Only two or three (if DD goes to NBA) positions available... It's going to be interesting none-the-less... GO Hoosiers!!!
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I could see Phinesee and or Henry as the next two commits. Hopefully somehow we can get Romeo as well and that would be a very good class. Also if Davis leaves then we could try to get a 5th year transfer big man.Only two or three (if DD goes to NBA) positions available... It's going to be interesting none-the-less... GO Hoosiers!!!
That would be great but I don't think we have a great chance at Garland. I know it is not always accurate but the crystal ball has Duke and Vanderbilt was warmer and IU and UK as warm for Garland. I think we have a descent chance at Romeo if he wants to stay close to home but not deal with the UL mess.It might be hoping for too much, but a Romeo / Garland would be a coup. And IMHO I believe we've got a better chance than people think.
DD to the NBA? I think he will have a good year but that is a stretch.Only two or three (if DD goes to NBA) positions available... It's going to be interesting none-the-less... GO Hoosiers!!!
That would be great but I don't think we have a great chance at Garland. I know it is not always accurate but the crystal ball has Duke and Vanderbilt was warmer and IU and UK as warm for Garland. I think we have a descent chance at Romeo if he wants to stay close to home but not deal with the UL mess.
I thought I read somewhere that Garland and Jones wouldn't mind going to the same school.Is Duke interested? Yes - but they're more interested in Tre Jones. And their interest in Romeo has receded; IMHO they're looking more and more at Reddish.
UK is locked in on Quickley (which will likely net them Williamson as well). And I got the feeling that Romeo's time with Calipari wasn't the best thing for either; just not the right fit.
When it's all said and done, IU might end up with two great players just because other programs value certain players more.
Over half of Crean's recruits were well below Archie's first 3. Crean landed more 0 and 3 stars than he did 4 and 5 stars combined. That was the problem. I agree we need elite players as well but I'm encouraged by not seeing the random 0 star recruit commit out of nowhere. I doubt we see that moving forward.I would hope the next 2 commits are elite talent. No offense to Archies first 3 commits but the IU HC should be able to land guys like that in his sleep. Crean was essentially a dead man walking when he landed Justin Smith and Clifton Moore and both are on the same level as Archies first 3 guys.
I would hope the next 2 commits are elite talent. No offense to Archies first 3 commits but the IU HC should be able to land guys like that in his sleep. Crean was essentially a dead man walking when he landed Justin Smith and Clifton Moore and both are on the same level as Archies first 3 guys.
Yeah, having a team of 4 stars that stay 4 years would really suck.....
Crean had a lot of those guys in Creek, Hulls, Watford, VJ3, Oladipo, Elston, Sheehey, etc. He didn't win jack until 5 stars Cody and Yogi came along.
Spot onSpeaking generally, I think the staff has done a great job in a short period of time. The recruiting late start could have potentially got away the staff, but it didn't. I'd take Langford and/or Garland all day long. But if they go elsewhere, I won't consider that a failure. It was a late start with a lot of ground to make up.
Spot on
Either Langford or Garland would be great. Both would be awesome, but having very good 4 star players who are 3-4 year players is a good way to start building a team. I'm stoked about where he has us as far as personnel. Another very good big 6'9" or bigger would be great, but if we miss out on 5-star talent I won't be dissuaded. Give him time to show the product and build a consistent and very competitive team, and those will start coming. But nothing wrong with starting a little early...I would hope the next 2 commits are elite talent. No offense to Archies first 3 commits but the IU HC should be able to land guys like that in his sleep. Crean was essentially a dead man walking when he landed Justin Smith and Clifton Moore and both are on the same level as Archies first 3 guys.
Crean also was about as bad of an in game coach that you'll find anywhere. Guy was a complete clown. Let's put that nightmare behind us.Crean had a lot of those guys in Creek, Hulls, Watford, VJ3, Oladipo, Elston, Sheehey, etc. He didn't win jack until 5 stars Cody and Yogi came along.
I could see Phinesee and or Henry as the next two commits. Hopefully somehow we can get Romeo as well and that would be a very good class. Also if Davis leaves then we could try to get a 5th year transfer big man.
Either Langford or Garland would be great. Both would be awesome, but having very good 4 star players who are 3-4 year players is a good way to start building a team. I'm stoked about where he has us as far as personnel. Another very good big 6'9" or bigger would be great, but if we miss out on 5-star talent I won't be dissuaded. Give him time to show the product and build a consistent and very competitive team, and those will start coming. But nothing wrong with starting a little early...
Crean was known in some quarters (not mine) for "player development".
IMHO, we're really gonna see player development under Archie - esp with Eddie and Clif on the staff. Has anyone seen the pics of DeRon? The change in his body? Couple that with the way I know Schilling can teach fundamentals and technique and I really feel this staff will be able to develop kids better than their predecessors.
Having said that, I still wouldn't be a bit surprised if CAM pulls in both Garland and Romeo. What CAM is putting together is respected and is easy to sell. Only thing to be concerned about is short amount of time to build relationships with this years top kids.
I thought Tom Crean was a genuinely good guy.... with that being said, it is also my opinion with 10 games remaining last season, a chimpanzee using only sign language should have been able to take that group and win one game in the NCAA tournament...
I thought Tom Crean was a genuinely good guy....
I'm not so sure on the "good guy" thing. The guy never once took personal responsibility for anything and always blamed others. Heck, after he got fired he ripped Glass for not "supporting him enough".....which is beyond absurd..
Also opposing coaches were not fans.If ever calling a basketball coach a "good guy" could be considered an oxymoron, Crean was it.
Did he do some meaningful charity work towards others? Yes.
But as Vegas pointed out, when it came to his shortcomings in basketball he was always pointing the finger elsewhere. And the Creaning of kids is not done by a "genuinely good guy".
Also opposing coaches were not fans.
Yes for coaching against but not because of his personalityTo the contrary I think most opposing coaches were really sad to see him go.
Really - you think they wanted to coach against a guy that won 2 B10 titles in 4 years?Yes for coaching against but not because of his personality
And you guys using 'Creaning' as a term for players leaving - happens everywhere.
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https://www.aseaofblue.com/2017/7/2...ting-predict-immanuel-quickley-darius-garland
This is what I've been hearing all along - and is why I think we have a great chance to land Garland. And if we get him I'd just about guarantee we get Romeo.
On the ESPN telecast last night on Garland's game last night they said it was a good possibility that Jones, Garland and another top players could be a packaged deal to Duke.https://www.aseaofblue.com/2017/7/2...ting-predict-immanuel-quickley-darius-garland
This is what I've been hearing all along - and is why I think we have a great chance to land Garland. And if we get him I'd just about guarantee we get Romeo.
Really - you think they wanted to coach against a guy that won 2 B10 titles in 4 years?
And you guys using 'Creaning' as a term for players leaving - happens everywhere.
I'm glad Archie is the coach, and think the ceiling is higher now, but Crean wasn't all bad.
Actually, fans at some schools use the term "painting" but I think this might refer to making changes in the cheerleading staff. Not sure though.Really - you think they wanted to coach against a guy that won 2 B10 titles in 4 years?
And you guys using 'Creaning' as a term for players leaving - happens everywhere.
I'm glad Archie is the coach, and think the ceiling is higher now, but Crean wasn't all bad.
Yes I am....he had basically 2 years where he achieved something at IU. Rest of his tenure he underachieved or got out coached.Really - you think they wanted to coach against a guy that won 2 B10 titles in 4 years?
And you guys using 'Creaning' as a term for players leaving - happens everywhere.
I'm glad Archie is the coach, and think the ceiling is higher now, but Crean wasn't all bad.
^Creaniac Alert!^Really - you think they wanted to coach against a guy that won 2 B10 titles in 4 years?
And you guys using 'Creaning' as a term for players leaving - happens everywhere.
I'm glad Archie is the coach, and think the ceiling is higher now, but Crean wasn't all bad.