Who's our Pat Fitzgerald?

Discussion in 'IU Football Board' started by SRIV94, Nov 10, 2018 at 7:25 PM.

  1. SRIV94

    SRIV94 Hall of Famer
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2003
    Messages:
    10,426
    Likes Received:
    1,490
    Location:
    Somewhere near Chicago
    We really need someone like him if we're ever going to contend for more than just a 6-6 at best season.

    Remember when we used to bash NW repeatedly? Good times. Still think the NW/IND game of 1994 (which kept us out of a bowl as it turns out--we finished 6-5 but no one wanted us) was a game changer for us and for NW. (They've also gone 11-3 against us since--our last win was in 2008.) NW went to the Rose Bowl the following year. We've been to three bowl games total in the ensuing 23 years.
     
    td75 likes this.
  2. Hoosiers Rising

    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2013
    Messages:
    1,469
    Likes Received:
    1,044
    Maybe we already have him. I am not giving up on Allen just yet. Big changes need to be made and we will see if he makes them. Last years class looks to be pretty darn good and this years could be the same. Good players make good coaches and if he can keep the recruiting up we can get where we want to be.
     
    kmathum likes this.
  3. IUCol

    IUCol Sophomore
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2017
    Messages:
    756
    Likes Received:
    653
    It just kills you that we won. Your true colors are showing...and they aint cream and crimson dude. You need to look in a mirror...or just put your PU tee shirt back on now...
     
  4. SRIV94

    SRIV94 Hall of Famer
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2003
    Messages:
    10,426
    Likes Received:
    1,490
    Location:
    Somewhere near Chicago
    Graduated from IU in 1988, was at Showalter in 1987 when we won the title in basketball. I make no apologies for any opinions that demand that Indiana should be as perennial a contender in basketball and football as anyone.

    Doesn't kill me at all--but it's a legit question why NW has surpassed us in football. And for one year, it looked like they were going to do that in hoops, but they've fallen back to Earth a bit and we now have a much better coach (because Glass saw that we were destined for mediocrity under Crean).

    Let's stop with the "you're not a true fan" bullcrap. You're better than this.
     
  5. turney333

    turney333 All-Big Ten
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2006
    Messages:
    3,029
    Likes Received:
    1,040
    Allen currently has the same number of wins as Fitzgerald had through his first 2 seasons.

    In Fitz’s 2nd season, he lost to Duke, which was Dukes only win of year, needed OT to beat 1-11 Minnesota, and needed a last second TD to beat Nevada, not to mentioned a win by a lackluster performance by IU
     
    82hoosier and 76-1 like this.
  6. SRIV94

    SRIV94 Hall of Famer
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2003
    Messages:
    10,426
    Likes Received:
    1,490
    Location:
    Somewhere near Chicago
    And if you remember, he beat us that year too (31-28 in Evanston). Nearly derailed our bowl hopes, but we did recover to beat PUR the following week.

    ETA: Ah, you sneaked that edit in as I was typing, grasshopper. You learned well. :)
     
  7. kmathum

    kmathum Junior
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2005
    Messages:
    1,762
    Likes Received:
    1,956
    he wouldn't look so good in the east.
     
    82hoosier, hoosier roadtrips and 76-1 like this.
  8. IUFANBB

    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2012
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    1
    I was at IU at the same time. I saw us rise from zero football wins in year 1 to beating Michigan in the freezing rain.. I love coach Fitz, and he has taken it consistently to the next level. But don't forget the great coaches in front of him - Gary Barnett, Randy Walker, etc.. These guys convinced the school that they could compete/win way before coach Fitz. We have had multiple years of really bad coaching and re-starts. Northwestern has 18 years of really good consistent coaching. That's why they are in their current position and we are in ours.. Brian
     
    82hoosier likes this.
  9. SRIV94

    SRIV94 Hall of Famer
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2003
    Messages:
    10,426
    Likes Received:
    1,490
    Location:
    Somewhere near Chicago
    Fitz was a major part originally—as one of NW’s linebackers under Barnett, he learned well.
     
  10. Indianaftw

    Indianaftw Sophomore
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2017
    Messages:
    974
    Likes Received:
    1,003
    Fitz was a major part today...6 tackles and 5 solo. Not bad for a redshirt freshman. He's learning!
     
    SRIV94 likes this.
  11. SRIV94

    SRIV94 Hall of Famer
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2003
    Messages:
    10,426
    Likes Received:
    1,490
    Location:
    Somewhere near Chicago
  12. whuesman

    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2004
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    I thought there was a subtle nugget in the post-game presser that was really telling. I can’t remember what question Tom was responding to, but he mentioned something about still learning and growing as a coach. I think it’s key to remember that he’s only 2 years in to his stint.
     
  13. SRIV94

    SRIV94 Hall of Famer
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2003
    Messages:
    10,426
    Likes Received:
    1,490
    Location:
    Somewhere near Chicago
    I dunno—he could beat us, MD and RUTG pretty perenially. He’s also had way more success vs. MSU and PSU than we have, including winning at Sparty the week after Sparty beat us in Bloomington.

    Think you’re underselling him by a lot.
     
  14. Bligedy

    Bligedy Hall of Famer
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2001
    Messages:
    16,721
    Likes Received:
    644
    Our board would have had him fired after losing at home to Akron.
     
    SRIV94, 76-1 and 82hoosier like this.
  15. SRIV94

    SRIV94 Hall of Famer
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2003
    Messages:
    10,426
    Likes Received:
    1,490
    Location:
    Somewhere near Chicago
    Certainly a point. :)
     
  16. SRIV94

    SRIV94 Hall of Famer
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2003
    Messages:
    10,426
    Likes Received:
    1,490
    Location:
    Somewhere near Chicago
    Although it is fair to say that for every headscratcher he has, he gets victories that make up for it.
     
  17. IUninethree

    IUninethree All-Big Ten
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2010
    Messages:
    3,055
    Likes Received:
    2,874
    Location:
    Indianapolis
    This was going to be my exact point as well. NW needed Barnett and Walker to pave the way for what Fitzgerald has done. Keep in mind that Barnett had the two big years (9 & 10 wins) in the middle of his six year tenure bookended by seasons of 2, 3, or 5 wins. Walker got them back to 8 wins in his second year, but followed it up with 4 win and 3 win seasons before getting to three straight 6+ win years. Fitz has built on that and a few reset years where he's sub-500 in there. The last four years, though, have been amazing compared to what NW once was.

    I know it's painful, but I think IU has to play the long game and trust the process to replicate what NW has done.
     

Share This Page