, but President Biden is deliberately ginning up national anger over vax status. It works. People here believe they can’t live a normal life with COVID because that is what Biden and the idiot wing of our political leadership tells them. If others aren’t vaccinated they are pissed about that. We will never get to 100% vaxxwd so deal with it. 80% is pretty good and we are almost there.

Covid is not small pox. If you are vaxed, covid is a head cold. Yet idiots from Howard Stern to Joe Biden use covid to tear us apart. Biden in the White House is infinitely more dangerous than Covid in my neighbors house.
 
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In 2016, there were 62 deaths for 100,000 due to falls.
07Sept2021, there were 1.92 US deaths per 100,000 due to Covid.

Story question, How many fall deaths were due to Covid (i.e. worrying about Covid or reading a MSM article about Covid)?
 
Not only do we have endless fear porn, but President Biden is deliberately ginning up national anger over vax status. It works. People here believe they can’t live a normal life with COVID because that is what Biden and the idiot wing of our political leadership tells them. If others aren’t vaccinated they are pissed about that. We will never get to 100% vaxxwd so deal with it. 80% is pretty good and we are almost there.

Covid is not small pox. If you are vaxed, covid is a head cold. Yet idiots from Howard Stern to Joe Biden use covid to tear us apart. Biden in the White House is infinitely more dangerous than Covid in my neighbors house.
hardly the unifier. if i were 85 i'd be worried. the media needs to stop with the 200% increase and one off stories of a 30 year old when the stats are revealing. and we need to figure out how to live with it better
 
Covid is not small pox. If you are vaxed, covid is a head cold.
What does this mean, if you were vaxxed Smallpox was no problem. Period, full stop. Yet we did not contend ourselves with, "I am safe, tough luck for everyone else".

You mentioned Pfizer's campaign contributions. You repeatedly suggest government is for purchase and experts don't mean a thing. In your mind, why does this not extend to General Electric (major campaign contributor and maker of nuclear power) and the nuclear engineers? What sets them apart from the Pfizer's of the world?
 
hardly the unifier. if i were 85 i'd be worried. the media needs to stop with the 200% increase and one off stories of a 30 year old when the stats are revealing. and we need to figure out how to live with it better
There is no political benefit from living with it better. Biden has FUBARED everything he has touched since he took office. The only place he can go is to blame all of his failures on those who are not vaxed.
 
What does this mean, if you were vaxxed Smallpox was no problem. Period, full stop. Yet we did not contend ourselves with, "I am safe, tough luck for everyone else".

You mentioned Pfizer's campaign contributions. You repeatedly suggest government is for purchase and experts don't mean a thing. In your mind, why does this not extend to General Electric (major campaign contributor and maker of nuclear power) and the nuclear engineers? What sets them apart from the Pfizer's of the world?
Excellent question. I think you should start a thread about it.
 
There is no political benefit from living with it better. Biden has FUBARED everything he has touched since he took office. The only place he can go is to blame all of his failures on those who are not vaxed.
This would be your take on any Democrat in the White House.
 
Hey, Marv lobbed the first insult. Not tough, just willing to defend myself.
Hillz you know by now the dems throw their shit and we’re supposed to shut up and accept it.

Being Dem gives them the right. I wonder if they wear masks while posting.
 
No, you don't. You will continue to be the miserable asshole you are...at least as far as you project on here.
It’s not that hard Bulk. We spent four years watching you guys throw hate at the Trump administration. They could do nothing right.

We now have a brain dead old democrat in charge and his inept administration, we need to keep reminding you. :)

I mean look what he did for us right before the 20 year anniversary of 9-11. He reminded the world that he’s a weak incompetent old man and embarrassed America. He did it without any mean tweets though.
 
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It’s not that hard Bulk. We spent four years watching you guys throw hate at the Trump administration. They could do nothing right.
Why do you take it so personally that posters here threw hate at Trump? Why do you care?

The hate thrown at Trump, at least from me, was not aimed at the GOP as a whole. Hell, many Republicans threw more hate at Trump than anyone here ever did...that is until Trump gave them the stink eye, and they reversed course, flew to Florida, and bent the knee. I've voted for Republicans all up and down the ballot for years, so I have no real problem with the GOP...except for the branch that has allowed Trump, a total transactional asshat, to hijack a large portion of the party, and given dumbshits like Gaetz, MTG, and Boebert a platform. Just wait until he decides to run in 2024.
Meanwhile, conservatives on here label the entire Democratic party, and libs as a whole, as being unpatriotic, evil, and not caring about this country, all while minimizing the deplorable actions of the Trump mob on 1/6.
I hope it was me that got the Lucy thread axed last night. His title and OP were referencing 9/11 and Dems hugging Muslims. I reported it, and in my report, I said if allowed to stand, the mods could f*** off. I then posted in the thread ( I was the first post after the OP) and told Lucy to F*** off. I then went to bed, and when I looked this morning, the thread was gone, and I had a warning to treat 9/11 with respect...which I assume was the same post everyone in that thread received from the mods. Bottom line, even though the warning aimed at me was bullshit, I'll take it if I helped blow that thread up, and Lucy should be ashamed, if not banned.
Here's the thing. In your opinion, the hate thrown at Trump was detestable, and you have expressed several times that it was bad. If it was so bad, and you know it's bad, why are you intent on doing the exact same thing? Except you are motivated by an entirely different factor, with the knowledge that what you are doing has been judged, by you, as being wrong.
Bottom line: I am more liberal/Democrat than conservative/Republican. I think Trump is a selfish charlatan who has fooled a lot of people, and browbeat a bunch more. I love this country just as much as you, or any of the other patriots on this board.
 
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Why do you take it so personally that posters here threw hate at Trump? Why do you care?

The hate thrown at Trump, at least from me, was not aimed at the GOP as a whole. Hell, many Republicans threw more hate at Trump than anyone here ever did...that is until Trump gave them the stink eye, and they reversed course, flew to Florida, and bent the knee. I've voted for Republicans all up and down the ballot for years, so I have no real problem with the GOP...except for the branch that has allowed Trump, a total transactional asshat, to hijack a large portion of the party, and given dumbshits like Gaetz, MTG, and Boebert a platform. Just wait until he decides to run in 2024.
Meanwhile, conservatives on here label the entire Democratic party, and libs as a whole, as being unpatriotic, evil, and not caring about this country, all while minimizing the deplorable actions of the Trump mob on 1/6.
I hope it was me that got the Lucy thread axed last night. His title and OP were referencing 9/11 and Dems hugging Muslims. I reported it, and in my report, I said if allowed to stand, the mods could f*** off. I then posted in the thread ( I was the first post after the OP) and told Lucy to F*** off. I then went to bed, and when I looked this morning, the thread was gone, and I had a warning to treat 9/11 with respect...which I assume was the same post everyone in that thread received from the mods. Bottom line, even though the warning aimed at me was bullshit, I'll take it if I helped blow that thread up, and Lucy should be ashamed, if not banned.
Here's the thing. In your opinion, the hate thrown at Trump was detestable, and you have expressed several times that it was bad. If it was so bad, and you know it's bad, why are you intent on doing the exact same thing? Except you are motivated by an entirely different factor, with the knowledge that what you are doing has been judged, by you, as being wrong.
Bottom line: I am more liberal/Democrat than conservative/Republican. I think Trump is a selfish charlatan who has fooled a lot of people, and browbeat a bunch more. I love this country just as much as you, or any of the other patriots on this board.
You’re entitled to that opinion. With all his warts, Trump was better than Hillary and it’s not close when comparing what we have now. That’s my opinion.

I don’t call you racist, phobe, rube or hillbilly for your opinion about Biden.

That same consideration hasn’t been given by democrats for almost 5 years now. So yea, that pisses me off.
 
So asking if your family opposed smallpox and polio vaccinations is an insult? Would asking if they oppose COVID vaccine be an insult?
I assumed you were inferring that I was the progeny of a bunch of "antivaxxing" "rubes", to use WC vernacular. If I attibuted a tone to your post which you didn't intend, then I apologize for my reaction to it.
 
I assumed you were inferring that I was the progeny of a bunch of "antivaxxing" "rubes", to use WC vernacular. If I attibuted a tone to your post which you didn't intend, then I apologize for my reaction to it.
I can see why you think that. It is on me. I was sarcastically suggesting the opposite, your kin probably had those vaccines so what has changed. Why are smallpox, polio, MMR, and tetanus good vaccines and COVID a bad vaccine. Our ancestors saw a value in those other vaccines, it is how we got to herd immunity. And testing on smallpox vaccine sucked, COVID is far better tested.

There were people who did not want those vaccines but not nearly at the rate today.
 
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I assumed you were inferring that I was the progeny of a bunch of "antivaxxing" "rubes", to use WC vernacular. If I attibuted a tone to your post which you didn't intend, then I apologize for my reaction to it.
They mean exactly what they’re inferring. As you I’ve been vaccinated, going to get booster, wear masks where required and followed federal and state recommendations and mandates in my business.

I have friends, family and clients that don’t want the vaccine based on what they have observed and researched. I try to convince them otherwise. They aren’t uneducated rubes and hillbillies and I take offense to the insults on here. My son, his wife and many of their young educated friends are struggling with getting vaccinated.
 
You’re entitled to that opinion. With all his warts, Trump was better than Hillary and it’s not close when comparing what we have now. That’s my opinion.

I don’t call you racist, phobe, rube or hillbilly for your opinion about Biden.

That same consideration hasn’t been given by democrats for almost 5 years now. So yea, that pisses me off.
Thank you for addressing exactly ZERO of my points.
Have a good day.
 
I can see why you think that. It is on me. I was sarcastically suggesting the opposite, your kin probably had those vaccines so what has changed. Why are smallpox, polio, MMR, and tetanus good vaccines and COVID a bad vaccine. Our ancestors saw a value in those other vaccines, it is how we got to herd immunity. And testing on smallpox vaccine sucked, COVID is far better tested.

There were people who did not want those vaccines but not nearly at the rate today.
Small pox and polio and tetanus had been killing people for centuries. There are well-known, highly identifiable symptoms associated with each of those, and the vaccines were seen as medical miracles. The opposition back then wasn't as widespread, but it existed. Thanks, illiteracy!

Covid 19 is less than two years old and people are still trying to figure out what it is, and what it does. It is true that some people die from it. It is also true that the vast majority of people survive it. It is a rational position to be skeptical of a 10 month-old vaccine therapy developed out of whole cloth for a virus which has only affected humans for 20 months. Especially when the likelihood of dying from it is so low for a broad range of people.

The opposition gets broadcast to my pocket, minute by minute, right along with the voices of those who would call me a selfish idiot if I don't get vaxxed. Thanks, internet.
 
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The opposition gets broadcast to my pocket, minute by minute, right along with the voices of those who would call me a selfish idiot if I don't get vaxxed.
If you were not vaccinated, calling you names for that is wrong. I view it like Noodle, as long as he isn't here trying to convert us to Boilers his own bad personal decision is his. But if he starts boasting often about some made up Boiler superiority then there is an issue.
 
Well 80 million of us have had it with you woke assholes. There now, I feel better too.
If vaccinated = woke, then apparently I'm woke.

I'm still trying to identify your 80 million figure. Where does that come from?
 
If vaccinated = woke, then apparently I'm woke.

I'm still trying to identify your 80 million figure. Where does that come from?
Read closer. I didn’t say 80 milllion of us not vaccinated. I am vaccinated myself. I said 80 million of us are sick of you woke assholes.
 
So then...why are you so worried?
"Hey look, I am vaccinated and I want you to be as confident in MY safety as I am. Please go get vaccinated you Pube, POS that will eventually kill someone and I might get infected anyway, although I am vaccinated and better than you".

That's pretty much my take on it. I was once close to getting jabbed, but then the belittling and shaming started rolling. We have more cases now than we did before there were any vax at all.
I fall well within the, rip off the band aid, group. Due to the paranoid Panaphobics, this is turning into another 20 year war when it could be over in a few months. But it seems they don't want the progress that can be attained if everyone has natural immunity and we don't live in fear any longer.
 
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"Hey look, I am vaccinated and I want you to be as confident in MY safety as I am. Please go get vaccinated you Pube, POS that will eventually kill someone and I might get infected anyway, although I am vaccinated and better than you".

That's pretty much my take on it. I was once close to getting jabbed, but then the belittling and shaming started rolling. We have more cases now than we did before there were any vax at all.
I fall well within the, rip off the band aid, group. Due to the paranoid Panaphobics, this is turning into another 20 year war when it could be over in a few months. But it seems they don't want the progress that can be attained if everyone has natural immunity and we don't live in fear any longer.
So you’re not getting vaxed out of spite?
 
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