Will the Hoosiers eventually go the hotel route for its players?
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"The best" recruits sure as hell don't need lavish accommodations. They are not driven by nonsense like that.
The worst kind need heaps of lavish bedazzlement, and you can't depend on those kind.
The worst kind need heaps of lavish bedazzlement, and you can't depend on those kind.
This is the wave of the future. IU is already behind the times. Kansas and Kentucky have these dorms. It's extremely appealing to the players: single rooms, a ratio greater than 51/49 of young co-ed girls to basketball players, private chefs, theater rooms, barbershops, etc.
IU needs to go ahead and start funding something like a 4 story dorm for this purpose. Two floors for basketball players. The other two floors for non-athlete co-ed girls. This arrangement meets NCAA requirements.
IU needs to go ahead and start funding something like a 4 story dorm for this purpose. Two floors for basketball players. The other two floors for non-athlete co-ed girls. This arrangement meets NCAA requirements.
Word is Purdue is already building a version of this. Now that Painter has finally moved past a Sweet Sixteen it should be full steam ahead with the project.
The final plans are supposed to look something like this...
So this would be a men's basketball team only dorm? If that is the case it will never fly in Bloomington. IU admin would want a dorm for every sport in order to be fair.
Sadly, prime example of why IU keeps getting in its own way over perceived superiority
Behind the times? This is still a very niche amenity, and likely to stay that way, as far as I can tell, Kentucky, Kansas, and NC state are the only ones.
Kentucky is well Kentucky
Lawrence is a dump in the middle of nowhere
NC State is the redheaded step child in North Carolina, that even with these dorms has no chance in hell of competing with Duke/UNC
And until football schools start doing this for football teams, football-centric boosters are going to derail anything that puts basketball players above football players. Mich/OSU/Bama/Clemson would install gold-plated toilets in the football locker room before building a luxury dorm for basketball
This is obviously the coed floor. Any pictures of the players' rooms ?Word is Purdue is already building a version of this. Now that Painter has finally moved past a Sweet Sixteen it should be full steam ahead with the project.
The final plans are supposed to look something like this...
I'm rather certain that the players all live in Brisco across from AH. They remodeled it a few years back and built out special rooms for the bball players with a lot of amenities not found in most of the dorms. I doubt that they'll ever build a special dorm like KY but who knows.
A new private residential complex called Evolve opened along Dunn Street across from Memorial Stadium last August that is very nice. That is where many players are staying.
Word is Purdue is already building a version of this. Now that Painter has finally moved past a Sweet Sixteen it should be full steam ahead with the project.
The final plans are supposed to look something like this...
If only we could like a post more than once....
Need to build one for both major revenue generators. You play a sport that funds all the others = upgraded housing:
Wildcat Lodge at UK:
IU player housing v
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My understanding was Briscoe as well, definitely the newest and nicest of the dorms, but a far cry from KU or UK's set up.
It's the easiest loophole in the world. Build two identical complexes, one for the BBall players and one for some regular students who essentially win the lottery.
IU will never provide luxury to its student athletes. They get the basics but nothing more. It is a cultural issue. The school simply does not take sports seriously enough to have elite facilities, even in basketball. It took until the fall of 2018 just to have a small players lounge for the men’s basketball team, and Archie had to ask for that! Football won’t have respectable accomodations until the summer of this year.
Build the special dorms or whatever but this is a horribly ----ing stupid idea. First, the University should not be in the business of making an appearance that the female coeds are at the dorm for the pleasure of athletes. Second, you are setting up a culture that leads to the kind of issues that MSU has dealt with. Finally, rumors are that some sort of girl issue helped to implode the team this year, why introduce more of that?
Izzo is in the Final Four and that guy was harboring rapists in his basement. About 10 months ago, he was under scrutiny, holding a press conference for victims, holding hands with Dantonio. They may have been wearing “Me Too” shirts.
They are done!
Finished!
They’ll be ousted and never recover!
Guess what?
A bowl game and a Final Four later and all of that has gone bye bye and both coaches are praised from sea to shining sea. The media loves Izzo!
He could set up a shrine to John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy and Manson at his house and the nation would spin it how compassionate he is for the mentally disturbed.
Separate the sports and academics. They are separate entities nowadays.
Nothing happens to programs over sexual misconduct of players. It’s always the players who will be under the heat. No coach takes a fall for that.
The fundamental purpose of a university is education, not athletics. There is no reason to take sports so seriously that education is lost in the shuffle.
I don’t think a “men’s basketball only” dorm is allowed under NCAA rules. I don’t think any “name your sport” only dorm is allowed. I do believe any such dorm has to have 50% non-athletes living in it.
Plenty of schools excel in both. If IU wants to focus more on academics it should inform the season ticket holders so they can spend their money elsewhere.
There will never be enough people giving up their season tickets to make a difference. There might be a handful of big donors who stop, but I believe most would be unwilling to give up their seats and accumulated points. I gave up my season tickets two years before Crean was fired. I couldn’t support the product anymore. That said, I have no doubt there was a long line of people on the waitlist to take my seats.
Says who? Why do you even waste your time on this sports message board?
Need to build one for both major revenue generators. You play a sport that funds all the others = upgraded housing:
Wildcat Lodge at UK: I rate this a 4 star lodge
IU player housing v
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Need to build one for both major revenue generators. You play a sport that funds all the others = upgraded housing:
Wildcat Lodge at UK:
IU player housing v
v
All the more reason for IU to have this. We AREN'T a football power. At IU bball is THE sport, just as at Kansas and UK... oh, wait, those two are on your list, aren't they? Lawrence is a dump in the middle of nowhere, and yet they still manage to get great players there don't they?
If you have read the FBI reports, it is pretty clear how Kansas gets players to come to their dump city in the middle of nowhere...
Jeez. The quantity of virtue signaling on this board is extremely high.
Do you consider academics have suffered at Duke because of the basketball program?
Say you have a seven footer that plays on a team that provides millions of dollars to the university and you tell him listen d-head you don’t get any extra consideration other than your scholarship. You live in a room designed for someone 6’ tall. You shower in a facility designed for a six footer and don’t expect an ounce of sympathy that so much of your time is devoted to practice, games, and studying. Don’t ever even think of the revenue your team generates from your team because you belong too us while you are here and for us you are the same as any 5’ 4” coed on campus.
What a crock!
What's a crock is what you wrote, and if you reread, I think even you'd have to agree. Athletes even at very small schools, do have a tremendous extra burden placed on them with their sport, but they also all have academic counselors, advisors, tutors, schedules, etc... and many extra resources available to them "normal" students don't and have for many years. No reason to fabricate a fairy land where they don't, they do and they have. The argument isn't about these basic concessions for athletes, it's about the very high end inducements like special athletic dorms/housing. Drama queen much?
I wasn't really advocating for or against IU having a basketball dorm. I was only pointing out that IU isn't losing ground and not going to lose ground in the future by a lack of one because its likely to stay rare amenity. Plus at the end of the day, its still a dorm on campus. Players are probably going to be like most students and will have a desire to live off campus after their first year.
Also, if the athletic department was planning to spend $15 million on something, a basketball dorm wouldn't even crack the top 10 things it should do with that money
You are quite full of it. Non athletic students also have other resources available to them but they choose not to pursue them. If you choose to call recognizing special living needs for athletes as underhanded inducements then nothing I can say in response. You are who you are and will ever be I guess and everstanding guard in support of your view of the very highest ideals of education against a non cooperating reality must be tiresome.
Maybe the student code of conduct has been changes and now reads-only athletes may have tutors. It is strictly forbidden for other students. Only athletes may reschedule classes or tests. It is strictly forbidden for other students no matter what the reason. I just missed it maybe.
Who said anything about punishment?
I said it was clear how they have been able to lure recruits to Lawrence, KS. Adidas pays people to go there.
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