Will non-CFP bowl games relegated to NIT status?

[82hoosier]

Any fans that remember Woodstock will remember when the NCAA increased the size of the basketball tournament from 16 teams to 32 teams in 1975. Prior to that you has to win your conference to get in the tournament. The NIT had been a great tournament up to then. IMO THE NIT hit rock bottom out when Fred Glass deemed that the NIT was unworthy of a first-round game in Assembly Hall. I am sure all the Bloomington merchants are still thanking Fred for that one.

THE CFP system reminds me of the demise of the NIT. Nobody is talking about regular bowl games any more. And for a number of crappy bowls that might not be a bad thing. The Granddaddy of them all is now a quarterfinal game which will soon lose its luster. Imagine not knowing who is playing in the Rose Bowl a week before the game?

This week all the talk is about which teams are going to get snubbed. And now teams are bummed that they have to play in a championship game this weekend. On a personal note I am hoping the Hoosiers play Georgia. And I will be rooting against the SEC in every game. Will the CFP folks be stupid enough to have teams from the same conference playing each other in the first round?

 

[Bowlmania]

THE CFP system reminds me of the demise of the NIT. Nobody is talking about regular bowl games any more. And for a number of crappy bowls that might not be a bad thing. The Granddaddy of them all is now a quarterfinal game which will soon lose its luster. Imagine not knowing who is playing in the Rose Bowl a week before the game?

Are we maybe getting a bit smug? Forgetting our long, torturous football history? In virtually any other year (except 2020 when the team was miffed about being excluded from a NY6 bowl game), we would have been thrilled with six wins and bowl eligibility. Playing in a warm-weather bowl game (e.g. Gator, Outback) was heaven on earth for most Hoosier fans, myself included. The bar was pretty low and expectations were limited.

This year, for the first time in my lifetime (except for the anomalous Covid year), we're part of the national conversation and will compete, with just 11 other teams, for the national championship. Yes, this year the Citrus Bowl would have been a disappointing consolation prize for our historically great season, and I'm grateful we dodged that bullet.

About the NIT. Yes, it's a second-tier tournament, but referencing its "demise" is inaccurate. In April of this year, the semis and finals of the NIT were played at sold-out Hinkle Fieldhouse, with a national TV audience tuned in for an exciting final between Seton Hall and Indiana State. Hinkle will host again this season.

Next, the Rose Bowl. I was there in September. The setting and climate ensure that it will never lose its luster. More importantly, it will remain in the six-bowl rotation every year for the quarters and semis, so it will continue to be a very important game.

Finally, the "crappy" bowls. Some may shut down, but most will not go away anytime soon. They're a boon for local economies, and a great destination (some of them, anyway) for northerners looking to escape winter for a few days. And, personally, I want the Citrus and Gator to still be around for years we don't make the CFP. (Cig is a great coach, but we're not going to be in this every year).

 

[Tammany Hall]

Are we maybe getting a bit smug? Forgetting our long, torturous football history? In virtually any other year (except 2020 when the team was miffed about being excluded from a NY6 bowl game), we would have been thrilled with six wins and bowl eligibility. Playing in a warm-weather bowl game (e.g. Gator, Outback) was heaven on earth for most Hoosier fans, myself included. The bar was pretty low and expectations were limited.

This year, for the first time in my lifetime (except for the anomalous Covid year), we're part of the national conversation and will compete, with just 11 other teams, for the national championship. Yes, this year the Citrus Bowl would have been a disappointing consolation prize for our historically great season, and I'm grateful we dodged that bullet.

About the NIT. Yes, it's a second-tier tournament, but referencing its "demise" is inaccurate. In April of this year, the semis and finals of the NIT were played at sold-out Hinkle Fieldhouse, with a national TV audience tuned in for an exciting final between Seton Hall and Indiana State. Hinkle will host again this season.

Next, the Rose Bowl. I was there in September. The setting and climate ensure that it will never lose its luster. More importantly, it will remain in the six-bowl rotation every year for the quarters and semis, so it will continue to be a very important game.

Finally, the "crappy" bowls. Some may shut down, but most will not go away anytime soon. They're a boon for local economies, and a great destination (some of them, anyway) for northerners looking to escape winter for a few days. And, personally, I want the Citrus and Gator to still be around for years we don't make the CFP. (Cig is a great coach, but we're not going to be in this every year).

I rarely like corporate humor, but the Pop-Tarts Bowl was funny and well done. I wouldn’t mind playing in that.

If two interesting teams are willing to play each other and the event makes money — no reason to get rid of a bowl.

 

[Kelly_32]

Any fans that remember Woodstock will remember when the NCAA increased the size of the basketball tournament from 16 teams to 32 teams in 1975. Prior to that you has to win your conference to get in the tournament. The NIT had been a great tournament up to then. IMO THE NIT hit rock bottom out when Fred Glass deemed that the NIT was unworthy of a first-round game in Assembly Hall. I am sure all the Bloomington merchants are still thanking Fred for that one.

THE CFP system reminds me of the demise of the NIT. Nobody is talking about regular bowl games any more. And for a number of crappy bowls that might not be a bad thing. The Granddaddy of them all is now a quarterfinal game which will soon lose its luster. Imagine not knowing who is playing in the Rose Bowl a week before the game?

This week all the talk is about which teams are going to get snubbed. And now teams are bummed that they have to play in a championship game this weekend. On a personal note I am hoping the Hoosiers play Georgia. And I will be rooting against the SEC in every game. Will the CFP folks be stupid enough to have teams from the same conference playing each other in the first round?

I will root for Penn State and Oregon. Never Ohio State.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

If IU does not make the CFP next year I will happily enjoy a warm S FL IU party weekend.

 

[bbh_42]

Seems like the Bowl games have really been watered down a lot in recent years. At least with the expansion of the CFP to 12 teams, you make it more interesting and should get good games. The reverse of that is the teams that aren't part of the 12, you have lots of good players that then opt out so the teams playing in those other games aren't the same as what you watched all season long.

Now the bowl games are watching the back ups and guys who never played a snap during the regular season going against each other. Not sure what the future holds but I can see an expansion of the playoff's and perhaps a second level playoff for those outside of the big conferences.

 

[kraft cheese+macaroni]

Any fans that remember Woodstock will remember when the NCAA increased the size of the basketball tournament from 16 teams to 32 teams in 1975. Prior to that you has to win your conference to get in the tournament. The NIT had been a great tournament up to then. IMO THE NIT hit rock bottom out when Fred Glass deemed that the NIT was unworthy of a first-round game in Assembly Hall. I am sure all the Bloomington merchants are still thanking Fred for that one.

THE CFP system reminds me of the demise of the NIT. Nobody is talking about regular bowl games any more. And for a number of crappy bowls that might not be a bad thing. The Granddaddy of them all is now a quarterfinal game which will soon lose its luster. Imagine not knowing who is playing in the Rose Bowl a week before the game?

This week all the talk is about which teams are going to get snubbed. And now teams are bummed that they have to play in a championship game this weekend. On a personal note I am hoping the Hoosiers play Georgia. And I will be rooting against the SEC in every game. Will the CFP folks be stupid enough to have teams from the same conference playing each other in the first round?

Not sure I could dislike or disagree with this post much more than I do on many levels.